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| Blueprint |
Posted on 26-07-2018 12:57
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Domestique
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To prevent young riders from developing too fast or too slow, you can modify STA_cyclist_progression in the database. I always make it 0.5, 0.75, 1, 1.25 and 1.5 instead of the original values to get a more natural development. The value for VERYFAST is 3 by default, which is simply way too high, while VERYSLOW at the original value almost leads to total stagnation for a whole season, which I also don't like. VERYFAST should never be higher than 2. |
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| CDrake |
Posted on 26-07-2018 13:10
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Junior Rider
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Infernoss wrote:
Lol, 83 mountain. I had the same with ewan. Did a good tour down under and gp of dubai and suddenly is 83 spr and 84 acc....
I am also pretty frustrated about the way that the sponsors are thinking about your results, riders and registred riders. It feels like there is no idea behind or no way to make it correct (unless you sign all the top riders, which is ofcourse impossible). I am curious what your experience will be with the transfers/signing of riders. I heard a lot of bad stories about it. That the topriders, despite being very happy, still want to leave and you cant resign them....Kinda sucks.
I thought this was fixed in the last patch? I might run into the problem anyway, because they said it would only be applied to an existing save after the current season...
Also just checked Oomen's development, it seems like he gained 7 MTN since January...
Here's his evolution:
https://ibb.co/eM... |
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| moromete |
Posted on 26-07-2018 13:36
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Thanks for the info, Blueprint, please post those updated xml files once you create something that works well for you, with your files and the changes to the cdb. I might actually play for more than two seasons before weirdly strong young riders ruin the fun |
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| jensi251 |
Posted on 26-07-2018 18:37
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CDrake wrote:
Infernoss wrote:
Lol, 83 mountain. I had the same with ewan. Did a good tour down under and gp of dubai and suddenly is 83 spr and 84 acc....
I am also pretty frustrated about the way that the sponsors are thinking about your results, riders and registred riders. It feels like there is no idea behind or no way to make it correct (unless you sign all the top riders, which is ofcourse impossible). I am curious what your experience will be with the transfers/signing of riders. I heard a lot of bad stories about it. That the topriders, despite being very happy, still want to leave and you cant resign them....Kinda sucks.
I thought this was fixed in the last patch? I might run into the problem anyway, because they said it would only be applied to an existing save after the current season...
Definitly not fixed. Still can not sign or resign riders. The good ones always show "no interest". |
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| CDrake |
Posted on 27-07-2018 00:26
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Junior Rider
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Definitly not fixed. Still can not sign or resign riders. The good ones always show "no interest".
I just finished my season and could resign everyone I wanted to. The only thing that's wrong is that it takes your staff's wage into the budget calculation, which they said would be fixed for the next season on existing saves.
There's a workaround to it too, you can just fire the statt on Aug 1, then use your full budget for signings/resignings and hire new staff afterwards.
Here's my new squad for season 2019, basically just got rid of some old riders and replaced them with young talents. Also got Sam Bennett as a 2nd designated sprinter next to Bauhaus.
https://ibb.co/cr...
Another good thing is that my sponsor now starts in the green area. Dumoulin's 3rd place finish in the tour was good enough to get him to "superstar" popularity, so my sponsor is happy with him now.
A bad thing is, we dropped down to 7th position in the team index ranking, probably due to the youngsters I signed, but I can live with that I guess. Another bad thing was KRAGH ANDERSEN leaving the team. I messed up the contract talks and made him cancel negotiations because of 1000€ salary... |
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| jensi251 |
Posted on 27-07-2018 09:09
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I do not have the staf problem. Just the signing problem for good riders (like 77 and above). Every time they show "no interest" and so i can not sign them. No matter how good my team is, their nationality etc
Does not look like you tried to sign one of the really good riders. |
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| Infernoss |
Posted on 27-07-2018 09:45
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Junior Rider
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@CDrake, thanks for the info. Gives me hope that it will be allright for me aswell. Not that far in the season yet however. Good to know that the riderstatus does change and this will satisfy the sponsors. Hope that I can keep Ewan  .
Did you tried to sign other major riders? Just wondering how hard this is. Probably want to get rid of Chaves and some old riders to make room for a better cobblestone rider (my sponsor wants to win in that area....). Still have the yates brothers for next season to contest in the major tours. |
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| CDrake |
Posted on 27-07-2018 13:35
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Infernoss wrote:
@CDrake, thanks for the info. Gives me hope that it will be allright for me aswell. Not that far in the season yet however. Good to know that the riderstatus does change and this will satisfy the sponsors. Hope that I can keep Ewan .
