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General Race Results/Discussion 2019
Kiserlovski01
Julian Alaphilippe off to a great start in Argentina, as he kicked away on the final climb with Benoot and Quintana failing to go with him.

Vuelta a San Juan Internacional (2.1)
Stage 2/6, 132.5 kms
1Julian AlaphilippeDeceunick - Quick StepWON
2Simone ConsonniUAE-Team Emiratess.t.
3Peter SaganBORA - hansgrohes.t.
4Jens KeukeleireLotto Soudals.t.
5Daniel ZamoraAgrupacion Virgen de Fatimas.t.
6Carlos BarberoMovistar Teams.t.
7Richard CarapazMovistar Teams.t.
8German Nicolás TivaniAgrupacion Virgen de Fatimas.t.
9Francesco GavazziAndroni Giocattoli - Sidermecs.t.
10Hideto NakaneNippo Vini Fantini Faizanès.t.

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sutty68
Looks like Quick Step are at it again Wink
 
Ollfardh
Evenepoel looking good to win the GC, let's see how that TT goes.
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
 
deek12345
Alaphilippe was super strong
 
FreitasPCM
Alaphilippe wins the time-trial and consolidates his lead. Evenepoel finished 3rd, 12 seconds down on his team mate and has also stretched his advantage on the young riders classification, 35 seconds over Gino Mäder.
 
Ollfardh
And if anyone followed the Iljo Keisse saga, he did a stupid thing while posing with a fan (google the pic), got expelled from the race and now Lefevre treatens to withdraw the rest of the team. Maybe pre season racing can be exciting after all.
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
 
Shonak
Bakelants, Keisse.. looks like some belgians are seriously underfucked.
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"It’s a little bit scary when Contador attacks." - Tommy V
 
Kirchen_75
Remco is a monster
 
Kiserlovski01
As mentioned before, Alaphilippe won the time trial in a rather weak TT field. Evenepoel had a great intermediate time but couldn't keep up his pace on the second half of the stage.

Vuelta a San Juan (2.1)
Stage 3/6, 12 km ITT
1Julian AlaphilippeDeceuninck - Quick Step13'14"
2Valerio ContiUAE-Team Emirates+ 12"
3Remco EvenepoelDeceuninck - Quick Steps.t.
4Felix GroßschartnerBORA - hansgrohe+ 16"
5Winner AnaconaMovistar Teams.t.
6Fernando GaviriaUAE-Team Emirates+ 21"
7Peter SaganBORA - hansgrohe+ 26"
8Tom BohliUAE-Team Emirates+ 28"
9Laureano RosasAsociacion Civil Mardan+ 30"
10Óscar SevillaMedellin+ 31"


Gaviria just won stage 4 in a mass sprint, just like he did on stage 1.

Vuelta a San Juan (2.1)
Stage 4/6, 185 kms
1Fernando GaviriaUAE-Team Emirates4h20'26"
2Peter SaganBORA - hansgrohes.t.
3Álvaro José HodegDeceuninck - Quick Steps.t.
4Simone ConsonniUAE-Team Emiratess.t.
5Luca PacioniNeri Sottoli - Selle Italias.t.
6Matteo MalucelliCaja Rural - Seguros RGAs.t.
7Nelson Andrés SotoCaja Rural - Seguros RGAs.t.
8Imerio CimaNippo Vini Fantini Faizanès.t.
9Nikolas MaesLotto Soudals.t.
10German Nicolás TivaniAgrupacion Virgen de Fatimas.t.


Two stages with an uphill finish left, after tomorrow's rest day.
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Vali
Kiserlovski01 wrote:
Vuelta a San Juan (2.1)
Stage 3/6, 12 km ITT
1Julian AlaphilippeDeceuninck - Quick Step13'14"
2Valerio ContiUAE-Team Emirates+ 12"
3Remco EvenepoelDeceuninck - Quick Steps.t.
4Felix GroßschartnerBORA - hansgrohe+ 16"
5Winner AnaconaMovistar Teams.t.
6Fernando GaviriaUAE-Team Emirates+ 21"
7Peter SaganBORA - hansgrohe+ 26"
8Tom BohliUAE-Team Emirates+ 28"
9Laureano RosasAsociacion Civil Mardan+ 30"
10Óscar SevillaMedellin+ 31"


Sevilla is still going, seemingly on the same road as Rebellin.
Credits to the_hoyle for my avatar.
 
quadsas
I never exaggerate.

Remco will be considered GOAT by age 27
deez
 
FreitasPCM
quadsas wrote:
I never exaggerate.

Remco will be considered GOAT by age 27


My friend, you are delirious.

Obviously by 25. Cool
 
quadsas
FreitasPCM wrote:
quadsas wrote:
I never exaggerate.

Remco will be considered GOAT by age 27


My friend, you are delirious.

Obviously by 25. Cool


I was gonna say 24, but Sagan still has a couple years at the peak left, still fresh in people's memories by then.

