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AiZaK
Which stats will be VDP in the next update??
 
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quadsas
What was changed for Joker? I don't see any stat changes tbf
deez
 
Vizbragz
quadsas wrote:
What was changed for Joker? I don't see any stat changes tbf


The new stats only concern three riders (Arnes, Klevjer and Waerenskjold) because they were already adapted for the others.
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purepasd
Sivakov has been riding great as a domestique so far in the spring, but crowned it today with a well deserved victory in Tour of the Alps. Even though there was a lot of tactic involved (Nibali, Majka and maybe Tao and Bilbao seemed stronger, but all used their respective lieutenants to attack), he did look super strong, winning ahead of Hirt and riders such as Masnada and Cattaneo. I would grant him 75 MO, 75 HI, 70 FL, 71 RES with a big potential to improve well. Smile
 
Vizbragz
Continental presentation


Me and Adryy8 have the responsability of the Continental stats. This year's database is a great opportunity to get a complete and realistic Continental field. The work has begun last year with about 50 teams updated for the Lite Pack according to the latest results. In 2019, we want to expand this project to all the teams listed on the UCI website.

We have to deal with more than 150 teams at the same time and started a year ago with an outdated Continental database. This is obviously harder to manage than a World Tour/Pro Continental field, it's why the work is still in progress and some teams may look like nobody checked them yet.

It's difficult to know all the Continental teams well and you can easily help on this point. If you are following the teams from a specific country, region or whatever, your knowledge can help us a lot. Don't hesitate to contribute by sending your suggestions here or via private messages, every post will be appreciated.

We are working with a sheet linked in the first post. Even if you can find the World Tour and Pro Continental riders here, they are outdated and hidden by a filter. To avoid some confusions, don't use this sheet to purpose notes for them, you would waste your time.

Here is a summary :

Spoiler
text : not updated yet
text : updated but the team isn't available in the db yet
text : updated or going to be updated for U3

BAI
Sovac
Virgen de Fatima
San Juan
Pocito
Mardan
Rawson
BridgeLane
PR Sunshine Coast
St George
Drapac
Oliver's RF
Futuro
Vorarlberg
Tirol
Felbermayr
Hrinkow
Maloja
Niederösterreich
Tarteletto
Telenet
Cibel
Pauwels
Wallonie Devo
Marlux
|BAHRAIN| VIB
Minsk
Deprisa
Start
Sao Francisco Saude
|BRUNEI| Brunei
Floyd
DCBank
Probaclac
Taiyuan
Ningxia
Hengxiang
Shenzhen
Mitchelton Devo
Qinghai
Gansu
Giant
Jilun
Kunbao
Medellin
Coldeportes Strongman
Coldeportes Zenu
EPM
Orgullo Paisa
GW
Betplay
Meridiana
Elkov
Sparta Praha
Pardus
BHS
Waoo
Coloquick
|DOMINICAN REPUBLIC| Inteja
Ecuador
Kometa
Euskadi
FDJ Devo
Auber
Roubaix
Canyon
Madison
Wiggins
SwiftCarbon
Vitus
Ribble
|GUINEA-BISSAU| Guerciotti
Bike Aid
Sunweb Devo
Heizomat
Lotto KH
Sauerland
Herrmann
LKT
P&S
Dauner
HKSI
X Speed
Pannon
KFC
PGN
Customs
Sepahan
Fengsheng
Omidnia
EvoPro
Colpack
Sangemini
Dimension Data Devo
D'Amico
Beltramitsa
Friuli
Biesse
Iseo
Interpro
UKYO
Kinan
Matrix
Aisan
Shimano
Utsunomiya
Bridgestone
Nasu Blasen
Vino
Astana City
Apple
Geumsan
KSPO
LX
Seoul
Uijeongbu
Gapyeong
Korail
Amore
Leopard
Differdange
Terengannu
Sapura
Canel's
SEG
Monkey Town
Alecto
BEAT
Metec
Vlasman
Coop
Uno X
Joker
Massi
7 Eleven
Go for Gold
Wibatech
CCC Devo
Hurom
Voster
Efapel
Sporting
Aviludo
Radio Popular
Vito
LA Aluminios
Miranda
Oliveirense
Giotti Victoria
Novak
Lokosphinx
Benediction
Adria
Ljubljana
IAM
Swiss RA
Akros
Dukla
Memil
Thailand
Salcano
Kyiv
Ferei
Lviv
Illuminate
Elevate
Aevolo
Arapahoe
303
Skyline
Wildlife
ProTouch
TEG

