ringo182 wrote:
I was going to say the report was absolute rubbish but didn't want to be accused of being a Sky fanboy as usual
It's well established fact that on a flat course the weight of a bike makes very minimal difference to performance and added weight can sometimes aid a rider. Disk wheels are much heavier than regular wheels but are used because the aerodynamics far outweighs the additional weight. My old TT bike used to weigh a ton when compared to my road racing bike. They are designed to go very fast in a straight line on a flat road. Weight isn't an issue.
Also, isn't the whole point of these motors that they are so light that they can't be detected by weighing the bike? So to say that the Sky bikes were a bit heavier is proof of motors is ridiculous, especially if that is the only "evidence".
My question is the weight of the other bikes, if the Sky bikes were actually 800 grams heavier than any of the other TT bikes then that is very strange. Looking at the bikes used in that TTT the Boldie's Sky were on with the kit they were sporting should in noway have been the heaviest bikes on the start line. The BMC's that won that TTT should of come in heavier, the Look Monoblades that Cofidis were using should of been heavier while the Shiv's that Quickstep used should of been around the same weight as the Boldie.
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ringo182 wrote:
I was going to say the report was absolute rubbish but didn't want to be accused of being a Sky fanboy as usual
It's well established fact that on a flat course the weight of a bike makes very minimal difference to performance and added weight can sometimes aid a rider. Disk wheels are much heavier than regular wheels but are used because the aerodynamics far outweighs the additional weight. My old TT bike used to weigh a ton when compared to my road racing bike. They are designed to go very fast in a straight line on a flat road. Weight isn't an issue.
Also, isn't the whole point of these motors that they are so light that they can't be detected by weighing the bike? So to say that the Sky bikes were a bit heavier is proof of motors is ridiculous, especially if that is the only "evidence".
My question is the weight of the other bikes, if the Sky bikes were actually 800 grams heavier than any of the other TT bikes then that is very strange. Looking at the bikes used in that TTT the Boldie's Sky were on with the kit they were sporting should in noway have been the heaviest bikes on the start line. The BMC's that won that TTT should of come in heavier, the Look Monoblades that Cofidis were using should of been heavier while the Shiv's that Quickstep used should of been around the same weight as the Boldie.
Yeah but there is a lot of other equipment that teams add to bikes. None of them are riding off the peg bikes. Many of the bikes are heavily modified. To say that one frame weighs this and another weighs that is one thing. But what about the wheels, the breaks and gears, the tri bars, the radio transmitter systems, the GPS, the motor in the seat tube. It all adds up to mean that riding a light frame doesn't necessarily mean the overall bike will be light or what you would expect.
At the end of the day, everything is gossip and rumour, as it always is. People can always make 1+1 = doping if they use circumstantial evidence, which is what this is at the moment.
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