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Posted on 26-08-2018 18:56
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Not a good stage for Van Stayen. Last season he lost 37 seconds in the epilog to Coppel and he has less (30s) than that on Fiedler, Malori, Van Winden, etc... more bonus seconds have to be earned on the final spront stage to be sure to keep those behind. also to beat a couple of those sprinters behind him who might have better PRL stats. GC looks superb right now although i obviously have to expect that all my guys at s.t. with Dzamastagic will be at the end of the group. If the next stage dont change anything that is.
An interesting development is that Stoltz has joined the chasing riders after losing GC chances and that could possibly impact the next stage..
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| viking90 |
Posted on 26-08-2018 19:26
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Please take some bonus seconds on stage 5 again Ahlstrand then on the Epilogue he might get enough secons on MvS to pass him in the GC and if he gets a better position then Kennaugh on stage 5 he might overwin him on the Epilogue aswell! #staypositive #huntingstagepodium |
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| alexkr00 |
Posted on 26-08-2018 19:28
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Great to see something actually come out of this race after all. The old methods still work - complain hard enough and eventually your team will deliver.
Now, if only Howson would avoid any trouble in the next stage, he should be set up for a top 15.
Also, I think there's something wrong with Grosu's jersey. It looks like some of krisa's background is displayed as part of the jersey. Looking again in the DB the jersey might be too big. Can anyone please confirm me what size the jersey should be?
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 26-08-2018 19:37
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And there it is - the Air France train. Nice to see, although a shame that it happened on a stage like this where the breakaway somehow managed to steal a stage win.
Great riding, though, and Kennaugh still up there... |
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 26-08-2018 19:39
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Had a look at the Prologue stats of all the Top 30 in GC:
| Rider | Team Tinkoff | Gap | Prologue | | John Degenkolb | Iberia - Team Degenkolb | 0 | 67 | | Sam Bewley | Moser - Sygic | 12 | 71 | | Peter Kennaugh | Air France - KLM | 18 | 63 | | Bryan Coquard | Festina - Dexia | 26 | 79 | | Michael Van Stayen | Evonik - ELKO | 35 | 60 | | Jonas Ahlstrand | Volvo acc. by Spotify | 41 | 72 | | Gerald Ciolek | Aker - MOT | 43 | 61 | | Alexander Kristoff | Hugo Boss | 50 | 73 | | Óscar Avelino | Porto - Prio | 50 | 70 | | Rick Zabel | Desigual | 55 | 55 | | Ben Swift | Aegon - Lavazza | 64 | 70 | | Leigh Howard | Bennelong - Mitchelton | 64 | 68 | | Jacob Fiedler | T-Mobile | 65 | 82 | | Dennis Van Winden | Berg Cycles | 65 | 80 | | Damien Howson | eBuddy | 65 | 80 | | Zakkari Dempster | Bennelong - Mitchelton | 65 | 79 | | Adrian Malori | Team Tinkoff | 65 | 79 | | Morgan Kneisky | EA Vesuvio | 65 | 76 | | Dylan Groenewegen | Aegon - Lavazza | 65 | 72 | | Luis Miguel Mansilla | Evonik - ELKO | 65 | 72 | | Erik Baska | Moser - Sygic | 65 | 71 | | Marko Kump | Isostar - Slovenje | 65 | 70 | | Roman Maksimov | Desigual | 65 | 69 | | Sven Nooytens | Evonik - ELKO | 65 | 68 | | Jan Brockhoff | Iberia - Team Degenkolb | 65 | 68 | | Lars Croket | Moser - Sygic | 65 | 67 | | Mark Dzamastagic | Evonik - ELKO | 65 | 65 | | Kris Boeckmans | Grieg - Eftel | 65 | 60 | | Ingus Eislers | Evonik - ELKO | 65 | 59 | | Geert Van der Sanden | Iberia - Team Degenkolb | 65 | 59 |
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| tsmoha |
Posted on 26-08-2018 19:41
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alexkr00 wrote:
Also, I think there's something wrong with Grosu's jersey. It looks like some of krisa's background is displayed as part of the jersey. Looking again in the DB the jersey might be too big. Can anyone please confirm me what size the jersey should be?