Did you tried to sign other major riders? Just wondering how hard this is. Probably want to get rid of Chaves and some old riders to make room for a better cobblestone rider (my sponsor wants to win in that area....). Still have the yates brothers for next season to contest in the major tours.
Actually I tried to sign Ewan, but he was too expensive for my team, and there are similar riders available for much less. From the negotiations, I think he would have wanted around 65k which I just couldn't afford without releasing more other riders. He now signed with BMC for 63k
Edit: I might try to replace Dumoulin with Landa though next season who seems to be roughly 40k cheaper than Dumoulin. He's also been on fire this season:
https://ibb.co/fd...
I realized top drivers are much harder to sign if you already have a similar driver. Like people like Froome for example complained about having their "rival" Dumoulin in the same team, when I tried to negotiate with them. The acceptance bar only went from red to yellow when I was ready to massively overspend.
So I guess you can't just hire 20 80+ riders, but that seems to be realistic to me.
Edited by CDrake on 27-07-2018 13:41
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| OPQS93 |
Posted on 28-07-2018 17:19
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Stagiare
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I don't know how to win in PCM 18... Either I just get blocked or my riders just give up on life and suddently just stops sprinting and/or following someone. Or no matter what sprinter I have, when I click sprint EVERYONE is accelrerating way faster...
And cobbles Van Avermaet attacks, no one cares. Then Sagan attacks, no one cares. Then Kristoff attacked, no one cared so I followed then EVERYONE is following. So I stop, then EVERYONE stopped and Kristoff just rode away. Then I attacked and EVERYONE followed... Sure if I were Quick Step or just had the big favorite that could make sense but I have... Politt... Still it's only me they cares about, everyone can attack and noone follows until I attack
And the sponsor ''negotiations'' are terrible, you get 3 offers where you can click accept and.... that's pretty much it
And the new contract negotiations in itself is fine, but it makes the game so easy. Since if you got the money you get the rider, since if he agrees with you he will sigin on the minute. There is no waiting and then he might come back ''Sorry, I got a better offer'' So you can sign who ever you want on day 1 with no competition, the only thing that can stop you from getting everyone you want is the budget, there is no competition from the other teams
Edited by OPQS93 on 28-07-2018 18:20
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| Morgan63 |
Posted on 28-07-2018 19:08
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Blueprint wrote:
To prevent young riders from developing too fast or too slow, you can modify STA_cyclist_progression in the database. I always make it 0.5, 0.75, 1, 1.25 and 1.5 instead of the original values to get a more natural development. The value for VERYFAST is 3 by default, which is simply way too high, while VERYSLOW at the original value almost leads to total stagnation for a whole season, which I also don't like. VERYFAST should never be higher than 2.
Where can you see what this value is for the rider? DYN_CYCLIST_PROGRESSION has a field value_i_season_bit that I thought might be it, but is goes from 1-6 (at least in PCM 2017)
Thanks to anyone who can help. |
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| Azerbaijan |
Posted on 29-07-2018 08:07
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Neo-Pro
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Morgan63 wrote:
Blueprint wrote:
To prevent young riders from developing too fast or too slow, you can modify STA_cyclist_progression in the database. I always make it 0.5, 0.75, 1, 1.25 and 1.5 instead of the original values to get a more natural development. The value for VERYFAST is 3 by default, which is simply way too high, while VERYSLOW at the original value almost leads to total stagnation for a whole season, which I also don't like. VERYFAST should never be higher than 2.
Where can you see what this value is for the rider? DYN_CYCLIST_PROGRESSION has a field value_i_season_bit that I thought might be it, but is goes from 1-6 (at least in PCM 2017)
Thanks to anyone who can help.
It literally says so in his post. STA_cyclist_progression |
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| Morgan63 |
Posted on 29-07-2018 13:34
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Azerbaijan wrote:
Morgan63 wrote:
Blueprint wrote:
To prevent young riders from developing too fast or too slow, you can modify STA_cyclist_progression in the database. I always make it 0.5, 0.75, 1, 1.25 and 1.5 instead of the original values to get a more natural development. The value for VERYFAST is 3 by default, which is simply way too high, while VERYSLOW at the original value almost leads to total stagnation for a whole season, which I also don't like. VERYFAST should never be higher than 2.