Edited by Vizbragz on 27-04-2019 21:01
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adryy8
Hi everyone, Adryy8 here helping Vizbragz with all the small teams no one cares about! We hope to have all of the teams rated by the end of June, if we are going well we may even have the devo teams that aren't CT like LottoU23, Lizarte or Chambery. I mostly do the asian teams with some europeans, usually the worst teams!
 
gobbi76
Hi guys
I make the first stage in single mode player of the Tour of des Alpes 2018 in difficult mode and to much riders arrived in uphill stage after 25 km in climbing ,around 60 all in group nobody fighiting for win the stage.i won on the sprint with Mathieu Van der Poel.Everithing is normal of IA?
 
Ollfardh
Bjorg Lambrecht also with a great Ardennes, 6th in AGR and slightly boxed in in the sprint, today 4th after working for Wellens. Looking forward to what he can do on sunday.
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
 
gobbi76
Hi guys
today i make 3 times the first stage of Tour des Alpes 2018 ,i won every time and i set the hard level difficult on 1.1 parameter to suggested LuckyLukas .So 3 times won with Mathieu Van Der Poel ,from IA nobody fought for win the stage and they came to the sprint ,and it's not a joke,between 70 and 90 riders and there was to finish in climb more then 25 km.it's simply unrealRolling Eyes
 
AiZaK
gobbi76 wrote:
Hi guys
today i make 3 times the first stage of Tour des Alpes 2018 ,i won every time and i set the hard level difficult on 1.1 parameter to suggested LuckyLukas .So 3 times won with Mathieu Van Der Poel ,from IA nobody fought for win the stage and they came to the sprint ,and it's not a joke,between 70 and 90 riders and there was to finish in climb more then 25 km.it's simply unrealRolling Eyes


Van der Poel is OP Wink
 
quadsas
Vizbragz wrote:
quadsas wrote:
What was changed for Joker? I don't see any stat changes tbf


The new stats only concern three riders (Arnes, Klevjer and Waerenskjold) because they were already adapted for the others.


So you nerfed Waerenskjold...you will regret disrespecting the next superstar
deez
 
Tafiolmo
Here are the final cob stats as agreed by the DB Team and if anybody feels strongly against any of the stats now is a good time to comment because after the LBL (probably a week or so) the next update will be coming out:

Terpstra Flat 80 Cob 80 STA 80 RES 80 Hill 73
GVA Flat 79 Cob 80 STA 79 RES 79 Hill 75
Vanmarcke Flat 79 Cob 80 STA 79 RES 78 Hill 72
Sagan Flat 80 Cob 79 STA 78 RES 79 Hill 74
Naesen Flat 79 Cob 79 STA 80 RES 79 Hill 73
Stybar Flat 78 Cob 80 STA 78 RES 78 Hill 75
Politt Flat 80 Cob 78 STA 79 RES 79 Hill 71
Gilbert Flat 78 Cob 79 STA 80 RES 79 Hill 77/76
Benoot Flat 78 Cob 78 STA 77 RES 78 Hill 76
Lampaert Flat 78 Cob 79 STA 78 RES 79 Hill 72
Van Aert Flat 76 Cob 79 STA 77 RES 79 Hill 75
Langeveld Flat 77 Cob 78 STA 77 RES 77 Hill 72
Bettiol Flat 76 Cob 78 STA 78 RES 77 Hill 76
Stuyven Flat 79 Cob 77 STA 77 RES 78 Hill 73
Kristoff Flat 78 Cob 78 STA 80 RES 79 Hill 71
VDP Flat 78 Cob 78 STA 77 RES 78 Hill 77
Senechal Flat 78 Cob 77 STA 76 RES 77 Hill 70
Teunisson Flat 77 Cob 78 STA 78 RES 77 Hill 70
Keukeleire Flat 78 Cob 77 STA 76 RES 76 Hill 72
Van Baarle Flat 77 Cob 77 STA 76 RES 77 Hill 73
Degenkolb Flat 77 Cob 77 STA 78 RES 77 Hill 70
Trentin Flat 79 Cob 76 STA 77 RES 77 Hill 74
Jungels Flat 79 Cob 75 STA 78 RES 79 Hill 77
Asgreen Flat 76 Cob 75 STA 76 Res 77 Hill 73

As for VDP he also of course has high sprint and acc stats as well which will really help.
Edited by Tafiolmo on 25-04-2019 09:08
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Tafiolmo
Purespad- Sivakov has been raised another stat in mtn and hill but is that a typo by you though, in regard to his flat and res as they are lower than what we have him? Worth bearing in mind that nearly all Sky riders like Sivakov should have good res as that seems a major factor of Sky riders for the Sky train etc.