910x626 iirc. Currently not on my notebook though. Since your Diesel shirt was initially bugged as well, it may be something wrong here as well.
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Posted on 26-08-2018 19:49
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SportingNonsense wrote:
Had a look at the Prologue stats of all the Top 30 in GC:
| Rider | Team Tinkoff | Gap | Prologue | | John Degenkolb | Iberia - Team Degenkolb | 0 | 67 | | Sam Bewley | Moser - Sygic | 12 | 71 | | Peter Kennaugh | Air France - KLM | 18 | 63 | | Bryan Coquard | Festina - Dexia | 26 | 79 | | Michael Van Stayen | Evonik - ELKO | 35 | 60 | | Jonas Ahlstrand | Volvo acc. by Spotify | 41 | 72 | | Gerald Ciolek | Aker - MOT | 43 | 61 | | Alexander Kristoff | Hugo Boss | 50 | 73 | | Óscar Avelino | Porto - Prio | 50 | 70 | | Rick Zabel | Desigual | 55 | 55 | | Ben Swift | Aegon - Lavazza | 64 | 70 | | Leigh Howard | Bennelong - Mitchelton | 64 | 68 | | Jacob Fiedler | T-Mobile | 65 | 82 | | Dennis Van Winden | Berg Cycles | 65 | 80 | | Damien Howson | eBuddy | 65 | 80 | | Zakkari Dempster | Bennelong - Mitchelton | 65 | 79 | | Adrian Malori | Team Tinkoff | 65 | 79 | | Morgan Kneisky | EA Vesuvio | 65 | 76 | | Dylan Groenewegen | Aegon - Lavazza | 65 | 72 | | Luis Miguel Mansilla | Evonik - ELKO | 65 | 72 | | Erik Baska | Moser - Sygic | 65 | 71 | | Marko Kump | Isostar - Slovenje | 65 | 70 | | Roman Maksimov | Desigual | 65 | 69 | | Sven Nooytens | Evonik - ELKO | 65 | 68 | | Jan Brockhoff | Iberia - Team Degenkolb | 65 | 68 | | Lars Croket | Moser - Sygic | 65 | 67 | | Mark Dzamastagic | Evonik - ELKO | 65 | 65 | | Kris Boeckmans | Grieg - Eftel | 65 | 60 | | Ingus Eislers | Evonik - ELKO | 65 | 59 | | Geert Van der Sanden | Iberia - Team Degenkolb | 65 | 59 |
Thanks a lot! Very cool information!
Actually looks a bit better than expected 
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| alexkr00 |
Posted on 26-08-2018 19:54
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tsmoha wrote:
alexkr00 wrote:
Also, I think there's something wrong with Grosu's jersey. It looks like some of krisa's background is displayed as part of the jersey. Looking again in the DB the jersey might be too big. Can anyone please confirm me what size the jersey should be?
910x626 iirc. Currently not on my notebook though. Since your Diesel shirt was initially bugged as well, it may be something wrong here as well.
Yeah, seems to be too big. But "my" Diesel? 
You guys should let me know if you want me to reupload the jersey with the correct size or if you can do that yourselves backstage 
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| tsmoha |
Posted on 26-08-2018 19:58
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alexkr00 wrote:
tsmoha wrote:
alexkr00 wrote:
Also, I think there's something wrong with Grosu's jersey. It looks like some of krisa's background is displayed as part of the jersey. Looking again in the DB the jersey might be too big. Can anyone please confirm me what size the jersey should be?
910x626 iirc. Currently not on my notebook though. Since your Diesel shirt was initially bugged as well, it may be something wrong here as well.
Yeah, seems to be too big. But "my" Diesel?