Edit: just wait till they put Remco on that dope. He's probably only on like HGH at this point lmao
deez
 
ringo182
Ollfardh wrote:
And if anyone followed the Iljo Keisse saga, he did a stupid thing while posing with a fan (google the pic), got expelled from the race and now Lefevre treatens to withdraw the rest of the team. Maybe pre season racing can be exciting after all.


Rolling Eyes While it's clearly a very stupid thing to do, it is clearly a joke (however poor the taste may be). For the woman to seek legal advice and make sexual harassment claims is ridiculous. It's people like her who make it harder for real victims to get justice.
"Ringo is exactly right", Shonak - 8 September 2016
 
roturn
ringo182 wrote:
Ollfardh wrote:
And if anyone followed the Iljo Keisse saga, he did a stupid thing while posing with a fan (google the pic), got expelled from the race and now Lefevre treatens to withdraw the rest of the team. Maybe pre season racing can be exciting after all.


Rolling Eyes While it's clearly a very stupid thing to do, it is clearly a joke (however poor the taste may be). For the woman to seek legal advice and make sexual harassment claims is ridiculous. It's people like her who make it harder for real victims to get justice.

Sorry, but I can`t agree with you here.

It might look ridiculous to you and making things big, when it was a "joke".

But the main problem is that people still think, those kind of things are funny and jokes. As long as this is still the case, making it big and claiming it properly is absolutely needed.

Regarding your comparison with "real victims" and "people like her", it`s difficult. Even if there is far worse than those kind of things, it`s far from okay anyway and making her a "real victim" as well. Lowering the case to "it was just a joke", is one piece of the problem.

It`s 2019 and not 1970 anymore.
 
Shonak
I am fine with him getting sued. It wont add up to much but there is no harm in him having to pay some cash for his idiocy.
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ringo182
So do you think his intention was to sexually assult a woman on camera, in broad daylight and in his team colours? You believe that for a second of stupidity he deserves a criminal conviction and his name on the sex offenders register? This could ruin his career and future.

Let's put it into some context. If he had put his had in the shape of a gun and pretended to shoot her, would he be accused of a firearms offence? If he had put his hand in the shape of a fist and put a comical angry face on would he be accused of assult?

I particularly like the bit where she says "later I realized it wasn't an accident". Yeah, after she realised she might be able to make a bit of money out of it. No doubt she's been in the local media with her best compensation face on.

Yes, it's 2019. I would have hoped people would be able to see through this kind of BS by now.
"Ringo is exactly right", Shonak - 8 September 2016
 
TheManxMissile
ringo182 wrote:
So do you think his intention was to sexually assult a woman on camera, in broad daylight and in his team colours? You believe that for a second of stupidity he deserves a criminal conviction and his name on the sex offenders register? This could ruin his career and future.


Was it his intention, probably not. But guess what, sexual harassment doesn't have to targeted or pre-meditated.
If he doesn't want his career ruined, don't sexually harrass someone! It's real fucking simple to be a normal person and not sexually harrass someone.
The joke is crude and in bad taste, it's the allegation of thrusting into her that's the real bad part. Any sort of unsolicited sexual contact is just wrong and inexcusable.

Let's put it into some context. If he had put his had in the shape of a gun and pretended to shoot her, would he be accused of a firearms offence? If he had put his hand in the shape of a fist and put a comical angry face on would he be accused of assult?

Both of your examples here are theoretical instances with no physical interaction. Whereas the actual situation is both real and had physical interaction.

And it's hard to commit a firearms offence without a gun. Whereas you can commit sexual harrassment with your body and actions.

I particularly like the bit where she says "later I realized it wasn't an accident". Yeah, after she realised she might be able to make a bit of money out of it. No doubt she's been in the local media with her best compensation face on.

Yes, it's 2019. I would have hoped people would be able to see through this kind of BS by now.


Above you make a comment that real victims are damaged by her actions. Wrong. It is your actions that make it hard for victims to come forwards, because this is the response they face. Someone making outdated comments, deciding what she should feel and how she should respond, and then dismissing those thoughts you don't agree with or like.

Keisse made a crude joke and grossly inapropriate action. That's a fact. It's sexual harrassment. That's a fact. The waitress gets to decide how she feels about it, not you, not Keisse and not Lefevre. If she wants to seek legal help and police support, she can. You don't get to say whether she does or does not.
Becuase, and here's another simple concept, she is not you!

Cycling cannot be this old fashioned. In the last year there have been a number of serious allegations made against various people abusing female cyclists on that side of the sport. And then there's the Sagan ass grab, that's still a thing that happened. Be fucking better than this, be a sport everyone can enjoy.

God fucking damnit. Lefevre's been a right fucking ass today, don't join him by trying to excuse Keisse or this kind of behavior. Be a better human being.
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ringo182
We'll have to agree to disagree. This is not sexual harassment. It's a stupid immature joke in very bad taste.

I also like the bit where the girl didn't realise it had happened until she saw the photo but was suddenly sure his genitals touched her. OK then Rolling Eyes
"Ringo is exactly right", Shonak - 8 September 2016
 
cunego59
Emanuel Buchmann wins his first non-NC race of his career, beats Wellens and Mollema at the Trofeo Andratx - Lloseta!

Banana Banana Banana
 
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