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| Dusen |
Posted on 23-07-2016 11:12
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Waghlon wrote:
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I fear for the future, if we suddenly have two sides who are eager to kill innocent people based on their color and belief 
Suddenly? Are we forgetting Breivik, or more recently the very much racially motivated shootings of police officers in USA?
And even without that, right-wingers have always been eager to kill. They have just done a lot less than you'd expect.
The US and EU is two different things. Beside Breivik there has been quite a few years with no terror attacks commited, the US is a different matter altogether.  |
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| cio93 |
Posted on 23-07-2016 11:25
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So much for the neo-nazis. Much surprise. (actually quite sad how many 'wanted' the perpetrators to be far right wing group) Whoever made that rumour had eureka, some people actually fell for it
I wonder what the excuse the newspapers will bring tomorrow, I'm pretty damn sure it's gonna be bullied and mentally unstable. But we'll see.
If the car park video shows that guy, he said bullied and mentally unstable himself, so don't blame the newspapers for mentioning that. It's the most authentic piece of information we have about potential reasons for now.
Also, I don't see yet what immigration policies have to do with an 18 year old German (-Iranian) born and raised in Munich, or what could have been done to prevent this.
Stop bringing Merkel into things Merkel has no ties to. This guy has been here all his life.
And stop blaming Merkel for taking up refugees if your own fucking country being too pussy about admitting FOUR HUNDRED of them is one of the main reasons we're left alone with the mess.
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 23-07-2016 11:33
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cio93 wrote:
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So much for the neo-nazis. Much surprise. (actually quite sad how many 'wanted' the perpetrators to be far right wing group) Whoever made that rumour had eureka, some people actually fell for it
I wonder what the excuse the newspapers will bring tomorrow, I'm pretty damn sure it's gonna be bullied and mentally unstable. But we'll see.
If the car park video shows that guy, he said bullied and mentally unstable himself, so don't blame the newspapers for mentioning that. It's the most authentic piece of information we have about potential reasons for now.
Also, I don't see yet what immigration policies have to do with an 18 year old German (-Iranian) born and raised in Munich, or what could have been done to prevent this.
Stop bringing Merkel into things Merkel has no ties to. This guy has been here all his life.
And stop blaming Merkel for taking up refugees if your own fucking country being too pussy about admitting FOUR HUNDRED of them is one of the main reasons we're left alone with the mess.
Well the last time I remember the last attack that left 5 dead, was by a refugee. And that happened only few days ago 
Why would Poland accept any? Don't you want these immigrants to integrate and live peacefully in the country?? Because if you send them to Poland that will not be the case, Poland has the strongest anti-Muslim sentiment in Europe which goes back through history. It really makes absolutely zero sense to send any Muslims to Poland, unless you wanna radicalize them even further lol
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Posted on 23-07-2016 12:09
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Well, I'd argue that there are many states in the Balkans (excepting Bosnia, Kosovo and Albania) that are far more historically Islamophobic due to centuries of Ottoman rule leaving a deep resentment, but otherwise that's a pretty fair point. Sending refugees to countries that have absolutely no willingness to integrate them - be it for religious reasons, or simply because the state is too poor to support them - is only going to make things worse and increase radicalisation.
Germany has been at the forefront and set an example to the rest of the western countries, ditto Sweden. But others, in particular the UK, haven't done enough to help. And by allowing the refugee crisis to build up a head of steam, they've brought issues of radicalisation upon themselves due to increasing resentment between different communities within their borders. |
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| cio93 |
Posted on 23-07-2016 12:14
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Alakagom wrote:
Well the last time I remember the last attack that left 5 dead, was by a refugee. And that happened only few days ago
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Another German attack. But I guess all the cheap labour they are getting is worth it to Merkel.
^ You still made the connection to refugees this time again, long before anyone knew what's going on. A right then doesn't cover for a wrong yesterday.
And besides, the train incident was the first extreme act of violence by a refugee here after living with over a million of them for over a year now, compared to over 1000 acts of violence against refugee camps and accommodations by Germans last year alone.
Of course I'm not saying there is no threat, I'm saying compare the statistics.
Many Germans kill Germans too.
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Why would Poland accept any? Don't you want these immigrants to integrate and live peacefully in the country?? Because if you send them to Poland that will not be the case, Poland has the strongest anti-Muslim sentiment in Europe which goes back through history. It really makes absolutely zero sense to send any Muslims to Poland, unless you wanna radicalize them even further lol
That says more about your country than about mine tbh.
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 23-07-2016 12:22
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cio93 wrote:
Alakagom wrote:
Well the last time I remember the last attack that left 5 dead, was by a refugee. And that happened only few days ago
Alakagom wrote:
Another German attack. But I guess all the cheap labour they are getting is worth it to Merkel.
^ You still made the connection to refugees this time again, long before anyone knew what's going on. A right then doesn't cover for a wrong yesterday.
And besides, the train incident was the first extreme act of violence by a refugee here after living with over a million of them for over a year now, compared to over 1000 acts of violence against refugee camps and accommodations by Germans last year alone.
Of course I'm not saying there is no threat, I'm saying compare the statistics.
Many Germans kill Germans too.
