Please make sure you have read and understand these rules. You will not be allowed to participate in the transfers other-wise. There are a few new small rules, so it is vital to read everything, even if you have done transfers - or do not think a section is relevant to you.
You should constantly update your team transfer sheet with all transfer dealings, to help ensure you do not go over budget.
Transfers Forums
There are four Transfers forums:
[Man-Game] Transfers: Free Agents
For free agents, stagiares and sackings.
[Man-Game] Transfers: Trades and Loans
For posting about selling/loaning a rider, negotiations, and then deal confirmation threads.
[Man-Game] Transfer Discussion
To discuss the transfers but also to post team transfer HQs where you can advertise your sales.
[Man-Game] Transfers: Completed Trades
Once trades or loans have been sealed, their threads will be moved here.
Types of Transfer
There are 5 types of transfers that you can be involved in:
- Free Agent bidding
- Stagiare bidding
- Trades between teams
- Loans
- Sackings
Free Agent bidding
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With Free Agents, you are bidding on the wage you wish to pay the rider. It will therefore all come out of your salary cap.
1. To make a bid for a rider, you must first use the forum search function to find if a bid has already been made on him. Search for a rider's full name - including any accents.
2. If a bid hasn't been made, then you should open a new thread. The thread title must be correctly named with "[Free Agent]" followed by the name of the rider you wish to make a bid on, including the accents on letters. If the rider name is incorrect then the thread is invalid. Suggestion: Copy a rider's name directly from the database.
3. When making a free agent bid, state your full team name and the wage you wish to offer the rider.
4. All free agents have a minimum wage of 50,000.
5. To make a counter-bid on a free agent you must reply in the same thread, with your team name and your bid. There is a minimum allowed increase.
6. The winner of the free agent will be the highest bidder after a 48 hour period with no bids.
7. You should not be bidding on a rider if you dont want them. If you are leading the bidding on a rider and change your mind and dont want him, you are not allowed to try to convince someone else to outbid you. This includes making posts suggesting that you have made your last bid on the rider.
8. Do not attempt to influence any other team. Even if you are trying to be helpful. You should only do something if you believe they have broken a transfer rule. Do NOT attempt to stop someone bidding on a rider.
9. Not important how to do this! No telling other ones, that you are going to outbid them! Don`t suggest alternative riders! Don`t offer an incentive - such as a loan or trade deal!
10. Those two rules (8./9.) include attempting to make arrangement to not bid on certain riders, in order to avoid competition! This is NOT allowed neither. Bidding can be discussed in the Transfer Discussion - as long as you are not ettempting to influence future actions!
11. It is your responsibility to ensure that all of your bids are valid. If you have not included your full team name in your bid, or if the increase amount is below the minimum allowed, then it will not count - and the 48 hour count will be running of the previous highest valid bid. You must send mangame-admin a personal message to show that you have read the rules.
12. A rider signed as a free agent cannot be traded or loaned out. The only exception is if their Level/XP is less than 4.100, in which case they can be loaned out. If you change your mind on a free agent signing, your only option is to sack them.
13. There are limits on the number of bids you can make each day, see below.
Bid Limits
There are limits on how many free agent bids you can make during a 'British' day. (Time offset of 0 in the PCM.daily Profile page)
1. You may not bid on more than 8 different riders
2. You may not make more than a total of 20 bids across all riders in a single day
Bidding Patterns: Minimum Increase
Each time you bid either for a free agent or in a transfer, you must increase the last offer by the following amount as a minimum:
€50,000 - €100,000
€5,000 increase
€100,000 - €300,000
€10,000 increase
€300,000 - €1,000,000
€20,000 increase
€1,000,000 +
€50,000 increase
As an example, if the previous bid is 99,000, the minimum bid increase is 104,000. But if the previous bid is 100,000, then the minimum bid increase is 110,000.
1. For the last days of the transfer period (see transfer time line) it will be possible to buy up to 4 Stagiares for your team.
