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| Bikex |
Posted on 13-08-2018 13:26
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Anyone still interested in the draft? |
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| jaxika |
Posted on 13-08-2018 13:43
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Sure! |
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| hillis91 |
Posted on 13-08-2018 14:54
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Yeah
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| ivaneurope |
Posted on 13-08-2018 15:16
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Why not?
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| knockout |
Posted on 13-08-2018 16:13
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Im not interested in the draft but everything that moves the game forwardis positive so bring it on! 
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| Bikex |
Posted on 13-08-2018 16:39
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Allright!
Talents Draft
Please use the file Croatia posted on the previous page.
All remaining talents are listed there. A little information on their stats is also included:
1 -> <59
2 -> <66
3 -> 66+
Together with information you got during scouting and the U21 WC that's all you get before sending in a draft table.
To create your draft table please go to the table "DraftTable". Enter your team ID and the rider IDs you like. Copy the table and send it to me.
There will be 2 rounds for already existing teams. The order will be first CT teams in upside down PR ranking order, then WT teams in upside down WT ranking. If you draft a rider you get the signing rights for him. Before you decide if you want him, you get to look at his full stats.
After the draft potential new teams are allowed to pick 1-2 riders from the remaining talent pool. It is not allowed to sign more riders after the draft, but you can request riders to be added to the db for the new season. You'll be able to pick these riders off the FA. |
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| Shonak |
Posted on 13-08-2018 18:54
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I have no idea which guy I was interested in back then 
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| jandal7 |
Posted on 13-08-2018 21:55
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Shonak wrote:
I have no idea which guy I was interested in back then
+1
24/02/21 - kandesbunzler said “I don't drink famous people."
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| Ripley |
Posted on 15-08-2018 08:26
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Ok, I sent out a table with 20 riders, I hope that'll be enough for both draft rounds.
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| Bikex |
Posted on 15-08-2018 11:11
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Shonak wrote:
I have no idea which guy I was interested in back then
Me neither 
@Ripley: 20 should be enough the turnout for the draft doesn't seem to be very high. |
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| Bikex |
Posted on 15-08-2018 15:59
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Now before starting the new season is the best time for you to voice any feedback, critique or suggestions in case you want something to be changed.
Some general notes/questions:
Development
The development formulas will be changed quite a lot. This is what I am currently working on. The goal is to give option for more individual training and to allow more variety in future ICL databases.
Budget
From next season on CT points will again give money for WT teams, but less than points earned in WT.
Renewals/Steals
It will be possible to block riders from steal attempts (up to 5 per team). In return the rider will ask for more wage for him to not talk to other teams.
Transfers
Not really planned to change much here, but would like to know:
Would you like more complex transfer options? I'm thinking of including other stuff into deals like draft picks, stat packs, scouting information and so on. However would probably be difficult to realize.
Another thing would be to allow clauses to be included into transfer deals. Like for example buyout or rebuy clauses for riders that can be activated during transfers of later seasons. Or transfer rights on riders of another team,...
Scouting
How did you like the new system? Would you like anything to be changed? For example there could be more information included into the reports, but for that I'd need suggestions what and how.
Anything else?
Please let me know if there is anything else on your mind. Also I'm willing to listen to calendar complaints. Although the plan is to not change much, if anything there. |
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| AbhishekLFC |
Posted on 15-08-2018 17:23
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A couple of thoughts off the top of my head...
Renewals/Steals
I like the idea of blocking steals, but 5 maybe too high a number. Also, I hope the wage increase demanded for a steal attempt won't be too high, as that negates the whole thing.
Transfers
Buyback clauses would be a good addition but I think they should be valid only for the next season after the initial transfer has happened. Perhaps the selling teams should also get to do the rider development, if applicable, for the said rider for the next season.
Scouting
Really like the scouting that was introduced but perhaps we can buy riders any time of the season and not just from August where there is a increased chance of a clash with other teams. Maybe have three buying windows, after March, June and September, if a monthly option is hard to maintain. And then have the draft at the end of the season like this time.
Will post again, if I think of anything.
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| Bikex |
Posted on 15-08-2018 17:52
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Thanks for the post
The demanded wage for steal blocked riders will increase independent of steals attempts on him. Even if noone tries to steal him, he'll ask for more, but most likely less more than when not blocked and a steal attempt is placed on him.
I was thinking either the clause could be valid 1 year, but max 2 years. Maybe with an automatic increase for the second year.
