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| DS7SN13 |
Posted on 16-07-2016 21:38
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Arberg27 wrote:
Maybe because they have seen cycling race since his doping suspension, only in 2014 was Contador close to Contadope.
I'll give you he ain't as good as he was back then (LOL obviously he's 33 now), but don't come with that Doping thing, he's won 3 GTs since he came back, and 1 against your beloved Froome (2x if we count Vuelta '12)! But I won't argue further, I know you like to troll everything Contador related!!!   |
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| Arberg27 |
Posted on 16-07-2016 21:43
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DS7SN13 wrote:
Arberg27 wrote:
Maybe because they have seen cycling race since his doping suspension, only in 2014 was Contador close to Contadope.
I'll give you he ain't as good as he was back then (LOL obviously he's 33 now), but don't come with that Doping thing, he's won 3 GTs since he came back, and 1 against your beloved Froome (2x if we count Vuelta '12)! But I won't argue further, I know you like to troll everything Contador related!!! Giro/Vuelta is not the same as Tour. Just look Aru in Giro/Vuelta last year and Tour now. Since 2010 is Contador top 5 material in tour and can win Giro/Vuelta. MAX 81 to him. |
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| Tafiolmo |
Posted on 16-07-2016 21:54
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A number of mtn stats are still to be decided (based on what we've seen so far) but Contador will stay at 82 mtn and I find it hard to believe that some people want to downgrade him for being sick, the same also applies to Pinot who was clearly sick as well despite riding on.
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| Arberg27 |
Posted on 16-07-2016 22:00
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Is Landa so 83 mountain? He was better than Contador in mountains last year, this year he was just sick.
Pinot have become better to time trial, but worse in mountains.
Good there are an editor, so I can give them 81 and 78 in my game.
Edited by Arberg27 on 16-07-2016 22:28
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| Tafiolmo |
Posted on 16-07-2016 22:31
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Arberg27 wrote:
Good there are an editor, so I can give them 81 and 78 in my game.
That's probably the smartest thing you've said all year.
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| Arberg27 |
Posted on 17-07-2016 17:28
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Quintana 82 mountain. Both TDF 2013-2015-2016 and Giro 2014, was he not so strong the first two weeks. He lives on his REC. |
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| Kiserlovski01 |
Posted on 17-07-2016 21:19
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What is Pantano's current DH rating?
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| Arberg27 |
Posted on 17-07-2016 21:28
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| Kiserlovski01 |
Posted on 17-07-2016 21:35
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IMO another small push would be justified after today and the stage he won in the Tour de Suisse.
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| Tafiolmo |
Posted on 17-07-2016 21:39
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Pantano will have a DH of either 77 or 78.
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 18-07-2016 08:11
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Arberg27 wrote:
Quintana 82 mountain. Both TDF 2013-2015-2016 and Giro 2014, was he not so strong the first two weeks. He lives on his REC.
Sure, he won Romandie and Catalunya this year in third weeks of these races...oh wait. 
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| Arberg27 |
Posted on 18-07-2016 08:29
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Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Arberg27 wrote:
Quintana 82 mountain. Both TDF 2013-2015-2016 and Giro 2014, was he not so strong the first two weeks. He lives on his REC.
Sure, he won Romandie and Catalunya this year in third weeks of these races...oh wait.
Can he easily do with 82. Preparation race is about form. Just look Nibali.
Geraint Thomas beat Contador in Volta ao Algarve and Paris-Nice, makes him better than Contador? No because the best riders should be assessed on GTs.
Edited by Arberg27 on 18-07-2016 08:34
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| marcoplv95 |
Posted on 18-07-2016 19:23
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JUst TWO things CAN'T be argued this tour:
1) Kittel canìt have more SPR than Cavendish
2) Quintana can't have same MO than Frrome. |
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| Arberg27 |
Posted on 18-07-2016 19:49
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marcoplv95 wrote:
JUst TWO things CAN'T be argued this tour:
1) Kittel canìt have more SPR than Cavendish
2) Quintana can't have same MO than Frrome.
3) Tony can't have more TT than Dumoulin |
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| Forza-Diavolo |
Posted on 19-07-2016 18:05
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Mo Stats:
Froome:83
Mollema 81
Quintana 81
Porte 81
Aru 81
Nibali 81
Contador 81
Simon Yates 80
Valverde 80
Rodriguez 80
Bardet 80
Van Garderen 80
Dan Martin 80
Meintjes 79
Kreuziger 79 |
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| AndreasEng |
Posted on 19-07-2016 19:29
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Sagan should get at least same sprint stat as Kristoff, if you look at tour. |
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| Tafiolmo |
Posted on 19-07-2016 19:53
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@Andreas
For the next update kristoff has had a sizeable decrease from 81 to 79 sprint which makes him the same as Sagan but with his inferior acc and Sagan's high acc Sagan should be better now. To be fair Kristoff has been badly out of form all season really.
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| Omloop |
Posted on 19-07-2016 20:48
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Tafiolmo wrote:
@Andreas
For the next update kristoff has had a sizeable decrease from 81 to 79 sprint which makes him the same as Sagan but with his inferior acc and Sagan's high acc Sagan should be better now. To be fair Kristoff has been badly out of form all season really.
Could you please post the current or planned spr and acc stats? |
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| sgdanny |
Posted on 19-07-2016 20:57
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Dumoulin will most likely have one more point in TT than Martin in the upcoming stat release. If we look at the last 2 years of results, that can definitely be justified.
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| Tafiolmo |
Posted on 19-07-2016 21:07
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Omloop wrote:
Tafiolmo wrote:
@Andreas
For the next update kristoff has had a sizeable decrease from 81 to 79 sprint which makes him the same as Sagan but with his inferior acc and Sagan's high acc Sagan should be better now. To be fair Kristoff has been badly out of form all season really.
Could you please post the current or planned spr and acc stats?
These are as I have them in the DB BUT I guarantee that there is probably a 75% certainty that some of these will be changed when the stats team vote on it and also keep in mind stage 21 will be influential as well. For example acc and other relevant stats will be tweaked to suit these riders better as well.
Cavendish 82/83
Kittel 82/82
Greipel 82/80
Sagan 79/83
Coquard 79/81
Kristoff 79/78
Degenkolb 78/79
Groenewegen 77/78
Theuns 76/77
Enger 76/77
McLay 76/77
Laporte 75/76
Edited by Tafiolmo on 19-07-2016 21:13
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