2. They must be riders born in 1994 or later, and have a minimum wage of just 10,000.
3. A stagiare has 15 race days, regardless of average, and will be able to be selected in teams from August onwards as also in all U23 events.
4. PCT stagiares will get to ride C2 races in any month of the year.
5. In terms of bidding process for Stagiares, there can be multiple bids, with the minimum increase of 5,000 - but once the price reaches 50,000 he becomes a full free agent transfer and not a stagiare.
6. They will count as half a rider in terms of the minimum rider count - but you still can't have more than 30 (for PT/PCT) or 20 (for CT) combined riders/stagiares.
There are two types of threads regarding this type of transfer: [Transfer] and [Deal].
The [Transfer] thread is where you can advertise that a particular rider is for sale, and seek offers on him. Only 1 rider is allowed per [Transfer] thread. You are allowed to make a Transfer Centre thread in the Transfers Discussion forum to advertise your different [Transfer] and [Loan] threads (and desperately plea for them to receive attention).
1. You can only open a thread for a transfer if you own the rider. If you want to buy a rider from another team, contact them via the transfers discussions sub-forum, or via PM (preferred)
2. Thread title must contain "[Transfer]" followed by the name of the rider who you want to sell.
3. Any person can then come in with bids for transfers on that rider. They may do this either on the thread, or by PM.
When you are ready to agree a trade then a [Deal] thread must be made.
1. The thread must contain "[Deal]" followed by the full name(s) of the rider(s) involved in the trade.
2. If this is a rider swap deal involving riders from both teams then either team can open the thread. For a rider sale deal, only the person who currently owns the rider may open the thread.
3. The opening post of the thread should contain the full details of the deal by clearly defining the 'In' and 'Out' information for both teams involved. The creator of the thread should also include a line of confirmation for their team.
4. The other team involved must then respond to the thread, including the full details of the trade and the confirmation for their team.
5. A 24 hour countdown will begin once both teams have confirmed the trade.
6. It is not possible to withdraw from a deal, once it has been made.
7. During the 24 hour countdown, any team can still make a better offers for any of the riders involved.
8. If the rider's owner decides to accept a higher offer, then a new confirmation post must be made - containing the details of the new deal. If other riders become involved in a new deal, then a new thread must be made. Make sure to post a link to the new thread in the old thread to ensure the initial one is not mistakenly confirmed.
9. Both teams in the new deal must confirm the deal before the original 24 hours have expired, using the correct confirmation format.
10. Once 24 hours from the deal being confirmed by both sides passes, the deal is made permanent.
11. Riders transferred will receive no wage increase - the team the rider is transferred to will now pay the wage of the rider
12. A rider can only be involved in a maximum of 2 transfers. Once a rider leaves a team, he cannot return to the team. This also includes with loans. However a rider who was signed as a free agent this transfers cannot be traded.
13. No rider can be traded for 0€. For riders of 100.000€ wage or less, minimum rider transfer fee is their wage!
For riders with more than 100.000€ wage, minimum transfer fee is 100.000€.
There are two types of threads regarding this type of transfer: [Loan] and [Loan Deal].
The [Loan] thread is where you can advertise that a particular rider is for sale, and seek offers on him. This works in the same format as the [Transfer] threads.
Once a deal is confirmed then a new [Loan Deal] thread must be made. The same rules for [Deal] threads apply to [Loan Deal] threads.
However, a [Loan Deal] thread may only contain 1 rider.
1. Loans can only last for a year
2. A rider can only be loaned once. A rider cannot be loaned out by a team if they already have him on loan.
3. The salary of a rider being loaned can either by paid in full by one of the teams, or be split.
4. You are allowed to put certain clause on loans. e.g. Rider must ride at least 50 race days, must gain an XP level, must ride a GT etc The team that you are loaning the rider to must then follow the these terms. A clause demanding a rider go from Level 1 to Level 3 - or use an equivalently large amount of race days - is not allowed.
