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AI Problems from Previous Games In PCM16
Dee-Jay
Wanted to make a separate post to the pinned thread about weird AI.

What I want to know is, have any of the bad AI faults from PCM14 and 15 been transferred to the new game?

Examples :

- GC contender teams not chasing the breakaway, allowing a guy in the break who's a couple of minutes down to win by 5 minutes +, building an unassailable lead in the GC. Usually happens in week long stage races I find, Paris-Nice, Tirreno - Adriatico...

- In classics, the AI riders in the final group of favourites near the end sometimes team up to defeat the player. Tactics as if they were on the same team - 1 attacks, others sit up and leave it to player to chase. Repeat until player rider is out of energy.
 
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Tafiolmo
I haven't played enough of PCM16 yet to know as I'm mostly just doing tests on it at the moment for the stats.

1) In the past editions I've never experienced that personally in week long GT's but have heard others mention something along those lines.

2) Most definitely, this is a problem I've found especially in the harder classics where I've felt that the other AI controlled riders instead of trying to work together with me to bring back an attacker have often worked to eliminate me as if they were on the same team. I often just thought it was bad tactics by me but I've noticed it on several occasions and the LBL is the race that springs to mind.
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Dee-Jay
@Tafiolmo

Its really bad that classics AI problem. I had it where I was Etixx in Paris-Roubaix. Stybar was in the final group and the AI attacked with cancellara and I had to bring him back. I brought another attack back, then Demare went. I had zero energy to chase him and all the other favourites sat up at what seemed like about 55 dot, leaving Demare to solo to an 11km victory. It's a game wrecker if you have major classics goals.
 
vismitananda
Dee-Jay wrote:
@Tafiolmo

Its really bad that classics AI problem. I had it where I was Etixx in Paris-Roubaix. Stybar was in the final group and the AI attacked with cancellara and I had to bring him back. I brought another attack back, then Demare went. I had zero energy to chase him and all the other favourites sat up at what seemed like about 55 dot, leaving Demare to solo to an 11km victory. It's a game wrecker if you have major classics goals.


This is not just the cobbled or Ardennes classics, but most of the other races. Be it week long or Grand Tour. This is a game breaking bug for me. That's why I cannot buy PCM16 if it has the same thinking level of AI, like its predecessors.

It really breaks the immersion.
-Pain is temporary, Quitting lasts forever-
 
Avin Wargunnson
Yep, this is basically about AI (all teams) vs human, this is what the game is all about and i cant see it being changed. AI does not compete with AI, just all in against human controller...
I'll be back
 
Dee-Jay
Yes guys. It's a big, big problem with these recent games. I keep thinking they'll have fixed it and buying them, like a fool. Considering it used to be OK (pre 2013?), it's ridiculous that it still remains. If you see the problems, please post them in the AI Problems thread so they get reported. I'm gonna keep using the game, see what I find. I haven't played much at the moment.
 
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