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PCM.daily Stat Discussion
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| Ollfardh |
Posted on 07-02-2019 13:29
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baseballlover312 wrote:
Ollfardh wrote:
Aru seems a bit weak here, last year sure wasn't his thing, but as a former GT winner I think he deserves better. 2015 isn't that long ago. In 2017 I think he was also doing quite well in Le Tour before he got sick. Putting him behind guys like Majka and Pozzovivo seems a bit harsh.
I'd also put Dennis on par with Dumoulin in TT stat. Last year, Dennis defeated Dumoulin in every TT except the Giro prologue which he lost by 2 seconds.
To be fair, doesn't the Daily DB only take into account the last two years too? And Pozzo has consistently been at the front of Giro GC.
I mean, in reality, 2015 was pretty long ago. That's like if we judged Ivan Basso in 2014 by his 2010 Giro win.
Yes and no, Basso was aging badly, Aru is (or should be) still in his prime.
Not sure about how many years are still taken into account, but if you look at for example Tony Martin's TT stat, that has to be well over two years 
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
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| Tafiolmo |
Posted on 07-02-2019 20:35
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I think Aru is statted accurately as his last good performance was in Le Tour in 2017 and before and after he has been poor in relation to the other GT contenders. His GT victory is really too far back to be considered and as Baseballover stated we really do not go back more than 2 years in most instances. The problem with Aru is that he is so inconsistent and normally more poor than good especially last season. He in fact rode like a 78 climber that often lost contact with the favs when things got serious. In fact I remember asking on here suggestions on how to stat Aru as he is that hard and his stats are mostly the suggestions that were made here.
Dennis has more of a case against Dumoulin as to who should be the best TT rider and they are 1 point different BUT Dennis is superior by 4 points on pro which is an important difference. I haven't tested so far with this DB how they fair against each other yet but if anybody has done a long flat TT with both would be good to know.
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| valaorome |
Posted on 11-02-2019 09:55
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Hi,
will we have a new stat version nextly?
Thanks
Regards
Sal a entrenar cuando te apetezca, y si quieres mejorar hazlo cuando no te apetezca.
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| Tafiolmo |
Posted on 11-02-2019 16:48
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A new update is about to come out fixing some previous errors and adding some new teams and more updated PCT and CT stats mostly.
The next update after this will probably come out after MSR where we will have had a good look at how the WT is going in 2019.
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| Captain CoinCoin |
Posted on 16-02-2019 09:45
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Geoffrey Bouchard misses his height and weight. According to PCS, he is 1.77m / 64 kgs |
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| Ad Bot |
Posted on 22-11-2024 18:57
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| Croatia14 |
Posted on 16-02-2019 11:07
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implemented and will be in the next update, thanks for the hint 
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| Agent David |
Posted on 25-03-2019 11:41
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I hope that I don't write it to wrong thread.
I found your 2019 DB really good. Great job with it. But I noticed that you have czech teams AC Sparta Praha and TUFO Pardus Prostějov (it has changed name) very underrated, especially Tomáš Kalojíros has very low stats (sprint, acceleration, hill...). In China and Iran he had very good results with Stöhr brothers and Jan Ryba, here it is: https://www.procy...?id=169910
TUFO Pardus had also good results, especially with Tomáš Bárta in sprints in road cycling and with Wojciech Pszczolarski, Daniel Babor and Luděk Lichnovský in track cycling. I don't know if you count track cycling into stat matrix but Pszczolarski is one of the best.
Already in your 2018 LP I added these two and other two czech teams (Dukla Praha and CK Příbram) into game with my stats. Now I updated their roster and stats and I want to post you these. I'm maybe overrating their stats (I'm from Czech Republic  ) and I'm definitely overrating their potential  . But I'd like you to look at it and maybe I'll help you somehow.
Here it is: https://docs.goog...sp=sharing
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My Google document about stats of Czech riders
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| oreclub |
Posted on 26-03-2019 11:09
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I can't see the whole document...  |
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| Agent David |
Posted on 26-03-2019 15:42
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Sorry, wrong link :
https://docs.goog...edit#gid=0
The stats are based on ProCyclingStats results.