5. Remember, that for a free agent that you have signed this transfer season, you may only loan them out if their XP level is less than 4.100.
Loan Fees
Level 1 and 2 riders:
The loaning in team will never pay a transfer fee.
The loaning out team will pay a transfer fee that is at minimum the amount of salary cap that the loaning in team is using up. They can of course pay more.
All other riders:
There are different kind of wage sharing for those kind of riders as seen in the examples below.
Examples:
If Team A pays the wage in full, Team B has a minimum transfer fee of the value of the wage
If the wage is being split 50/50, the transfer fee is up to the two teams involved (it can be nothing). There is no minimum transfer fee.
If Team A and Team B share the wage, but not 50/50, then the transfer fee can only be the difference between wages paid.
e.g. Team A pays 40k and Team B pays 10k, then Team B needs to pay 30k fee to Team A.
Loan Cap
All teams have a loan cap of 200,000. This is the amount of wage from riders you are 'linked' to which you are not paying. A few examples are:
Your team loans in a rider with a 50,000 wage and you are not paying any of that wage: 50,000 of your loan cap is used up.
Your team loans in a rider with a 50,000 wage and you are paying all of the wage: None of your loan cap is used up.
You loan out a rider with a 250,000 wage, and are still paying 100,000 of his wage: 150,000 of your loan cap is used up
Exemption: If you only use your loan cap on one rider, and this rider is a Level 1 rider, you may exceed the loan cap.
Example:
Let's say I buy Mads Kaggestad for 600k. The exemption allows Kaggestad to be loaned out to a team, so long as Kaggestad is the only rider that team uses its loan cap on. The loaned in team could pay a maximum 200k of Kaggestad' wage. So whatever happens I would have to pay at least 400k of Kaggestad' wage.
No [Deal] or [Loan Deal] thread may be posted during the first 36 hours of the transfer period.
If you have a rider who you do not want, and are unable to sell, you are able to sack them. The thread title must start with "[Sack]" followed by the name of the rider. The rider then becomes a free agent. and other teams can bid on the rider - but you cannot.
Fines
There is of course a fine involved with sacking a rider.
For the first rider that you sack, the fine is equal to that rider's wage.
For the second rider that you sack, the fine is equal to two times that rider's wage.
For the third rider that you sack, the fine is equal to three times that rider's wage. And so on.
Please note: You can not sack any riders in the final 48 hours of the transfer period. When proving to have read the rules, put your team name into the message.
Other Important Rules
Transfers Tax
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This was introduced 2015 as an important change. It is automatically calculated in your transfer sheet.
This is a tax that will be applied to the income that teams receive through rider trades or loans.
A team's total income from transfers will be taxed at the following rates:
Less than 500,000: No tax
500,000 - 1,000,000: 10% tax
1,000,000+: 20% tax
Examples to show how this works:
Grupo Nutresa had an income of 85,000 last year. They would pay no tax.
Metinvest had an income of 500,000 last year. They would pay no tax.
Vesuvio had an income of 910,000 last year.
The first 500,000 is untaxed. The remaining 410,000 is taxed at 10%, so Vesuvio would pay a tax of 41,000.
Simply Red Bull had an income of 4,900,000 last year.
The first 500,000 is untaxed. The next 500,000 is taxed at 10%, which is a tax of 50,000. The remaining 3,900,000 is taxed at 20%, which is a tax of 780,000. Therefore Simply Red Bull would pay a total tax of 830,000.
General Rules
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1. You must end the transfer season without exceeding your salary cap (3.5 million for ProTour teams, 2.5 million for ProContinental teams, 1.2 million for Continental teams). If you are over, you will lose at least 1 of your best riders. The same applies to the overall budget and loan cap.
2. Bids cannot be withdrawn. If you bid on a rider and later regret it, then tough. For this reason, you are unable to edit posts or topics in the Transfers forum.
3. No comments are allowed in the Transfer sub-forum. Negotiations are allowed. Use the Transfer discussion sub-forum to discuss any part of the transfers.
