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Flanders Classics 2017 - DDV/E3/G-W/Panne-Koksijde
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| Paul23 |
Posted on 27-03-2017 02:35
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Ollfardh wrote:
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Kalach wrote:
Hmm :/ but i understand sagan and what he intended to do. Though it did not go as he expected...GVA did not care about nothing and just won thats nice. But maybe he should say thank you to sagan because he is right when he said that he had decided who win this race
I find that very insulting to GVA. One could just as easily say Sagan was just too scared to sprint against Van Avermaet again.
Terpstra being a dick as well as an idiot again. No surprises there.
I find that very insulting to Terpstra. You only heard that he spat on someone. From someone who heard, that someone said that.
Your opinion is valued greatly on this forum. Please, tell us more about what a nice guy Terpstra is!
Don't be childish and make this personal. Because of my different political opinion, I'm not a bad person with bad opinions wherever I go. I also don't ridicule you everywhere, only because you actually think that I'm a nazi. Look past the Horizon, mate.
Back on topic, let's not make this political. There's other threads for that. It's obvious, that you don't like Terpstra. I mean you only shoot against Terpstra, although I couldn't find any news on him spitting on someone. The only thing where I saw it, was in this thread right here. No news page is telling such a story. But you shoot against him, but not against f.e. Sagan, who rammed someone of the road....which was seen on TV.
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| Forever the Best |
Posted on 27-03-2017 05:03
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Shonak wrote:
Kalach wrote:
Hmm :/ but i understand sagan and what he intended to do. Though it did not go as he expected...GVA did not care about nothing and just won thats nice. But maybe he should say thank you to sagan because he is right when he said that he had decided who win this race
There is no reason really why olympic champion Gold Van Avermaet should say thanks to Sagan for anything. It was Sagan's own fault he lost this race.
GVA is ready for De Ronde. He was a few times very close in the past years, just recall 2014 for example. This time he is on his best form to make history.. Imagine: reigning olympic champion winning all 4 major flandriennes classics. He'd be a living legend. Go for gold, Greg! 
Not gonna happen 
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| Forever the Best |
Posted on 27-03-2017 05:04
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Paul23 wrote:
Ollfardh wrote:
Paul23 wrote:
Ollfardh wrote:
Kalach wrote:
Hmm :/ but i understand sagan and what he intended to do. Though it did not go as he expected...GVA did not care about nothing and just won thats nice. But maybe he should say thank you to sagan because he is right when he said that he had decided who win this race
I find that very insulting to GVA. One could just as easily say Sagan was just too scared to sprint against Van Avermaet again.
Terpstra being a dick as well as an idiot again. No surprises there.
I find that very insulting to Terpstra. You only heard that he spat on someone. From someone who heard, that someone said that.
Your opinion is valued greatly on this forum. Please, tell us more about what a nice guy Terpstra is!
Don't be childish and make this personal. Because of my different political opinion, I'm not a bad person with bad opinions wherever I go. I also don't ridicule you everywhere, only because you actually think that I'm a nazi. Look past the Horizon, mate.
Back on topic, let's not make this political. There's other threads for that. It's obvious, that you don't like Terpstra. I mean you only shoot against Terpstra, although I couldn't find any news on him spitting on someone. The only thing where I saw it, was in this thread right here. No news page is telling such a story. But you shoot against him, but not against f.e. Sagan, who rammed someone of the road....which was seen on TV.
Terpstra is such a nice guy that he said Santambrogio was seeking attention when Santambrogio was considering suicide  |
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| DiCyc |
Posted on 27-03-2017 06:09
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Paul23 wrote:
Don't be childish and make this personal. Because of my different political opinion, I'm not a bad person with bad opinions wherever I go. I also don't ridicule you everywhere, only because you actually think that I'm a nazi. Look past the Horizon, mate.
Back on topic, let's not make this political. There's other threads for that. It's obvious, that you don't like Terpstra. I mean you only shoot against Terpstra, although I couldn't find any news on him spitting on someone. The only thing where I saw it, was in this thread right here. No news page is telling such a story. But you shoot against him, but not against f.e. Sagan, who rammed someone of the road....which was seen on TV.
Oh, I forgot my source, sorry. It is this one: https://sport.tv2.dk/cykling/2017-03-2...-i-hovedet (the language is Danish)
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 27-03-2017 07:31
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superider2010 wrote:
gva - not so scary at sprinting and probably likeable in peleton
sagan- can beat sprinters and 1 penny worth in eyes of peleton
You are an idiot Sir...
With that said, what Sagan did was not nice by any means, also his post race comments in his native language that were recorded does not sound very professional. (i ride with mother*uckers, f*ck it,...).
Btw. GVA is such a great rider, hands down the best classics rider in post Boonen/Spartacus era. He does lack super-versatility of Sagan, but in long draining day in the saddle, no one is better than him. Congrats Greg!