Agent David's Jerseys
My Google document about stats of Czech riders
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| Vizbragz |
Posted on 26-03-2019 21:53
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The work on CT is currently in progress, in our 2019 sheet, Elkov is updated, Sparta Praha and Pardus not yet.
I've found some stats for Pardus from 2018 and adapted them a bit with the new riders. It should match with your ideas more than the initial stuff. I'll focus on Sparta Praha later this week.
Indeed, you overrated the riders. I tried to scale with the teams from Central Europe we've already made (Elkov, Wibatech, Tirol, etc.). I've some doubts like Babor's potential, he may deserve a potential 4 but his first pro year wasn't that promising.
For the other teams you've sent, we may add the best of their riders in our free agents once we'll have finished to update the CT teams. We should be at 50% right now or something like that.
Don't hesitate to suggest some changes with these new notes. About the track, Adryy8 and me (both working on CT) don't focus on it because it's hard to make the link between track (they can be good sprinters or TTists but not systematically) and road.
By the way, your contributions are really appreciated. For CT especially, it's a good thing to count on national fans. If you want to help CT department, we'll be glad to hear your suggestions for Czech Republic/Central Europe in order to increase the quality of our stats.
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| Agent David |
Posted on 27-03-2019 18:24
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Hello,
I'm glad that you found my contributions helpful and I think that these stats, that you posted, are very good. I made these riders and their stats myself for PCMDaily 2018 LP for better enjoyment of the game and I adapted them a little to level of other teams.
I made stats for other free czech riders, so I can contribute them too. And I made stats for Elkov, too, but they're very similar to yours.
Edited by Agent David on 27-03-2019 18:29
Agent David's Jerseys
My Google document about stats of Czech riders
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| oreclub |
Posted on 28-03-2019 08:44
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I was talking about the main document, but I'm glad to help |
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| Vizbragz |
Posted on 28-03-2019 14:02
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oreclub wrote:
I was talking about the main document, but I'm glad to help
Well, the document linked in the first page isn't updated anymore. I don't know if I can share the new sheet however.
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| oreclub |
Posted on 28-03-2019 17:19
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Vizbragz wrote:
oreclub wrote:
I was talking about the main document, but I'm glad to help
Well, the document linked in the first page isn't updated anymore. I don't know if I can share the new sheet however.
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| Agent David |
Posted on 29-03-2019 19:14
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I looked at your stats once more, and I think Dolníček should have TTR 60/61, PRL 63 and SPR 60/61, ACC 61, I overrated his sprint skills. By the way, I get this track "problem", it's hard to implement these stats to your matrix.
I'm uploading new (live) stats time by time into my document, plus I'll add more riders.
Agent David's Jerseys
My Google document about stats of Czech riders
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| Vizbragz |
Posted on 07-04-2019 13:11
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Agent David wrote:
I looked at your stats once more, and I think Dolníček should have TTR 60/61, PRL 63 and SPR 60/61, ACC 61, I overrated his sprint skills. By the way, I get this track "problem", it's hard to implement these stats to your matrix.
I'm uploading new (live) stats time by time into my document, plus I'll add more riders.
It's not a problem, the differences between 60/61/62 are very small and subjective ingame. I like to put 61/62 instead of 60 for a rider who demonstrated a very little thing in a discipline but the rider's shape will be more decisive than a one point difference.
I've updated AC Sparta Praha a few days ago and the teams are available in Update 2. It's a bit difficult to make a proper hierarchy between the sprinters, I hope to see them back in China in order to improve this.
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| jeremyrobin |
Posted on 09-04-2019 18:48
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I added the maximum weight and size to the riders of the world tour teams who did not have information in these columns.
https://www.sendbo...elease.cdb |
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| marcoplv95 |
Posted on 10-04-2019 12:58
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Where are the stats in the DB? In "effectifs" i see only 9 riders.
Edit: I had to create a new filter to see every riders, they were hidden
Edited by marcoplv95 on 10-04-2019 15:12
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| marcoplv95 |
Posted on 10-04-2019 20:50
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Stagiare
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In this database R.Evenepoel is 168cm tall, wikipedia in my language says 170cm:
https://it.wikipe..._Evenepoel |
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| Kompakt |
Posted on 13-04-2019 14:28
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Junior Rider
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Will the updated database be uploaded to the Google Document? |
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