The last point is exactly why the fight has just began. Democrats and the people have to complain and fight incessantly from now onwards as Republicans are bat shity crazy.
With them having majority in both house and senate only protesting by the people will be only way to stop some of their crazy ideas.
P.S. Just noticed, Avin I haven't lived in Poland for past 9 years so I can say stuff like that Although mind you Trump is a hero to Polish people anyway, Polish love nationalists very much <3
Edited by Alakagom on 15-11-2016 20:13
Alakagom wrote:
P.S. Just noticed, Avin I haven't lived in Poland for past 9 years so I can say stuff like that Although mind you Trump is a hero to Polish people anyway, Polish love nationalists very much <3
Can confirm this, 11 listopada in Warsaw was absolutely terrifying at times. Nothing like a bunch of people in military gear and armbands throwing flares around
Alakagom wrote:
The last point is exactly why the fight has just began. Democrats and the people have to complain and fight incessantly from now onwards as Republicans are bat shity crazy.
With them having majority in both house and senate only protesting by the people will be only way to stop some of their crazy ideas.
Crazy ideas? Or just different ideas to your own?
"Ringo is exactly right", Shonak - 8 September 2016
I'm at work at the moment so can't watch that video. Will have a look later. But...
...is it not democrats currently rioting and acting "Crazy"? According to a report I read a couple of days ago over half the people arrested in the anti-Trump protests didn't vote. Stupidity exists on both sides.
"Ringo is exactly right", Shonak - 8 September 2016
I'm at work at the moment so can't watch that video. Will have a look later. But...
...is it not democrats currently rioting and acting "Crazy"? According to a report I read a couple of days ago over half the people arrested in the anti-Trump protests didn't vote. Stupidity exists on both sides.
I didn't say there's not crazy on both parts. There's no such things as perfect in politics.
But, at least to me the Republican leaders, and especially the people Trump is going to name, seem to have a whole lot more of crazier/outrages ideas/opinions than the Democrats.
I'm at work at the moment so can't watch that video. Will have a look later. But...
...is it not democrats currently rioting and acting "Crazy"? According to a report I read a couple of days ago over half the people arrested in the anti-Trump protests didn't vote. Stupidity exists on both sides.
I didn't say there's not crazy on both parts. There's no such things as perfect in politics.
But, at least to me the Republican leaders, and especially the people Trump is going to name, seem to have a whole lot more of crazier/outrages ideas/opinions than the Democrats.
But it's all a matter of perspective. Half of America voted for Trump and to them the ideas of Hillary C and the Democrats were crazy.
I don't think it's as simple as labelling any political idea you don't agree with as crazy.
I disagree with a lot of what Trump says. But I do understand why large chunks of America voted for him.
"Ringo is exactly right", Shonak - 8 September 2016
Not quite half of America voted for Trump. In fact only 46.8%. He's coming into the presidency with the lowest favourbility rating since the ratings began.
And the ideas of Hillary weren't crazy to most, they didn't vote because her ideas, they voted against her as she's paragon of corruptness and establishment in an election that was all about anti-establishment.
And Ringo, you are wrong. Many Republicans believe global warming is a hoax. Even when the people that study it as their job say otherwise.
This is not fucking matter of perspective, this is about being crazy retarded while being controlled by Koch brothers.
Anyway, at the current rate Hillary is gonna win popular vote by 2m votes. Time to go back to Trump again
The electoral college is a disaster for a democracy.
the Schengen area will probably turn USA junior cause outsiders will need to pay €5 and fill in a online application to enter Schengen
I guess it's better that the $50 dollar live interview which can be declined because you looked at the interviewer funny
Spoiler
schengen area is a free travel range in the following countries: Austria, Belgium, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Italy, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland (excluding Denmark's Greenland and Faroe Islands, France overseas departments, Netherlands's Aruba, Curaçao, Sint Maarten, Caribbean Netherlands, Svalbard, Cueta, Melilla) (including Monaco, San Marino and Vatican City)
Alakagom wrote:
Not quite half of America voted for Trump. In fact only 46.8%. He's coming into the presidency with the lowest favourbility rating since the ratings began.
And the ideas of Hillary weren't crazy to most, they didn't vote because her ideas, they voted against her as she's paragon of corruptness and establishment in an election that was all about anti-establishment.
And Ringo, you are wrong. Many Republicans believe global warming is a hoax. Even when the people that study it as their job say otherwise.
This is not fucking matter of perspective, this is about being crazy retarded while being controlled by Koch brothers.
Anyway, at the current rate Hillary is gonna win popular vote by 2m votes. Time to go back to Trump again
I'm only wrong in your opinion, Which is fine, that's your opinion.
But my statement that not every person who voted for Trump is stupid is a fact which cannot be denied. As you say, many people voted for Trump to go against Hilary, so you're basically supporting my argument there whilst saying I'm wrong.
Your comment about republicans and global warming is a nothing comment based on no fact and impossible to prove correct or false.
My point is that you can't just say a particular political viewpoint is crazy, or that half of a country is stupid because they do not believe the same thing as you.
That's how all the wars and major problems in the World come about.
