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edit sponsor satisfaction
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| sobrano |
Posted on 25-04-2019 09:16
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is there a way to edit sponsro satisfaction? |
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| Ripley |
Posted on 26-04-2019 07:06
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Hmm, I don't know if you can edit it directly. It should be possible to change it indirectly, experiment a bit.
For example, if you sponsor is unhappy with the amount of riders from a certain country, you can edit the last column in dyn_sponsor_regions which I believe is a percentage figure (so 50 means the sponsor wants 50% of the riders to have that nationality). I remember changing that and seeing a positive effect on the sponsor satisfaction immediately. Or try and lower the importance value, it goes from 1 to 3.
You could possibly cheat outright by changing the achieved column of dyn_objectif. Maybe increase the importance of noteworthy results you achieved. In the savegame I'm looking at I won the WC RR and that was a +++ noteworthy result, the value_f_score in dyn_sponsor_results is 10.625.
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| sobrano |
Posted on 28-04-2019 08:03
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Ripley wrote:
Hmm, I don't know if you can edit it directly. It should be possible to change it indirectly, experiment a bit.
For example, if you sponsor is unhappy with the amount of riders from a certain country, you can edit the last column in dyn_sponsor_regions which I believe is a percentage figure (so 50 means the sponsor wants 50% of the riders to have that nationality). I remember changing that and seeing a positive effect on the sponsor satisfaction immediately. Or try and lower the importance value, it goes from 1 to 3.
You could possibly cheat outright by changing the achieved column of dyn_objectif. Maybe increase the importance of noteworthy results you achieved. In the savegame I'm looking at I won the WC RR and that was a +++ noteworthy result, the value_f_score in dyn_sponsor_results is 10.625.
ty for reply, I tried to improve the importance of a race that I won and I got something as 20 ++++++++++++... butthe sponsor satisfaction dosent move...
btw I need this modification not for cheating but for do a test on carrer around sponsors.
I didnt understand if I can improve my starting little team with my starting litte sponsor up to world tour...without change sponsor during the carrer. I dont know if i am capped by the sponsor fame who never will increase the budget over a certain limit, even if i achieve its objectives every year
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| Ripley |
Posted on 28-04-2019 08:26
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I never wanted to accuse you of cheating, I'm sure you have a good reason. So it's that other question you asked and nobody replied to?
I don't know the answer to that for sure, but unless something has changed in PCM 18, I don't think the sponsor fame makes a difference and you can keep him as long as you want. Or rather, as long as the sponsor wants to stay a sponsor, that's the value_i_year_max in dyn_sponsor.
Of course, other sponsors can offer you higher budgets when the negotiation period comes, but I'd say as long as you keep the sponsor happy he'll continue to increase your budget. But why don't you just change your sponsor fame with the editor to be sure? Your results help brand recognition, surely.
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| sobrano |
Posted on 28-04-2019 13:54
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ty Ripley, in my pcm experience the fame never works before. But i was not sure about this version...I didnt change the fame to mythique because i dont want risk to get an advantage by this, I like start from the bottom (the wrost continenal team and extreme difficulty) and improve my team little by little with good results.
In the sponsor page there is a range called max budget or something like this, my team have a 56k of budget and 100-120k as maximum range. I can improve my team still a lot but i dont know what happen when i ll reach 120k...
Usually I change the value_i_year_max to 2099 for all sponsor in the game. a lot of sponsor goes after about 10 years, it will be interesting to know if someone did a long carrer (i.e. 20 years) in order to know what happen on pcm after 20 years of carrer  |
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| sobrano |
Posted on 11-05-2019 22:20
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I can answer by myself to my question. Maybe that can be usefull for someone.
If u open the table GAM_user_data in your savegame there are 3 values:
EFFECTIF, RESULTS and RACE_PARTICIPATION, the combination of these numbers do the sponsor satisfation. The most important value is the RESULTS it affect much more than others the satisfation bar.
There is just a little thing that I didnt appreciate. It seems all the results after 31 july dosent affects the sponsor budget for the next year. I got full satisfation in 31 july and I signed for the next year sponsor budget. In octobre of the same year Itried to edit the sponsor satisfaction in order to drop it down to an unsatisfaied value (something around orange color part of the bar sponsor satisfation bar). At the start of the next year the budget was that i signed in july so it seems the game doesent take accont of the results between 31 july and 31 decembre.
I am a bit frustrated for that because after 31 july there are a lot of imprtant races as vuelta de espana and the september and october classics races...
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| Ripley |
Posted on 12-05-2019 08:39
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Probably needs further investigation. I'm pretty sure I've ended up with a higher budget than was estimated in July when I did the signings, thanks to good results later in the season. But I can't remember when that was, usually I find it no trouble to keep the sponsor happy all year rounds.
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| sobrano |
Posted on 13-05-2019 17:29
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Ripley wrote:
Probably needs further investigation. I'm pretty sure I've ended up with a higher budget than was estimated in July when I did the signings, thanks to good results later in the season. But I can't remember when that was, usually I find it no trouble to keep the sponsor happy all year rounds.
I can do some more investigation, could you get the savegame somewhere? try to check the weekly save directory. The game save your game every week so you should be able to get back that season you are thinking about. with the savegame file we can verify that |
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| Ripley |
Posted on 14-05-2019 07:23
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Can't promise it, I have many careers to look through. Maybe what you could do is edit one of your weekly saves from the end of June and reduce the satisfaction and see what the estimate is then and how it matches up with how much you actually got at the end of the season.
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| sobrano |
Posted on 14-05-2019 17:24
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Ripley wrote:
edit one of your weekly saves from the end of June and reduce the satisfaction and see what the estimate is then and how it matches up with how much you actually got at the end of the season.
is it not the same than I already did?
@confused... |
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| Ripley |
Posted on 14-05-2019 18:34
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You did the opposite, right? You could add to your proof by reversing it.
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