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| Ollfardh |
Posted on 23-05-2019 07:48
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I want a 20 year old winning Paris-Roubaix, but I do feel that's a bit unrealistic. It's up to oughtsyou how good our riders are going to be, so I echo Ripley thoughts. But I do feel that the development rate is a bit slow if they should become stars one day. Or maybe it dependes on rider type, as I see climbers are further ahead compared to classics riders.
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
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| Croatia14 |
Posted on 23-05-2019 08:10
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Ripley wrote:
I don't know about more points, but again I felt I could do with a bit more flexibility. I would have spent more on ACC if I could. But I'm fine if our riders never become superstars.
I absolutely agree...there is no chance of creating hybrids, which makes it impossible to do be creative in terms of development - maybe give a certain amount of primary, secondary and tertiary stats or something like this in the next season
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| hillis91 |
Posted on 23-05-2019 12:38
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Croatia14 wrote:
Ripley wrote:
I don't know about more points, but again I felt I could do with a bit more flexibility. I would have spent more on ACC if I could. But I'm fine if our riders never become superstars.
I absolutely agree...there is no chance of creating hybrids, which makes it impossible to do be creative in terms of development - maybe give a certain amount of primary, secondary and tertiary stats or something like this in the next season
+1
Also, i'll get my development done by tonight 
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| Tamijo |
Posted on 23-05-2019 13:22
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Croatia14 wrote:
Ripley wrote:
I don't know about more points, but again I felt I could do with a bit more flexibility. I would have spent more on ACC if I could. But I'm fine if our riders never become superstars.
I absolutely agree...there is no chance of creating hybrids, which makes it impossible to do be creative in terms of development - maybe give a certain amount of primary, secondary and tertiary stats or something like this in the next season
+ Something like that
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| Shonak |
Posted on 23-05-2019 13:53
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Croatia14 wrote:
Ripley wrote:
I don't know about more points, but again I felt I could do with a bit more flexibility. I would have spent more on ACC if I could. But I'm fine if our riders never become superstars.
I absolutely agree...there is no chance of creating hybrids, which makes it impossible to do be creative in terms of development - maybe give a certain amount of primary, secondary and tertiary stats or something like this in the next season
Think so too, since there are so few stats all of it flows into main stats, which is going to be dull in the long run imo
"It’s a little bit scary when Contador attacks." - Tommy V
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| FreitasPCM |
Posted on 23-05-2019 14:17
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Agree with all of the above.  I wanted to improve more stats in a balanced way, but not forgetting to develop the main abilities of my rider. I think next season we could discuss how to stretch points available to distribute the stats.
I know these cases are not frequent, but at the age of 20, guys like Bernal or Pogacar, were, and are, amongst the older pros on the upper level of GC and stages. So it wouldn’t be so unrealistic to have our riders fighting for wins, maybe not that much, depending on our good sense. |
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| Shonak |
Posted on 23-05-2019 16:32
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Honestly, an issue is just that our pros do jack shit nothing in races so there is nothing to write about and no one to cheer on. Them not being favourites for another 4 seaosns i completely fine but as soon as they are competitive, following the races will be much more entertaining.
"It’s a little bit scary when Contador attacks." - Tommy V
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Posted on 21-11-2024 20:26
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| AbhishekLFC |
Posted on 24-05-2019 06:03
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Thanks for all the feedback guys
Slowness of development is a pertinent issue especially with non climbers and punchers, given the way I've designed the progression. I sort of modeled it on those examples of Bernal and Pogacar who seem to be challenging at the top at a much younger age than classics specialists. But then that is not fair on those who chose the latter specializations.
What I'm also looking at, for the moment, is giving everyone 2 more GP at the start of next season, thereby shifting the GP range upward from 7-12 to 9-14, and then perhaps divide them so as to have quotas for primary, secondary and tertiary stats, as has been suggested.
Would be open to suggestions going ahead.
Update on the stat updates, have received 10 PMs so far. Keep them coming. The race selection file will also be made available soon.
Sign-ups will close on 31st May.
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| Ripley |
Posted on 24-05-2019 07:36
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It was clear to me from the start that we'd be in it for the long haul and wouldn't see much of our riders at first. And to me that's better than starting with a Bernal skillset, it'd be boring to be too good too soon. Maybe we should have started with 24, 25 year olds, a la Roglic or Michael Woods. But I can wait for Alunderis to get there, as long as Abhishek is happy to run the game even if we can't give too much feedback yet.