"Ringo is exactly right", Shonak - 8 September 2016
Alakagom wrote:
Not quite half of America voted for Trump. In fact only 46.8%. He's coming into the presidency with the lowest favourbility rating since the ratings began.
And the ideas of Hillary weren't crazy to most, they didn't vote because her ideas, they voted against her as she's paragon of corruptness and establishment in an election that was all about anti-establishment.
And Ringo, you are wrong. Many Republicans believe global warming is a hoax. Even when the people that study it as their job say otherwise.
This is not fucking matter of perspective, this is about being crazy retarded while being controlled by Koch brothers.
Anyway, at the current rate Hillary is gonna win popular vote by 2m votes. Time to go back to Trump again
I'm only wrong in your opinion, Which is fine, that's your opinion.
But my statement that not every person who voted for Trump is stupid is a fact which cannot be denied. As you say, many people voted for Trump to go against Hilary, so you're basically supporting my argument there whilst saying I'm wrong.
Your comment about republicans and global warming is a nothing comment based on no fact and impossible to prove correct or false.
My point is that you can't just say a particular political viewpoint is crazy, or that half of a country is stupid because they do not believe the same thing as you.
That's how all the wars and major problems in the World come about.
Don't forget that the main 3 reasons to vote for Hillary were also:
-she's a woman
-she's not Trump
-the media said so
It was a vote between 2 bad people. But still I don't get, why people don't try to make the best out of it? We germans do the same with Merkel since around 10 years. If Trump voters would've protested after Hillarys win, nobody would try to justify that. People just need to learn, that different people have different opinions and want to live in different worlds.
I may agree with lot of what Trump said(because it honestly isn't that bad, when you watch his full speeches in context).
He f.e. is against gay marriage, but understands that it's already allowed, so he won't change it. Doesn't seem like a dictator to me. He also wants less war than Hillary, hence the reason the stocks dropped on his election day for big weapon manufacturers.
And about that wall...what's so wrong with that really? He just wants to finally enforce the immigration laws. He is not against blacks, latinos and other minorities. He just want's the illegal, criminal ones out of the country. People don't get that. If you're not illegal and criminal, you won't be in trouble. Also it is funny to note, that most of the americans, who want to go to canada now, will not be able to go there, because they have actual immigration laws. You need to have money, valuable skills, don't be a criminal and it takes over 10 years to get fully integrated, whilst you need to check in the migration office every week. And canada is not labeled as racist, the last time I checked.
I know that most people here, don't care what I say, because I'm labeled as a nazi already. But I can assure you, that everyone who thinks, that I'm actually a nazi, just makes a fool out of himself(and sadly, out of the people who had to deal with the real nazis). I'm just conservative, and it clearly shows, that no side deserves to be discriminated. Everyone has different opinions, which is totally fine, but it seems like it's not fine for the left, as we're currently seeing in america. And it doesn't just show in the USA. It even shows here on daily. I got kicked out of the db team, for my opinion, for example. That's how tolerant some people seem to be.
What most people don't get, is that shouting at people, attacking them or labeling them as dumb nazis will not change their opinion. If you really think that you're smarter, then proove it, by arguing calmly, instead of trying to discredit people because of their opinion. Enlighten them, so to say. But don't expect them to change instantly. Don't get mad, when they keep their standpoint. All the time I hear: "All individuals are different!!!" and at the same time, people get mocked, because their opinion is different as well...
My problem probably is, that I care too much. I argue too much. I am not afraid to stand by my opinion. I don't change it frequently. Sometimes, I think i could be proud of this, but all the death messages I recieve on a daily basis on the internet let me feel different. And I care too much about this as well.
But there's one thing, I stopped caring about. If you call me a racist or a nazi or whatever similar to that is. It just shows that you've got no idea, what a nazi or a racist is.
Sorry for that little rant, but I got to get this off my chest, because, like I said, I probably care too much. You can dislike this post as much as you want. I don't give a fuck.
A tweet by Donald Trump is not evidence that millions of Americans believe global warming if a hoax.
The point is that it doesn't take millions to believe that, just the select few who make up those relevant governmental positions. And the fact that someone like that can be voted is quite a good showing of evidence that people are idiots.
A tweet by Donald Trump is not evidence that millions of Americans believe global warming if a hoax.
The point is that it doesn't take millions to believe that, just the select few who make up those relevant governmental positions. And the fact that someone like that can be voted is quite a good showing of evidence that people are idiots.
But that is the point. You can't just assume that people are stupid because they believe something different to you. That is the whole problem.
By that thinking anyone of a different religion is stupid.
"Ringo is exactly right", Shonak - 8 September 2016
A tweet by Donald Trump is not evidence that millions of Americans believe global warming if a hoax.
The point is that it doesn't take millions to believe that, just the select few who make up those relevant governmental positions. And the fact that someone like that can be voted is quite a good showing of evidence that people are idiots.
But that is the point. You can't just assume that people are stupid because they believe something different to you. That is the whole problem.
By that thinking anyone of a different religion is stupid.
But global warming is not something that you believe or not. It's a fucking fact.
Although mind you Trump is a hero to Polish people anyway, Polish love nationalists very much <3