Where can you see what this value is for the rider? DYN_CYCLIST_PROGRESSION has a field value_i_season_bit that I thought might be it, but is goes from 1-6 (at least in PCM 2017)
Thanks to anyone who can help.
It literally says so in his post. STA_cyclist_progression
No it isn't. Don't worry it is beyond your comprehension. I don't need YOUR help on this matter. Thanks. |
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| Azerbaijan |
Posted on 29-07-2018 13:36
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Morgan63 wrote:
Azerbaijan wrote:
Morgan63 wrote:
Blueprint wrote:
To prevent young riders from developing too fast or too slow, you can modify STA_cyclist_progression in the database. I always make it 0.5, 0.75, 1, 1.25 and 1.5 instead of the original values to get a more natural development. The value for VERYFAST is 3 by default, which is simply way too high, while VERYSLOW at the original value almost leads to total stagnation for a whole season, which I also don't like. VERYFAST should never be higher than 2.
Where can you see what this value is for the rider? DYN_CYCLIST_PROGRESSION has a field value_i_season_bit that I thought might be it, but is goes from 1-6 (at least in PCM 2017)
Thanks to anyone who can help.
It literally says so in his post. STA_cyclist_progression
No it isn't. Don't worry it is beyond your comprehension. I don't need YOUR help on this matter. Thanks.
That's kind of weird, because I found STA_cyclist progression, and made the changes myself
EDIT: I think we may be talking about two different things. Are you talking about each individual cyclists progression? |
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| Morgan63 |
Posted on 30-07-2018 00:44
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The table - STA_cyclist_progression that Blueprint mentions only defines what rate of increase each numeric value has applied to that cyclist. It is a defining table, for lack of my knowing what the proper term would be in computer programming.
It basically just tells the program "if a cyclist has this #, then apply this progression" but it does not contain any info on the individual cyclists.
I am asking where does it list the value for the individual cyclist? I don't see it in DYN_cyclist.
As I mentioned it is possible that it is in DYN_CYCLIST_PROGRESSION but the field that might be it goes from 1-6 and not 1-5 as he mentions. But I am still using 2017, so I was hoping someone could clarify where the value is for the individual cyclist. |
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| CDrake |
Posted on 30-07-2018 08:22
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Do trainers, training intensity, number of racedays and other factors have an influence on progression or is cyclist progression a hard definition in this database? |
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| Dusen |
Posted on 30-07-2018 09:10
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OPQS93 wrote:
I don't know how to win in PCM 18... Either I just get blocked or my riders just give up on life and suddently just stops sprinting and/or following someone. Or no matter what sprinter I have, when I click sprint EVERYONE is accelrerating way faster...
And cobbles Van Avermaet attacks, no one cares. Then Sagan attacks, no one cares. Then Kristoff attacked, no one cared so I followed then EVERYONE is following. So I stop, then EVERYONE stopped and Kristoff just rode away. Then I attacked and EVERYONE followed... Sure if I were Quick Step or just had the big favorite that could make sense but I have... Politt... Still it's only me they cares about, everyone can attack and noone follows until I attack
And the sponsor ''negotiations'' are terrible, you get 3 offers where you can click accept and.... that's pretty much it
And the new contract negotiations in itself is fine, but it makes the game so easy. Since if you got the money you get the rider, since if he agrees with you he will sigin on the minute. There is no waiting and then he might come back ''Sorry, I got a better offer'' So you can sign who ever you want on day 1 with no competition, the only thing that can stop you from getting everyone you want is the budget, there is no competition from the other teams
When they fix this, and actually have the AI racing against each other with different goals for each AI managed team, this game will improve so much. That's in my opinion the biggest issue with the actual racing mechanics. |
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| Rosenvold112 |
Posted on 30-07-2018 09:59
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I'm in my second season with Virtu and just landed a wild card for the Vuelta! It's a lot of fun and the recruitment seems very realistic and tough.
The races are similar to former years. It's very tricky to win sprints and position your sprinter, but I guess that is realistic. The mountain stages are quite unrealistic still, I think. There simply seems to be WAY to many great climbers - or perhaps it's too reliant on their MTN stat?
In my current Vuelta, there are around 15 guys with 80+ MTN stat. That means that climbing the Sierra Nevada feels like a bunch sprint with very little selection along the climb and then an all-out burst from a big peloton. I think 30 riders were within 1'30 on that stage. Was that just this one stage or is it a general issue? |
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| Infernoss |
Posted on 30-07-2018 13:37
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Junior Rider
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CDrake wrote:
Infernoss wrote:
@CDrake, thanks for the info. Gives me hope that it will be allright for me aswell. Not that far in the season yet however. Good to know that the riderstatus does change and this will satisfy the sponsors. Hope that I can keep Ewan .
