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| jandal7 |
Posted on 12-04-2018 07:07
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AbhishekLFC wrote:
Will the riders we sign increase in age by a year next season when we get to use them? Will they get the year-end stat increase that all other (eligible) riders get in the off-season?
Yes and no.
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| Ripley |
Posted on 12-04-2018 07:44
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Will they get the year-end stat increase that all other (eligible) riders get in the off-season?
That was I question I wanted to ask and had forgotten again. It makes sense to me that these are the starting stats next season.
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| jaxika |
Posted on 12-04-2018 07:50
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Ripley wrote:
Will they get the year-end stat increase that all other (eligible) riders get in the off-season?
That was I question I wanted to ask and had forgotten again. It makes sense to me that these are the starting stats next season.
These are the starting stats and ages in the next years DB. |
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| DaveTwoBob |
Posted on 12-04-2018 20:52
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jandal7 wrote:
D2B, I'll pay you all the money in the world for "Salif Mane" <3
Unlucky in Grand Tours, lucky in scouting 
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| Bikex |
Posted on 12-04-2018 22:15
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jandal7 wrote:
D2B, I'll pay you all the money in the world for "Salif Mane" <3
I thought you'd like him. 
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Ages are the current ages, so will be +1 in next season's db. Stats stay the same.
There will be a chance to get rid of some riders during transfers. Will cost you something though. Maybe I'll make it cheaper than before, because several teams seem to have signed lots of crap due to the new scouting system. |
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| Ripley |
Posted on 12-04-2018 22:27
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Pah, that's their fault. I didn't sign anybody terrible. Ok, I didn't sign anybody. But that's because all the riders I found were terrible.
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| Croatia14 |
Posted on 12-04-2018 22:29
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Ripley wrote:
Pah, that's their fault. I didn't sign anybody terrible. Ok, I didn't sign anybody. But that's because all the riders I found were terrible.
this - teams had to deal with crap like this in the past (Santos, SAP, Leopard, CSC,...) as well
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| Shonak |
Posted on 12-04-2018 22:30
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I also think that every team should stick with the riders they have signed. In fact, it may lead to abuse if it doesn't have consequences.
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| Shonak |
Posted on 12-04-2018 22:32
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Croatia14 wrote:
Ripley wrote:
Pah, that's their fault. I didn't sign anybody terrible. Ok, I didn't sign anybody. But that's because all the riders I found were terrible.
this - teams had to deal with crap like this in the past (Santos, SAP, Leopard, CSC,...) as well
Weird examples bc all of those teams had multiple top talents, too. 
"It’s a little bit scary when Contador attacks." - Tommy V
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| Bikex |
Posted on 12-04-2018 22:34
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Sacking riders has always been possible during transfers, this isn't anything new.  |
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| jandal7 |
Posted on 12-04-2018 23:40
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Croatia14 wrote:
Ripley wrote:
Pah, that's their fault. I didn't sign anybody terrible. Ok, I didn't sign anybody. But that's because all the riders I found were terrible.
this - teams had to deal with crap like this in the past (Santos, SAP, Leopard, CSC,...) as well
Yeah in reality I absolutely think we/they should have to keep (or sack with the cost) the signed riders - that's the risk and fun of the scouting.
24/02/21 - kandesbunzler said “I don't drink famous people."
15/08/22 - SotD said "Your [jandal's] humour is overrated"
11/06/24 - knockout said "Winning is fine I guess. Truth be told this felt completely unimportant."
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| Ripley |
Posted on 13-04-2018 08:49
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Of course sacking should be possible, I was just wondering about making it cheaper. I was open enough to announce that I only bid on one rider in this round, which was meant as a sort of... warning/recommendation, don't be fooled by a couple of positive impressions and don't expect that a rider's real AVG will be at the top end of the range. That's gambling and if you do that, you can win or lose.
Maybe next season I'd like to see individual scouting to be more efficient. It took me two rounds of investigating just one rider to fully reveal his AVG and pot with a maxed out scout, after 10 rounds I guess I'll only have fully scouted two or three riders.
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 13-04-2018 14:32
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Ripley wrote:
Maybe next season I'd like to see individual scouting to be more efficient. It took me two rounds of investigating just one rider to fully reveal his AVG and pot with a maxed out scout, after 10 rounds I guess I'll only have fully scouted two or three riders.
I disagree, i like this scouting system. It forces more complexity and choice. Do i spend time scouting a small number to get the most information on them, or do i spread my resources and cover more riders in less detail. It makes a really nice balance, and encourages you to either be really specific and detailed on specific areas or to invest heavily in scouting to get lots of detail.
Even with one scout if i got all information in one round i could fully scout 27 riders which is, i feel, a lot. Especially if you buy packs giving you specific high potential riders.
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| Ollfardh |
Posted on 13-04-2018 14:33
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I really like this new system as well!
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
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| Shonak |
Posted on 13-04-2018 15:16
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I think the system works really well so far and that the amount of information is just about right and I am a big fan of it. In fact, it encourages greater investment from the teams next season, which I think is only good because far too little money has been invested in scouting in the past, myself included.
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| jaxika |
Posted on 13-04-2018 15:37
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Im a big fan of this system, efficient and entertain too. Thats my shame that i bidded so wrong |
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| fjhoekie |
Posted on 13-04-2018 15:43
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Yep system is fine, I got pretty damn lucky again with a minimal budget, just like last year... Is a good way to keep interest over the course of a season as well, which is good to see.
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| Bikex |
Posted on 13-04-2018 21:22
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Thanks for everyone sending me their new bids within the deadline. Here is the updated DB: https://www.mediafire.com/file/xd23kcf...sDB18.xlsx
Sorry about Zappino trekbmc, that was a really close one. You probably still are happy with your result.
Now you can update your Scouting Sheets again, I'll send you updated reports tomorrow.
Sorry for posting no Vuelta stage today will also do that tomorrow! |
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| Ollfardh |
Posted on 13-04-2018 21:34
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Excellent! Probably overpayed some riders by quite a lot, but I got some nice talents
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
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| nacho63 |
Posted on 13-04-2018 21:38
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That's scouting business done for PostNL, very happy with my riders |
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