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| jandal7 |
Posted on 24-05-2019 08:53
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I’ve tested the current system and they will grow into total stars still. Agree on points about limits of hybrid riders and more flexibility to allow creativity. But I am not complaining about progression rates, if you keep up the pace of the back half of last year we’ll be seeing our riders very soon and then we can enjoy a little more detail Thanks Abhi, will get this done soon!
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| Tamijo |
Posted on 26-05-2019 16:50
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Im I currect to asume that we wait for sign-up to close, before we start calender pick and rider development ?
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| AbhishekLFC |
Posted on 27-05-2019 05:43
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Tamijo wrote:
Im I currect to asume that we wait for sign-up to close, before we start calender pick and rider development ?
No need to wait till the sign-ups close. Rider development file is already available here. Please send in your rider's development.
Will share the calendar selection sheet very soon.
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| Tamijo |
Posted on 27-05-2019 07:22
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Ohh sorry - did already sent it just forgot
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| AbhishekLFC |
Posted on 28-05-2019 11:31
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Still waiting for Career Progression PMs for 7 riders. Please send them in. No name and shame yet
The calendar selection file will be shared later today.
Sign-ups close this Friday, 31st May.
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| AbhishekLFC |
Posted on 28-05-2019 16:17
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It is now time to share the Race Selection file. This is the last piece of input you need to give for your riders to be ready for the 2018 season.
Link: https://www.dropb....xlsx?dl=0
- Download the file from the above location.
- Enter your rider's ID in cell I2 in 'Calendar' sheet. All cells marked #N/A will be populated. Please check if the populated details are correct. All riders are less than 24 years old and should have 60 RDs available.
- You can look up your rider's ID in 'Custom Riders DB' sheet. The stats in this sheet do not have the development included.
- Select the number of training blocks you want your rider to attend and enter a value between 1 and 3 in cell M2 (this is not mandatory). Each training block costs 5 RDs but gives guaranteed points as specified in the Points file. A maximum of 15 RDs can be spent on training.
- Clashing races are marked with letters 'A' through 'I' in column E. The races which clash with each other have the same letter against them.
- Enter '1' in cells F2-F45 for the races you want to participate in.
- Cell I10 will tell you the number of RDs you have remaining. It will turn red if you enter more races than your RDs allow. It has to be zero or a positive number.
- Once you are satisfied, copy cells C2-F45 and send them to me in a table via PM. Also send me the value in cell M2 (number of training blocks).
As always, please feel free to ask in case of doubts or clarifications either here or via PM.
No deadlines for this at the moment, but the earlier I get them, the earlier I can start making startlists 
Edited by AbhishekLFC on 29-05-2019 16:01
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| Mulopeza |
Posted on 28-05-2019 19:51
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Hey! It's pretty close to the deadline, but I would still like to start my Road To Glory.
Here's the info on my rider:
• Name: Andés Munoz Lopez
• Nationality:  Spanish
• Specialization: Stage Racer
• Favourite Team: Movistar Team
• Career Goal: Grand tour (Gira/TDF/Vuelta) stage win
• Height: 1,65 m (= 5 foot 5)
• Weight: 59 kg (= 130lbs)
Andés Munoz Lopez, nicknamed Mulopeza, is a young upcoming spanish talent. He has always been a huge fan of the cycling sport, mainly following riders who hail from his home area Basque Country. His greatest idols include legendary Basque riders such as Iban Mayo, Haimar Zubeldia, but also basque riders who are still active such as Mikel Landa.
As a kid, his dream has always been winning La Vuelta Ciclista a España. The biggest race in his home country, and one of the grand tours. Now that he's ready to make the move into pro cycling, his old dream has been pushed to the back of his mind. To make it there, he realises it's not enough to be a dreamer. You have to be a realist... a winner... The first step is to prove he is worthy of becoming a pro cyclist. A first podium in a pro race. A first victory. And his goal: a victory in a Grand Tour stage. Who knows what the future holds for this young talent.
(I initially put "Climber" as specialty but changed it to Stage Racer, assuming you hadn't seen this yet. If you already started adding him as a Climber that's fine too)
Edited by Mulopeza on 28-05-2019 20:44
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| Supernutz |
Posted on 29-05-2019 03:16
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Stat progression sent.
Race schedule sent.
Looking forward to the future pain of trying to get into breakaways next season! |
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| AbhishekLFC |
Posted on 29-05-2019 05:42
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@Mulopeza: Rider approved. Have taken him as stage racer.
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| jaxika |
Posted on 29-05-2019 07:16
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Tirreno and PN not clashing? |
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| AbhishekLFC |
Posted on 29-05-2019 07:18
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Yes they're clashing. Sorry for missing that. Please consider them clashing for the selection.
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