Did you tried to sign other major riders? Just wondering how hard this is. Probably want to get rid of Chaves and some old riders to make room for a better cobblestone rider (my sponsor wants to win in that area....). Still have the yates brothers for next season to contest in the major tours.
Actually I tried to sign Ewan, but he was too expensive for my team, and there are similar riders available for much less. From the negotiations, I think he would have wanted around 65k which I just couldn't afford without releasing more other riders. He now signed with BMC for 63k
Edit: I might try to replace Dumoulin with Landa though next season who seems to be roughly 40k cheaper than Dumoulin. He's also been on fire this season:
https://ibb.co/fd...
I realized top drivers are much harder to sign if you already have a similar driver. Like people like Froome for example complained about having their "rival" Dumoulin in the same team, when I tried to negotiate with them. The acceptance bar only went from red to yellow when I was ready to massively overspend.
So I guess you can't just hire 20 80+ riders, but that seems to be realistic to me.
Wow that are some nice results for Landa and Quintana winning individual standings! I really like Ewan. His sprinting is now 85 83....Only his side stats could be some better. But managed to win Milan-San Remo (had some luck with crashes from for example groenewegen and greipel). Still sometimes struggling to time it right when to start sprinting. For example, had an excellent chance to win the dwars door vlaanderen ride with Trentin. However didnt noticed that sprint was a little bit downhill so started way too late...
Now only Paris Roubaix to go, managed to become 7th with trentin (top 10 was sponsor goal  .
Furthermore have to win the itzulia basque country, which will be hard. And have to figure out how I am going to win the mountain jersey in the Giro. Planning to let either Adam Yates or Chaves loose a lot of time in the first timetrail. But dont know wheter the peleton would still let either of them ride in a breakaway. Any tips?
In the Tour I only have to win a stage, which should be possible with Ewan. And Top 3 vuelta with S.Yates should also be possible .
About the transfers. I am still not sure (still have enough time) to figure out what I want. Either become a contender at the coble stages (van Avermaet is available) or go for the grand tours (dumoulin and Porte are available). |
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| Warhawk |
Posted on 30-07-2018 16:34
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Rosenvold112 wrote:
I'm in my second season with Virtu and just landed a wild card for the Vuelta! It's a lot of fun and the recruitment seems very realistic and tough.
Got a wildcard for the Vuelta in my second season with a custom American team, used the editor to bump up the potential on some of the young guys like McNulty and Owen and give them a couple points here and there head start on their development. Just finished it last night, took a mostly American team outside of Albanese and a young Kazakhstani (McNulty, Owen, Garrison, Dombrowski, Boswell, and Mannion). Route was the 2014 one. We ended up even on time with Sky in the TTT. McNulty was in great form and hung around in the top 5 through the rest day, then crushed the ITT and ended up with almost a 2 minute lead on Froome who had lost some time on an earlier stage. He won stage 11 too but his form trailed off and it was a struggle late since his base attributes probably wouldn't even make him a top 10 climber in the race, even though he's already an elite TTer, lost small amounts of time to Froome and Simon Yates in third on a couple stages. 20th stage was tough and he was just about cooked on the MTF, could have lost several minutes there, but I had Dombrowski in the front group (who was also chasing mountain points) and I had him, who had just hit his peak in the third week, sit up and tow McNulty to the line, and limited his losses enough to go into the stage 21 short ITT with just a 4 second lead on Froome. Froome won the ITT. McNulty was second.
By 3 seconds.
As long as I play I'll probably never see another 1 second GT victory.
Oh, and Dombrowski won the mountain classification, although that was more luck than skill, a lot of breaks stayed away in the mountains so a lot of MTF points got eaten up by random dudes and the 2014 route didn't offer a ton of points in the middle of the stages, one of the only stages that did he happened to go into with max RDC and he basically won the jersey with a single day's work when he'd only been able to nab a couple points here and there before that, and it was a good idea anyway because I can recall at least 3 separate occasions where I had him sit up on an MTF and shepherd McNulty in to a good placing on MTFs.
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| WaraM |
Posted on 30-07-2018 18:05
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Pretty sure the "no interest" problem with top riders has something to do with databases. I switched dbs and got rid of this issue, now i just have to figure out how can i use my full payroll from next year because the game is checking my current max which is 160k below... |
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