Not sure if we should make it possible to sign talents earlier. It's not intended to not have any clashes. What do others think about this? |
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| AbhishekLFC |
Posted on 15-08-2018 18:30
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Bikex wrote:
Not sure if we should make it possible to sign talents earlier. It's not intended to not have any clashes. What do others think about this?
Just to elaborate why I said this, if I find a rider and think he's very good at first glance, and want to to sign him up immediately, I would like to be able to do that. If he turns out to be good, I will be rewarded for my foresight (or luck, whichever way you want to put it ).
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| Shonak |
Posted on 15-08-2018 18:31
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Bikex wrote:
Renewals/Steals
It will be possible to block riders from steal attempts (up to 5 per team). In return the rider will ask for more wage for him to not talk to other teams.
Hallelujah!
Love the Scouting. Some transfer clauses is nice. Please don't make the signing of riders overly complicated. it's not ideal atm but it's fast and efficient. What maybe would be nice if all the star riders were actually out of the pool after the first round. Otherwise, it's always such a "if i had only"-feeling..
When do you think the dev file will be released? I have to mark the day red in my calendar.
Edited by Shonak on 15-08-2018 18:36
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| Shonak |
Posted on 15-08-2018 18:38
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Bikex wrote:
Thanks for the post
The demanded wage for steal blocked riders will increase independent of steals attempts on him. Even if noone tries to steal him, he'll ask for more, but most likely less more than when not blocked and a steal attempt is placed on him.
I was thinking either the clause could be valid 1 year, but max 2 years. Maybe with an automatic increase for the second year.
Does this mean that the rider is blocked for one year per option or that i can only use this option once on him?
Eithre way, is the wage steadily increased then (wage + steal block = new standard for y2) or is it always on top so that the next year the wage is reduced to the original value bar results/dev?
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| Bikex |
Posted on 15-08-2018 19:38
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Shonak wrote:
Love the Scouting. Some transfer clauses is nice. Please don't make the signing of riders overly complicated. it's not ideal atm but it's fast and efficient. What maybe would be nice if all the star riders were actually out of the pool after the first round. Otherwise, it's always such a "if i had only"-feeling..
When do you think the dev file will be released? I have to mark the day red in my calendar.
How do you want the star riders to be removed from the pool, if noone has signed them?
Don't know yet, it's still some work to finalize the file, but will try to finish it asap.
Shonak wrote:
Does this mean that the rider is blocked for one year per option or that i can only use this option once on him?
Eithre way, is the wage steadily increased then (wage + steal block = new standard for y2) or is it always on top so that the next year the wage is reduced to the original value bar results/dev?
The content of these 2 paragraphs was not connected. Only the first was about steals. You can block riders before renewals. |
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| Ripley |
Posted on 16-08-2018 08:46
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Blocking seems like a pretty clever addition. Interesting question just how "painful" it should be. If it's just +10% it'd be an easy choice, +50% might be too harsh. It'd probably be enough if it's only valid for a year and only affects the wage demand that year.
Personally, I don't need any fancy transfer clauses.
I'm unsure about signing talents earlier. But I got the feeling that we were missing one signing round just before the draft, after scouting round 10.
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| jandal7 |
Posted on 16-08-2018 09:30
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I liked the old scouting system of 3/2/1, perhaps I'm a little biased (and there were elements of the new system I did like) because of my failing at it
24/02/21 - kandesbunzler said “I don't drink famous people."
15/08/22 - SotD said "Your [jandal's] humour is overrated"
11/06/24 - knockout said "Winning is fine I guess. Truth be told this felt completely unimportant."
[ICL] Santos-Euskadi | [PT] Xero Racing
5x x5
2x x2
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| Bikex |
Posted on 18-08-2018 12:53
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Ripley wrote:
Blocking seems like a pretty clever addition. Interesting question just how "painful" it should be. If it's just +10% it'd be an easy choice, +50% might be too harsh. It'd probably be enough if it's only valid for a year and only affects the wage demand that year.
Personally, I don't need any fancy transfer clauses.
I'm unsure about signing talents earlier. But I got the feeling that we were missing one signing round just before the draft, after scouting round 10.
Don't know yet how much the additional waage demand will be, but it won't be extremely painful.
We didn't miss a signing round, it might seemed that way because of my misunderstandable description. The sigining rounds were supposed to be part of scouting rounds. There was signing possible during round 8 and round 10, while the scouting was ongoing. results of round 10 scouting are only usable in the draft.
btw keep the draft tables coming!  |
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