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Strange drops in rider form
Blueprint
Hey guys,

After carefully planning my season, including fitness schedules and all the races, I'm noticing some strange drops in form for my riders. These drops were not shown when I was actually planning the season, but they came up later. Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong, so I can plan better?

I've attached some pictures to make the situation more clear. Adam Yates was supposed to peak at Tirreno-Adriatico, Kreuziger at the Amstel Gold Race and Trentin at the Ronde van Vlaanderen. I really don't understand why this is happening and it's quite frustrating.
Blueprint attached the following images:
kreuziger_1.jpg adamyates.jpg trentin.jpg
 
Blueprint
Actually, the only thing I can think of is my attempted peaks being too long and the form just dropping after some time, even though it's not showing in the planner and fatigue seems to remain low.
 
Burner99
Blueprint wrote:
Actually, the only thing I can think of is my attempted peaks being too long and the form just dropping after some time, even though it's not showing in the planner and fatigue seems to remain low.


I don't think that is the issue as I had riders that had a fitness of 100% the whole season without a problem. Sickness and injuries can cause the form to drop. For example I had some riders with Fitness 100 %, then they said that they don't feel well, which caused the fitness to drop by a few points, in one case even to 92%.
 
Blueprint
Burner99 wrote:
Blueprint wrote:
Actually, the only thing I can think of is my attempted peaks being too long and the form just dropping after some time, even though it's not showing in the planner and fatigue seems to remain low.


I don't think that is the issue as I had riders that had a fitness of 100% the whole season without a problem. Sickness and injuries can cause the form to drop. For example I had some riders with Fitness 100 %, then they said that they don't feel well, which caused the fitness to drop by a few points, in one case even to 92%.


Thanks for your advice, but most of my riders had no such problems, so that can't be the issue here. And dropping to 92% is one thing, having a total form crash for weeks is something else...
 
Burner99
Blueprint wrote:
Burner99 wrote:
Blueprint wrote:
Actually, the only thing I can think of is my attempted peaks being too long and the form just dropping after some time, even though it's not showing in the planner and fatigue seems to remain low.


I don't think that is the issue as I had riders that had a fitness of 100% the whole season without a problem. Sickness and injuries can cause the form to drop. For example I had some riders with Fitness 100 %, then they said that they don't feel well, which caused the fitness to drop by a few points, in one case even to 92%.


Thanks for your advice, but most of my riders had no such problems, so that can't be the issue here. And dropping to 92% is one thing, having a total form crash for weeks is something else...


I just experience the same phenomena. For almost all riders the form just crashes. I'm near the start of the Vuelta, but the not one rider who has this race as a goal has good form. The form just crashed from one update to another. One week ago, all was good. Next week, Fitness decreased by 12 points and will decrease at a similar rate the next few weeks.

(The DYN_cyclist_fitness_data table has a strange column. Basically for every week the bag_i_fatigue value is the same, but in the week with the strange form drop it is different.) * It's the same value for the working week, so this should not be the problem

I loaded a weekly save file from the previous week, mainly to look if the thing would happen again. It did not happen again, which is strange.
Edited by Burner99 on 10-08-2018 13:42
 
Blueprint
Burner99 wrote:
Blueprint wrote:
Burner99 wrote:
Blueprint wrote:
Actually, the only thing I can think of is my attempted peaks being too long and the form just dropping after some time, even though it's not showing in the planner and fatigue seems to remain low.


I don't think that is the issue as I had riders that had a fitness of 100% the whole season without a problem. Sickness and injuries can cause the form to drop. For example I had some riders with Fitness 100 %, then they said that they don't feel well, which caused the fitness to drop by a few points, in one case even to 92%.


Thanks for your advice, but most of my riders had no such problems, so that can't be the issue here. And dropping to 92% is one thing, having a total form crash for weeks is something else...


I just experience the same phenomena. For almost all riders the form just crashes. I'm near the start of the Vuelta, but the not one rider who has this race as a goal has good form. The form just crashed from one update to another. One week ago, all was good. Next week, Fitness decreased by 12 points and will decrease at a similar rate the next few weeks.

(The DYN_cyclist_fitness_data table has a strange column. Basically for every week the bag_i_fatigue value is the same, but in the week with the strange form drop it is different.) * It's the same value for the working week, so this should not be the problem

I loaded a weekly save file from the previous week, mainly to look if the thing would happen again. It did not happen again, which is strange.


Thanks for your analysis, this is really helpful. Looks like a bug then, but at least the weekly saves could prevent disaster.
 
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