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Why would Poland accept any? Don't you want these immigrants to integrate and live peacefully in the country?? Because if you send them to Poland that will not be the case, Poland has the strongest anti-Muslim sentiment in Europe which goes back through history. It really makes absolutely zero sense to send any Muslims to Poland, unless you wanna radicalize them even further lol
That says more about your country than about mine tbh.
Why? Why does a country has to accept immigrants they share absolute no culture with? Maybe some people don't want globalist world. Does that mean they are bigoted and racist?
Based on terrorism date, Poland is the safest country in Europe at the moment, so it seems the prejudices are working in protecting its citizens. I'll take that over anything right now.
It's not like your country will be much different, as will see in the next elections most likely. Even the countries taking most immigrants seem to be dividing, which I think shows the real issue.
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 23-07-2016 12:27
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You cant speak seriously about this with german, they are still operating on collective guilt for holocaust, now they think they are obliged to save the whole world, while they just silently destroy themselves as the culture.
And worst thing that they apply these rules on whole Europe and say : shame on you, when you dont want to accept our stupid refugee quotas. You want thousand and thousands of refugees in your country? Your pick, but dont force the others, when they dont want to (hell even the refugess only want to Germany or Sweden)...
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 23-07-2016 12:32
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Btw. this reaction of mine is not directed to the latest attack,it does not have so much common, the attack and current immigrant wawe.
Also i am not for something like hating the muslims or driving the out of Europe, better ways shoud be stopping those goat fuckers in Middle East, who radicalize others in Europe with their influnce...
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| cio93 |
Posted on 23-07-2016 12:42
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I don't feel any guilt for the holocaust. Those were other times and other people.
If anything, I feel we senselessly hated on a large group of people only because of their religion and failed to show any glimpse of empathy and humanity back then, so I think we should try to not make the same mistake again.
If you wanna define trying to avoid large-scale generalization and racism as "guilt", go ahead.
The West helped fuck up the Middle East, so I feel the West should help clean up the mess. And we still have this construct called the European Union, which I believe is a sufficient basis for that quota thing. Life's not always fun. We live in paradise compared to them.
Of course we have to tackle the causes, but we can't just tackle the causes and ignore the effects.
And if I had a fairy giving me the option to choose between the assurance that I won't die in the next two years and saving 20 innocent lives from air strikes or drowning, I know what I take. Call me stupid.
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 23-07-2016 12:49
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I am against racism as you are, i dont care if people coming are black, green, muslim or christian, but you know what? They dont want to live in Czech Republic, they are not asking for asylum here. They want to go to Germany through our country, because Angela promised them everything...
There was a big family that was brought by the project from Iran to Czech Republic, they were given a place to live in and food...what was their answer? They were caught in Germany three times as they escaped there and were returned to Czech Republic. Our country is paradise compared to Iran, but it is not enough...so that is why some refugee quotas are stupid, because you cant force people to live somewhere. Should we put them in chains here?
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 24-07-2016 18:47
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21-year-old Syrian who is applying for asylum wielding a machette kills one and injures two more.
For Merkel that probably means his asylum claim should be sped up
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 26-07-2016 11:28
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Priest mutilated. French PM was spot on '' get used to it lads''
PS. Awaiting dislike from mighty Crom''there is no problem in Europe''my 
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Posted on 26-07-2016 12:49
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Alakagom wrote:
Priest mutilated. French PM was spot on '' get used to it lads''
PS. Awaiting dislike from mighty Crom''there is no problem in Europe''my
It's almost as if the EU policy of allowing anyone into Europe is proving to be flawed in some way. Britain will not be the last country to opt out of the EU unless they sort out their freedom of movement farce. |
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Posted on 26-07-2016 22:38
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Its not safe to leave your home anymore |
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Posted on 28-07-2016 17:34
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German media reporting that the Gunman from Munich was nevertheless a racist...
Kirchen's second account according to Spilak23, 21-07-2016 17:16
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| Crommy |
Posted on 28-07-2016 23:33
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Alakagom wrote:
Priest mutilated. French PM was spot on '' get used to it lads''
PS. Awaiting dislike from mighty Crom''there is no problem in Europe''my
GET OUT OF MY HEAD!!!
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| Paul23 |
Posted on 28-07-2016 23:41
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It's kinda weird to see you all jump on the bandwagon now. I got a lot of shit for saying in this thread, that we should close our borders. I was also told, that I could get banned off daily and now you guys start to have the same opinion. Normally I would be happy that guys agree with me, but I find it more weird for some reason. Also Mr. "Refugees Welcome" has disappeared since the last bombings.
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| cio93 |
Posted on 28-07-2016 23:57
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I haven't disappeared, I'm just tired of trying to convince people day in day out, especially when they're foreigners anyway and therefore can't threaten the stability and future of this country by voting extreme right-wing parties in the next elections.
I presented my view and my beliefs, what else should I do. There's nothing to gain here.
Actually, I'm just tired of humanity tbh. Do whatever you want. Believe whatever you want.
When's the first rocket ship to Mars?
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 29-07-2016 00:12
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I'm still 100% refugees welcome.
Bite me.
Actually it'd be better to get the current people out of the country and just let the refugees settle here. We'll go there and learn who we're judging |
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| NTTHRASH |
Posted on 29-07-2016 02:47
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DAE APPLY ONE IRRATIONALLY HARDCORE IDEAL TO A MULTIFACETED PROBLEM
"America. Show a nipple on television and the whole country goes ape-shit." -DubbelDekker
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