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PCM.daily Stats Discussion
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| henrikcomn |
Posted on 17-07-2017 19:25
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Okay thx. So what applies when it comes to recovery through out the season? |
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| AiZaK |
Posted on 17-07-2017 20:35
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Any changes about Esteban Chaves??? He is in the Tour but... he did not do nothing
Do you know if he is ill??? He was amazing in the 2 last Vuelta a España, first tim in le Tour de France, he dinot race in Giro, I dont know whats happen |
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| Martii_Scots01 |
Posted on 17-07-2017 20:38
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AiZaK wrote:
Any changes about Esteban Chaves??? He is in the Tour but... he did not do nothing
Do you know if he is ill??? He was amazing in the 2 last Vuelta a España, first tim in le Tour de France, he dinot race in Giro, I dont know whats happen
He's returning from an injury at the start of the season and isn't in top form currently, though I think he might go into the break on one of the stages in the Alps. |
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| Lamba |
Posted on 17-07-2017 21:17
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AiZaK wrote:
Any changes about Esteban Chaves??? He is in the Tour but... he did not do nothing
Do you know if he is ill??? He was amazing in the 2 last Vuelta a España, first tim in le Tour de France, he dinot race in Giro, I dont know whats happen
I read a headline somewhere that a close friend (or relative) had died just before the tour, which affected him a lot.
Didn't dive into the news though. |
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| Croatia14 |
Posted on 17-07-2017 21:20
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Lamba wrote:
AiZaK wrote:
Any changes about Esteban Chaves??? He is in the Tour but... he did not do nothing
Do you know if he is ill??? He was amazing in the 2 last Vuelta a España, first tim in le Tour de France, he dinot race in Giro, I dont know whats happen
I read a headline somewhere that a close friend (or relative) had died just before the tour, which affected him a lot.
Didn't dive into the news though.
childhood trainer died I guess
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| tobgunn123 |
Posted on 18-07-2017 16:09
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AiZaK wrote:
Any changes about Esteban Chaves??? He is in the Tour but... he did not do nothing
Do you know if he is ill??? He was amazing in the 2 last Vuelta a España, first tim in le Tour de France, he dinot race in Giro, I dont know whats happen
He said himself that he was hete to learn, not perform |
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| frafa11 |
Posted on 18-07-2017 16:58
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Hi guys! Is there an expected date for the update of the database pcmdaily? |
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| Selwink |
Posted on 18-07-2017 17:07
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Posted on 26-11-2024 10:37
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| aldrofj |
Posted on 18-07-2017 17:59
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Selwink wrote:
I don't agree with 74SPR for Venturini. He was after all still outsprinted by Vanmarcke and Korosec, and beating only 1 sprinter with high stats should not be a reason for a big boost I think (unless the rider in question is world class and the race is important). 72SPR 74ACC or so with his other good support stats should still make him good I think.
The other suggestions seem fine. I wouldn't give Korosec much more than 70, but that should still be good for him.
I agree with you, I overvalued Venturini because of his regularity this year, but he effectively didn't beat strong sprinters during Tour of Austria or another race, 72 SP coupled with 74 ACC is fine. |
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| Croatia14 |
Posted on 19-07-2017 09:35
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Currently we are working on a team stats overhaul for the CT stats. This is not only for keeping the stats up to date, but also to create real ranks&relations inside the teams.
So, if anybody has some inside information on a CT team or just follows it closely, please hit me up via PM or post it here. A perfect example for this was a post by Maddox on the first page, which was highly helpful!
Spoiler Maddox wrote:
I just copy-paste my post in here:
Just some thoughts concerning Giant-Castelli
Mikkel Bjerg needs a huge boost in TT and other stats (like 69-70 in TT)
Frederik Rodenberg (for some reason he is called Madsen in the db) needs 69-71 in SP
Rasmus Quaade needs a bit more hill
Mathias Norsgaard needs a boost in TT
Nicklas Amdi Pedersen needs a HUGE boost in especially hill and sp
Casper Pedersen also a huge boost, at least 69 in sp
Thomas Jensen is Thomas Edemann
Rasmus Iversen is Rasmus Byriel
If you were to rank the riders in the team it would be something like (riders in top are the best, so here Quaade is best slightly in front of Casper P and Amdi, then a jump down to Rodenberg and so on...)
Quaade-Casper P-Amdi
Rodenberg-Bjerg-Norsgaard
Vorre-Vinjebo-Folsach-Egholm
Byriel-Therkildsen-Edemann-Bøje
Take a look at PCS to see their results over the season - a general update would be justified.
For other Danish CT teams
Almeborg: Søren Siggard and Morten Hulgaard needs a giant boost. Salby should be 68 or so in so. Martin Toft (not Madsen) is also quite good in hill, Mathias Skov is way better in TT than shown here. Steffen Christiansen may need a little boost.