You guys should let me know if you want me to reupload the jersey with the correct size or if you can do that yourselves backstage
Guess there's no need to re-upload.
The Diesel reference should be addressed to Gustav though  my bad!
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| beagle |
Posted on 26-08-2018 20:12
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Second stage win plus another podium place? I happily take it!
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| Marcovdw |
Posted on 26-08-2018 20:17
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Breakaway and we're not part of it 
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| DubbelDekker |
Posted on 26-08-2018 20:43
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Pretty gutted we didn't make it into the winning break. We have zero riders capable of sprinting. They should constantly be attacking.
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Posted on 26-08-2018 21:43
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Brilliant stuff by Ciolek, getting 2nd among the sprinters and 4th on the stage. Those bonifications could prove crucial in the fight for a top 10 GC. Though, to hold off especially Fiedler, van Winden and Howson, he'll probably need 6-10 more bonus seconds. Hopefully he turns up with stage 4 sprinter legs for that final proper stage, as it could give us a decent start to the season, after the terrible Badaling performance from our hilly squad.
Degenkolb looks to take control of the GC now with that stage, while Bewley and Coquard must be favourites for the other podium places, but obviously a lot can change on stage 5 regarding that, as there's still more than enough bonus secons left for them to shift the balance in the fight for the top 3 places.
And also congratulations on the stage, alexkr00! That's quite a way to salvage something from Qatar, that's for sure.
On the other side, I really feel for roturn, as Swift's performance here is just crazy bad. Only having picked up 1 bonus second says everything, and even a win on stage 5 won't help much in a race where he normally is the guy to beat. Clearly quite a blow for Aegon and their season as a whole, that's for sure. |
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| Gustavovskiy |
Posted on 26-08-2018 23:40
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Egidio with a massive stage. Too bad he couldn't hang before the peloton came roaring in. Avelino was left boxed unlike in previous stages. Let's see what's in store for the final sprint. Actually it's still pretty much a battle royale.
Congrats on the lucky win, alex. Kinda deserved given the Grosu subpar performance.
Speaking of that let me know about Diesel's kit. Should I re-send it guys?
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| tsmoha |
Posted on 26-08-2018 23:49
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You don't have to. It's already been fixed. Not sure about the exact number of races, but there may be one or two early season races, where it's bugged. Maybe only one.
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Posted on 27-08-2018 05:49
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great ride Van Zyl absolute love him!
first sign of life my team actually exists hopefully Nathan Brown may get a top 40 overall here as well but overall not the best race for us |
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| dev4ever |
Posted on 27-08-2018 09:03
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Kristoff seems to have found his level here. Some pretty odd results, especially Swift is having a nightmare..
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| alexkr00 |
Posted on 27-08-2018 09:23
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Welcome to the dark side, roturn.
Grosu's best sprint in the race and he only finishes 10th. I'm sure ember is even more frustrated with the breakaway making it all the way to the finish though.
Howson not losing time is great. A top 13 or so seems to be secured now with chances of improving it depending on how things go in the last stage.
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| jt1109 |
Posted on 27-08-2018 09:24
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haha a 2nd and a 3rd on two stages is better then we managed with a decent sprinter last year very happy with this race overall not a bad start at all |
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| tsmoha |
Posted on 27-08-2018 09:25
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So if Swift can't do it, Gallopin comes around  I really don't like breakaway victories in Qatar, but this one is kinda deserved, I assume.
Howard does not care for the sprint. Brilliant stuff. Thanks to his one bonus second gained on first (?) day, he may still finish inside the Top-25 eventually. Which is at least something... obviously hoping for Dempster to deliver a proper epilogue for a Top-15 in the GC. Anything else would be disastrous at his point, where only a few good TT riders are left in this bunch of riders fighting for the GC behind the sprinters!
If Dennis can at least live up to his prologue stat and get us some points through a stage result, that would be kind. The recent TTs in Qatar went rather terrible for us though..
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