Gobbi- That's poor game AI and nothing too much can be done about this, sometimes though the stats can be a problem or as is sometimes the case the way the stage has been constructed especially if its a custom. created stage.

Olifardh- Lotto have three very different hill leaders in Wellens, Vanendert and now Lambrecht. At the moment but pending of course LBL we have Vanendert on 81 hill, and Wellens and Lambrecht on 79 but these will have to be sorted. Wellens is the best in terms of overall stats but is not that impressive in the Ardennes classics, Vanendert is a strongman hill climber with a high stat but with lower mtn with no real acc and Lambrecht is your more typical Ardennes climber but is just emerging.

We'll now be concentrating on the Ardennes classics and combining the results from both FW and LBL which is always more complex to do than the cobbled stats because here it's a combo hill, mtn, acc, res and sta and getting the right balance between them.
We'll now be concentrating on
Edited by Tafiolmo on 25-04-2019 09:18
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oreclub
Tafiolmo wrote:
Purespad- Sivakov has been raised another stat in mtn and hill but is that a typo by you though, in regard to his flat and res as they are lower than what we have him? Worth bearing in mind that nearly all Sky riders like Sivakov should have good res as that seems a major factor of Sky riders for the Sky train etc.

Gobbi- That's poor game AI and nothing too much can be done about this, sometimes though the stats can be a problem or as is sometimes the case the way the stage has been constructed especially if its a custom. created stage.

Olifardh- Lotto have three very different hill leaders in Wellens, Vanendert and now Lambrecht. At the moment but pending of course LBL we have Vanendert on 81 hill, and Wellens and Lambrecht on 79 but these will have to be sorted. Wellens is the best in terms of overall stats but is not that impressive in the Ardennes classics, Vanendert is a strongman hill climber with a high stat but with lower mtn with no real acc and Lambrecht is your more typical Ardennes climber but is just emerging.

We'll now be concentrating on the Ardennes classics and combining the results from both FW and LBL which is always more complex to do than the cobbled stats because here it's a combo hill, mtn, acc, res and sta and getting the right balance between them.
We'll now be concentrating on

Thanks for your work!
 
Vizbragz
quadsas wrote:
Vizbragz wrote:
quadsas wrote:
What was changed for Joker? I don't see any stat changes tbf


The new stats only concern three riders (Arnes, Klevjer and Waerenskjold) because they were already adapted for the others.


So you nerfed Waerenskjold...you will regret disrespecting the next superstar


I completely understand your point, it's always difficult to give accurate stats to the Juniors because they don't ride with a pro peloton and the adaptation can be difficult sometimes. Otherwise, he has a potential 6 and I updated his notes thanks to his good Tour du Loir-et-Cher.
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gobbi76
hi
i suggest to will try to test again in the same stage first one of Tour of the Alpes 2018,i will unistall and instal the game again and try to test the same difficut like extreme with 1.2 parameter difficult variabile on Lacky software database and i will update you
 
Croatia14
gobbi76 wrote:
hi
i suggest to will try to test again in the same stage first one of Tour of the Alpes 2018,i will unistall and instal the game again and try to test the same difficut like extreme with 1.2 parameter difficult variabile on Lacky software database and i will update you


Please put this stuff not in this but in the questions & support thread. This is meant to be solely a stats discussion and not about bugs & AI failure.
 
jpgm97
Doesn't Edgar Pinto deserve a upgrade. I mean, he was fifth in Turkey. Ok the field wans't the best, but still he manage to perform better than riders with higher stats. Also João Rodrigues deserves a mention. He should have been the leader in Turkey, but he got sick. He is a good climber, wich proof is his performance in Alto de Malhão in Algarve, and a decent time triallist.
 
Arberg
Hill:
82: Fuglsang, Alaphilipp
80: Valvede, Ulissi, Martin, van der Poel
Edited by Arberg on 29-04-2019 06:52
 
AiZaK
Guys I think Viviani must be 81. He and Groenewegen are the best sprinters currently in the world.

And for the Hills:
Alaphilippe 83
Valverde 82
Fuglsang 81
Woods 80
Dan Martin 80
 
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