Toft-Øllegaard-Siggaard-Hulgaard-Lisson
Andreasen-Christiansen-Bigum-Hansen-Salby
Toudal-Skov-Bregnhøj-Hjort
coloQuick: Torkil Veyhe deserves a huge boost (look at PCS). Christien Jørgensen is not Jørgensen but Moberg. Wallin needs a huge boost in SP (69 or so). Vingegaard should be better in mo/hill
Veyhe-Wallin-Vingegaard-Mortensen
Almindsø-Schultz-Klaris-Krigbaum-Schultz
Moberg-Nielsen-Bendixen-Lyhne-Herforth-Hardahl
Riwal: Jonas Gregaard, not Wilsly. Andreas Kron deserves a huge upgrade. Brøchner, Gregaard and Stokbro should get an upgrade, Jonas Aaen (not Jørgensen), Patrick Clausen, Chris Anker Sørensen and Mathias Westergaard should get a little downgrade. Who the hell is Jesper Christensen?
Brøchner-Stokbro-Gregaard-Vinther
Kron-CAS-Clausen-Aaen-Djurhuus
Mygind-Westergaard-Kongstad-Vinkel-Würtz
Veloconcept: Eg derserves an upgrade in mo/hill. Anthon Charmig an upgrade in stage race-stats (he is a huge talent!!!). Otherwise great job.
Kamp-Guldhammer
Asgreen-Carbel-Eg-Reihs
Charmig-Larsen-Steen
Pedersen-Rahbek-Jeppsen-Riis
I know my stat suggestions are a little unprecise, but my ranking should be a great starting point in terms of definating the strength between the riders in the team. Moreover, I can make a ranking between all riders from the Danish CT teams?
Also, keep in mind that when I write Casper Pedersen should get an increase in SP, I also mean the associated stats.
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| Jorge14 |
Posted on 19-07-2017 09:56
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Chaves i think its hurt on the knee too, he did race too less this year.
Maybe on the vuelta he will apear on top form. |
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| Arberg27 |
Posted on 19-07-2017 18:08
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I've just directed a big mistake for you, so you're not going to look stupid out  |
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| aldrofj |
Posted on 20-07-2017 13:37
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Suggestions about UKYO :
 Jon Aberasturi is one of the best sprinters in asian races. He is able to beat Canola, Marini, Grosu. I think he deserves more than 70 SP, maybe 72, with something like 68-69 PR.
 Nathan Earle needs a buff in MO, 65 is too low according to his performance during Tour of Japan ( https://www.procyc...17_Stage_6 ). He was also 6th in Willunga Hill during Tour Down Under, and 7th in Falls Creek during Herald Sun Tour. He was also really strong during Tour de Lombok. Something like 69-70 MO and 71-72 HIL should be better.
Oscar Pujol should receive a little buff in HIL and PR. He also deserves better than 61 SP, maybe around 64-65.
Benjamin Prades deserves a little buff in PR too.
 Yoshimitsu Hiratsuka deserves a global buff, he is one of the strongest teammates. Around 67 RY, 65 MO, 67 VAL, 65 SP correspond to his capacities. |
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| Croatia14 |
Posted on 20-07-2017 14:21
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thanks a lot  just pushed Aberasturis stats to 72 sprint 68 Prologue before reading this  will have a look on the others now too
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| ferko |
Posted on 20-07-2017 14:26
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Sagan hill 77 or 78? |
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| Paul23 |
Posted on 20-07-2017 15:21
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Max 77
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| Arberg27 |
Posted on 20-07-2017 19:36
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M0:
82: Froome (much better TT, DH, FL and teammates) Porte, Quintana
81: Bardet, Aru, Landa, Poels
80: Nibali, Contador, Uran, Pinot, Chaves
79: Barguil, Martin, Valverde, Dumoulin, Zakarin, Thomas, Majka, Fuglsang
78: 2xYates, Meintjes, Mollema, Pozzovivo, Jungels, Kruijswijk, Moreno, Nieve
SP:
82: Kittel
81: Cavendish
80: Greipel, Gaviria, Ewan
79: Sagan, Démare, Bouhanni,
78: Kristoff, Degenkolb, Coquard, Matthews, EBH
Edited by Arberg27 on 20-07-2017 19:47
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| Reveille |
Posted on 20-07-2017 19:40
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I think Fuglsang and Chaves should both be higher. Fuglsang was doing quite well before his crash, and Chaves is not in form yet due to not having the training time. The man did podium two GT last year. He at minimum should have the same stat as Contador. |
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| Forever the Best |
Posted on 20-07-2017 19:41
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Poels 81? 
Moreno 78?
And these are just the obivous ones... (there are a few more ones that I disagree with)
The user formerly known as 'The Schleck Fan'
Gracias Alberto.
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| Selwink |
Posted on 20-07-2017 19:42
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Ooh I see some people did not see Arberg before in this thread
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