Arberg wrote:
Froome wins by Tour, Vuleta and about a month Giro...
Porte no victories and no podium, has almost as good a stats

MartijnVDD wrote:

Did you really already forget his horror crash in last year's Tour???

Tafiolmo wrote:

he was the best climber of the season up until his crash in the Tour

AiZaK wrote:
Currently what do you think about SCHACHMANN stats???

jeremyrobin wrote:
Little up for Johnatan Cañaveral ?

https://www.procy...-canaveral

Forever the Best wrote:
Nico Denz should have an upgrade in MO and DH.

jeremyrobin wrote:
Bernal : 72clm>68 same level than Pinot in Time Trial with 72
Landa : 72clm>70 same level than Pinot in Time Trial with 72
Meintjes : 79rec>75 he is anonymous in Giro
Alaphillipe : 76mon>75, 72rec>69, 72clm>70 same level than Pinot in Time Trial with 72 and he gets poorly on one-week races and limited in the mountains
Pantano : 77mon>76
Ravasi : 64end<67
Hindley : 64end<66
Trofimov : 75mon<72, 75val<72val, 73end<70, 73rec<70
Barta : 73mon<71

marcoplv95 wrote:
I think we all are waiting that Giro ends before take any conclusion

Tafiolmo wrote:


Main question at the moment is whether to have Yates on 80 or 81 mtn depending on the outcome of the final stages. He's a rider of high res as well because once he attacks he can keep it going to the end.

At the moment Chaves is 79 mtn to give Yates team leadership if selected together. I think Yates definitely worth one mtn point more but not sure if worth two.

I think the other GT riders are pretty much statted unless there is a surprise in the last three stages. No point doing Froome until the Tour.

Did lots of TT stats today for the GC riders with the exception of Aru of course

As for what to give Aru in TT I've no idea, this rider is one of the mysteries in cycling and so unpredictable.

Last week is usually about doing the rec stat for most of the riders.

marcoplv95 wrote:


About Yates he's doing something incredible at the Giro and considering he's outclassing Froome (82) and has less TT, less REC and everything else, he could deserve 82 too (i don't think Froome came to Giro just for Tour, otherwise could have keep doing the same schedule that gave him 4 tours)...but...at such high values i think it's risky to upgrande more than 2 stats, so i'd give 80 however this giro ends (unless he win with 5 minutes lead ) and upgrade more in REC depending on last stages. Then we'll see if he keeps this form and won't be Kruijwswijk 2.0.
I'm just sure he can't be on the same level of Bernal, too overhyped. He didn't contend against best climbers on GTs this year

I don't think Chaves deserves to be better than Aru right now (i know that he's unlucky but we should base on performance), i'd switch their REC value

Yates 78 ACC maybe, Dumoulin 80TT 79PR, Dennis 76/or 77(?)MO 80TT 81PR
Pozzovivo is slightly better than Pinot actually so 80 could be fair and 77 rec.

Aru's performance today was too f*****g stunning, he could never come 20" behind Dumoulin 81TT (-5 daily form) with his 70TT (+5 daily form), take that in mind, also 2'45" better than Pinot who has 71, i think that 72TT/68PR fits him right especially if we see Chaves too 71...
And Froome is only 76TT because he's GC contender right?

That's all for now, we have so much to talk about

Tafiolmo wrote:


Froome will stay at 82 until the Tour but this Giro has ridden like a 78-80 mtn rider and only change for him has been a 1 decrease in hill so far.

Yates actually has higher hill and acc than Froome and same RES so if he's an 80 he will be a very powerful 80. Also He is a stronger80 than Bernal who imo is a defo 80 but since he has achieved this outside a GT he will have lower backup stats thus making Yates a stronger 80 but as said there is a possibility that Yates could finish on 81 even though I prefer 80.

I still think Pinot is worth 80 but will be a weaker 80 due to other lowered stats and Pozzovivo a stronger 79 as some of his other stats are good. Pinot at least has been willing to work with Tom D to bring back Yates whereas Pozzovivo less so and this is where he has saved strength

Chave and Aru will both be 79. Chaves has been affected by sickness which is sad for the stats and Aru so unpredictable to stat but will keep working on him. You mention that his rec should be lowered but he still finished very highly at the last Tour which is still relevant for the stats.

I don't think that TOm D should have TT reduced for gaming purposes I remember when I played my last Giro with his 79 mtn he struggled to stay with the 81 riders like Nibali in the mtns even his res and tt couldn't bridge the gap in the stage or TT. Therefore his RES was increased even higher and TT should be kept high.

Dennis I think a clear 76 at least now but 77 a possibility. Thomas iis 77 mtn right now and a similar rider would he be riding better than Dennis if he were in the Giro? I may change Dennis TT as you stated to 1 more TT and 1 less pro but will see.

Also for in- game purposes when Tom D won the Giro he would've entered the Giro in top pre race form but this Giro his game form would've been lower unless of course he improves in the final 3 stages.

Also worth considering and something that can't be recreated in game, is that Yates has taken advantage of bad tactics from his rivals and that has really helped him.