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| ringo182 |
Posted on 27-03-2017 07:53
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Well Sagan f*%!d that right up.
In what world is it a good plan to give GVA a 20 second lead in the last 10k. I think GVA has started to get into Sagan's head a bit.
What are the odds on GVA taking Flanders and Roubaix to make it a perfect sweep 
"Ringo is exactly right", Shonak - 8 September 2016
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 27-03-2017 07:55
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Taking also these two on top of his already great year would need a lot of luck, next to great abilities he has.
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| Shonak |
Posted on 27-03-2017 08:04
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I can see him take max one, although I'd love to see him take the double too. The other one will go either to Sagan, especially if it's De Ronde, or perhaps Degenstache at Roubaix.
Can't wait to see the monuments
"It’s a little bit scary when Contador attacks." - Tommy V
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| wackojackohighcliffe |
Posted on 27-03-2017 08:04
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Avin Wargunnson wrote:
superider2010 wrote:
gva - not so scary at sprinting and probably likeable in peleton
sagan- can beat sprinters and 1 penny worth in eyes of peleton
You are an idiot Sir...
With that said, what Sagan did was not nice by any means, also his post race comments in his native language that were recorded does not sound very professional. (i ride with mother*uckers, f*ck it,...).
Btw. GVA is such a great rider, hands down the best classics rider in post Boonen/Spartacus era. He does lack super-versatility of Sagan, but in long draining day in the saddle, no one is better than him. Congrats Greg!
Hey, not just a fanboy...
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| Thatguyeveryonehates |
Posted on 27-03-2017 08:32
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Avin Wargunnson wrote:
superider2010 wrote:
gva - not so scary at sprinting and probably likeable in peleton
sagan- can beat sprinters and 1 penny worth in eyes of peleton
You are an idiot Sir...
With that said, what Sagan did was not nice by any means, also his post race comments in his native language that were recorded does not sound very professional. (i ride with mother*uckers, f*ck it,...).
those comments are from msr
you only saw the last few seconds of the video
there is a longer version of the video where you see its msr
he finished it watched the replay on a tv and then started complaining about alaphilippe and kwiatkowski
so yesterday was not the first race this year that he complains about others
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| Ollfardh |
Posted on 27-03-2017 09:16
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The Schleck Fan wrote:
Paul23 wrote:
Ollfardh wrote:
Paul23 wrote:
Ollfardh wrote:
Kalach wrote:
Hmm :/ but i understand sagan and what he intended to do. Though it did not go as he expected...GVA did not care about nothing and just won thats nice. But maybe he should say thank you to sagan because he is right when he said that he had decided who win this race
I find that very insulting to GVA. One could just as easily say Sagan was just too scared to sprint against Van Avermaet again.
Terpstra being a dick as well as an idiot again. No surprises there.
I find that very insulting to Terpstra. You only heard that he spat on someone. From someone who heard, that someone said that.
Your opinion is valued greatly on this forum. Please, tell us more about what a nice guy Terpstra is!
Don't be childish and make this personal. Because of my different political opinion, I'm not a bad person with bad opinions wherever I go. I also don't ridicule you everywhere, only because you actually think that I'm a nazi. Look past the Horizon, mate.
Back on topic, let's not make this political. There's other threads for that. It's obvious, that you don't like Terpstra. I mean you only shoot against Terpstra, although I couldn't find any news on him spitting on someone. The only thing where I saw it, was in this thread right here. No news page is telling such a story. But you shoot against him, but not against f.e. Sagan, who rammed someone of the road....which was seen on TV.
Terpstra is such a nice guy that he said Santambrogio was seeking attention when Santambrogio was considering suicide
And what he did in Eneco Tour two years ago. The guys basicly a dick. The problem is not that I have a thing against Terpstra, but that Paul is such a Quick Step fanboy. It's not just your political ideas that are onesided, it's your opinion about certain riders/teams as well. So no, this is not about the politics thread, it's about your general forum imput.
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
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| df_Trek |
Posted on 27-03-2017 11:03
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To win RVV you need perfect strategy and timing, and I think GvA is a bit favourite on Sagan for this, btw last year Sagan got it with perfect race against a stronger Cancellara. I think the race is to hard, and this two guys are over the others, without other problems (crasches or mechanical problems) or stupid lacks, I can't see different ways.
Roubaix is another race, you need obviously strategy and timing, but luck is a primary requirement. The race is not so hard too, so other guys like Degenkolb or Kristoff are in the game |
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| bassiii |
Posted on 27-03-2017 11:40
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Stronger Cancellara? Lol |
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| df_Trek |
Posted on 27-03-2017 11:51
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Talking about that day, yes. On Oude Kwaremont he was faster alone by 30/40" then any other rider, but failing timing to follow Sagan attack. |
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| Paul23 |
Posted on 27-03-2017 12:52
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Ollfardh wrote:
The Schleck Fan wrote:
Paul23 wrote:
Ollfardh wrote:
Paul23 wrote:
Ollfardh wrote:
Kalach wrote:
Hmm :/ but i understand sagan and what he intended to do. Though it did not go as he expected...GVA did not care about nothing and just won thats nice. But maybe he should say thank you to sagan because he is right when he said that he had decided who win this race
I find that very insulting to GVA. One could just as easily say Sagan was just too scared to sprint against Van Avermaet again.