4. ProTour and ProContinental Teams must finish the transfers with a minimum of 20 riders and a maximum of 30 riders. For Continental teams this is a minimum of 15 and a maximum of 20. Riders loaned to another team do not count to this, while Stagiares only count as half a rider
5. Managers with 2 teams are allowed to trade between their teams - but only if there is no suspicion of the deal being biased, and only if no other teams offers higher - but they cannot loan riders.
6. Tell us before you go away for a period greater than 48 hours. Bidding can be made on your behalf, to keep your targets available for when you return.
7. Your team`s Nation might not play a role in transfers, but it does in your rules mssage where it should be included.
8. Do not post to say that a 24 or 48 hour period has been completed. We will close and confirm transfers after they have been completed as soon as possible. By commenting on it, it will take another 24 or 48 hours before we confirm it.
9. Suspicious activity or foul play is not allowed. You can and will be punished if you do such a thing. We reserve the right to disqualify bids from a manager on a certain rider, to prevent deliberately antagonising bids.
10. You are not allowed to suggest that another manager should bid on, or look at, a certain rider in the first week of transfers. In the 2nd week of transfers, you can point out a rider only if they have not received any bids. In particular, you should not be sending PMs to other managers to try to get them to bid on riders that some of your rival teams are bidding on, in order to deliberately increase the price.
11. It`s no longer allowed to provide updated DBs mid transfers! All managers have the chance to go through the FA/deal threads themselves. A post transfer DB will be the first DB update.
12. We also reserve the right to add new rules inside the transfers, if somebody is found manipulating the system doing something that 'technically' is allowed, due to not being in the rules initially.
13. Punishment for trying to get around the rules, cheating, being dishonest - be it try to advantage your team or disadvantage someone else - will be severe, and is likely to lead to your removal from this game.
Is FA rule 10 attempting to stop e.g. two teams with similar national interests pre-agreeing to only bid on certain riders from a nation to avoid competing with each other/bidding up, or am I mis-interpreting? Thought that had previously been permitted, so want to clarify I understand. Thanks!
This is about active agreements on such competition avoiding things.
Managers from same Nations/focus will likely automatically share the Nations rider pool rather fairly as there are salary cap restrictions and hence you can`t get them all on your own.
But actively PMing or chatting elsewhere to make some kind of plan for sharing specific riders isn`t allowed.
One thing that shows that it isn`t working is that e.g. Team A and B discuss about Rider A and B and agree. Then Team C comes in and only interested in Rider A. Then Team A and B are having issues again.
Hence not allowed.
OK, so this must be new given that previously well understood to have taken place e.g. very openly by the African focussed teams. In my first Nutresa year also had similar talks with SA neighbours sharing info on some of our own home market targets to 'share out' domestique type FA options (some more receptive than others!!!). Received and understood now frowned upon.
No. First week it's not allowed. Then for remaining days the 2nd week rule counts. Hence from 15th to 17./18.
This was in post a full week, now it's half a week but doesn't matter.
First week is the more important and hence remains a full week.
For those unsure about the exact times in their time zone.
It`s now 8:05 CET (German Time, Italian Time etc.), which means 7:05 British time.
Hence just a bit under 5h from now as it starts 12:00 British time, which is 13:00 CET.
Hope you all did read the rules and are able to use all rules at this time as I won`t be around until 2-3h later. Might maximum check once on mobile.
In case you aren`t sure, read them again before making invalid bids. Keep in mind there is a deadline of 36/48 hours in the beginning. So stay calm and relaxed and behave according to all rules.
5. In terms of bidding process for Stagiares, there can be multiple bids, with the minimum increase of 5,000 - but once the price reaches 50,000 he becomes a full free agent transfer and not a stagiare.
Question: When the bidding hits 50,00 a [Free Agent] thread doesn't need opening? It just gets noted down as a full free agent transfer?
Might be worth a small clarrification in next years rules.
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