Terpstra being a dick as well as an idiot again. No surprises there.
I find that very insulting to Terpstra. You only heard that he spat on someone. From someone who heard, that someone said that.
Your opinion is valued greatly on this forum. Please, tell us more about what a nice guy Terpstra is!
Don't be childish and make this personal. Because of my different political opinion, I'm not a bad person with bad opinions wherever I go. I also don't ridicule you everywhere, only because you actually think that I'm a nazi. Look past the Horizon, mate.
Back on topic, let's not make this political. There's other threads for that. It's obvious, that you don't like Terpstra. I mean you only shoot against Terpstra, although I couldn't find any news on him spitting on someone. The only thing where I saw it, was in this thread right here. No news page is telling such a story. But you shoot against him, but not against f.e. Sagan, who rammed someone of the road....which was seen on TV.
Terpstra is such a nice guy that he said Santambrogio was seeking attention when Santambrogio was considering suicide
And what he did in Eneco Tour two years ago. The guys basicly a dick. The problem is not that I have a thing against Terpstra, but that Paul is such a Quick Step fanboy. It's not just your political ideas that are onesided, it's your opinion about certain riders/teams as well. So no, this is not about the politics thread, it's about your general forum imput.
I'm not a quickstep fanboy. I just like some riders of their team. And yes, it happens pretty often, that people say: "I'm gonna kill myself!", because they are seeking for attention. I'm not sure if it was the same with Santambrogio, but it can be.
"It's not just your political ideas that are onesided"
>Talking about onesided opinions
>thinks everyone who is not left-wing is a nazi
>mfw
But well, I never said, that Niki isn't cocky sometimes, almost every pro rider is. As is Sagan, but still you go after Terpstra after an unapproved comment and not after Sagan when there is actual footage, talking about "onesided opinions".
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| niini |
Posted on 28-03-2017 13:29
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Well i dont think its ok that Terpstra stop relaying in front group 16 k to go while his teammates in chasing group arent working aswell. I think for Sagan it was more about sending message before ronde than winning here.
What happened at Kemmelberg was shitty.
About that video in slovak language, i think everyone who was doing some sport sometimes let steam off immediately after lose and then chilled. |
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| Forever the Best |
Posted on 28-03-2017 14:12
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Paul23 wrote:
Ollfardh wrote:
The Schleck Fan wrote:
[quote][url=https://pcmdaily.com/forum/viewthread.php?thread_id=46939&pid=1228410#post_1228410]
Terpstra is such a nice guy that he said Santambrogio was seeking attention when Santambrogio was considering suicide
And what he did in Eneco Tour two years ago. The guys basicly a dick. The problem is not that I have a thing against Terpstra, but that Paul is such a Quick Step fanboy. It's not just your political ideas that are onesided, it's your opinion about certain riders/teams as well. So no, this is not about the politics thread, it's about your general forum imput.
I'm not a quickstep fanboy. I just like some riders of their team. And yes, it happens pretty often, that people say: "I'm gonna kill myself!", because they are seeking for attention. I'm not sure if it was the same with Santambrogio, but it can be.
"It's not just your political ideas that are onesided"
>Talking about onesided opinions
>thinks everyone who is not left-wing is a nazi
>mfw
But well, I never said, that Niki isn't cocky sometimes, almost every pro rider is. As is Sagan, but still you go after Terpstra after an unapproved comment and not after Sagan when there is actual footage, talking about "onesided opinions".
https://forum.cyclingnews.com/viewtopi...6#p1355756
Check the posts starting from this point. Santamborgio says addio mondo and a few other things on his twitter which suggests that he is considering suicide.
https://forum.cyclingnews.com/viewtopi...4#p1355924
Then, Terpstra says that Santamborgio firstly goes extreme to win then does this to get attention.
Anyone who defends Terpstra in this case is either a blind fan or a troll.
PS: This topic and arguments between users go from page 19 to page 25 |
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| Forever the Best |
Posted on 28-03-2017 14:32
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Great racing in Belgium once again. But the situation is a bit chaotic so not sure who are where. |
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| Forever the Best |
Posted on 28-03-2017 14:35
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Phil Gil and Durbridge in first group, Kristoff in 2nd group. |
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| Ollfardh |
Posted on 28-03-2017 14:36
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Can't watch this one on tv unfortunately, but it does sound promising. I hope the Ardennes guys were watching the cobbles so far and follow their example of active racing.
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
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