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Giro d'Italia 2016 - Week 1 (6th - 15th May)
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| lakebeach |
Posted on 11-05-2016 16:14
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Viviani nowhere to be seen today. Shouldn't have bet on him.
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 11-05-2016 16:14
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Poor bastard...let's hope he is ok. |
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| Strydz |
Posted on 11-05-2016 16:17
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Watching overhead showed just how dominant Greipel was but also noticed Ewan got checked a few times so think he could of finished a few places higher which is a good sign as he was blown away in the NL stages
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| Luxemburger |
Posted on 11-05-2016 16:17
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Strydz wrote:
Well no there were other good sprinters left as they guy who finished second is damn fast
As I said in my edit I overlooked Demare (who could be the new first in sprint classement if I'm right?)
Edited by Luxemburger on 11-05-2016 16:19
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| Strydz |
Posted on 11-05-2016 16:18
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Luxemburger wrote:
Strydz wrote:
Well no there were other good sprinters left as they guy who finished second is damn fast
As I said in my edit I oversaw Demare (who could be the new first in sprint classement if I'm right?)
Well the edit came after I posted but its all good 
Yeah he might be leading the points now
We were wrong, Kittel still leads the points comp by 20
Edited by Strydz on 11-05-2016 17:11
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| Strydz |
Posted on 11-05-2016 16:20
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Well I wouldn't be expecting Viviani to be anywhere unless it's flat this Giro, he's been racing and training for the track in Rio this year so he's lost some of the climbing ability
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| Strydz |
Posted on 11-05-2016 16:22
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It was Porsev
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 11-05-2016 16:27
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Nice. Very nice.
Greipel the sprinter of power. Kittel might be the fastest, but Greipel is damn impressive on a finish like this. Nice day for Lotto, really deserve it after their hard work today! |
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| lakebeach |
Posted on 11-05-2016 16:28
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Strydz wrote:
Well I wouldn't be expecting Viviani to be anywhere unless it's flat this Giro, he's been racing and training for the track in Rio this year so he's lost some of the climbing ability
Oh that's right, he's aiming for the Olympics this season. Well then I know who not to bet on on hilly sprint stages this year. 
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| Riis123 |
Posted on 11-05-2016 16:29
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Jungels hands down the most impressive so far in the Giro. Glad I have placed a few monetas on him for various competitions, he will probably be one of the best tomorrow again, but he will encounter some problems later on when he is firing on all cylinders now.. |
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| Luxemburger |
Posted on 11-05-2016 16:29
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So Jungels and Preidler should gain 4 secs aswell?
And where was Nizzolo? Where the cobbles too hard for him? |
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| Riis123 |
Posted on 11-05-2016 16:32
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Ian Butler wrote:
Nice. Very nice.
Greipel the sprinter of power. Kittel might be the fastest, but Greipel is damn impressive on a finish like this. Nice day for Lotto, really deserve it after their hard work today!
Kittel is at least one level better than everyone else in the world on stages without complications.
Once its +200 and a few hills, he is gone. Not a very flattering bike rider to me, but he is damn impressive nevertheless. He will win those flat, straight sprints 8/10 against Cav, Kristoff, Greipel etc.
I would much rather celebrate the harder sprinters like today, but we have gone over that time and time again ( not you ), so lets not go there again! |
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 11-05-2016 16:35
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then it was the same guy..who messed up a little sprint at stage 2 |
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| Strydz |
Posted on 11-05-2016 16:43
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Riis123 wrote:
Ian Butler wrote:
Nice. Very nice.
Greipel the sprinter of power. Kittel might be the fastest, but Greipel is damn impressive on a finish like this. Nice day for Lotto, really deserve it after their hard work today!
Kittel is at least one level better than everyone else in the world on stages without complications.
Once its +200 and a few hills, he is gone. Not a very flattering bike rider to me, but he is damn impressive nevertheless. He will win those flat, straight sprints 8/10 against Cav, Kristoff, Greipel etc.
I would much rather celebrate the harder sprinters like today, but we have gone over that time and time again ( not you ), so lets not go there again!
Well at 188 cm's and 82 Kg's (maybe more) he's always going to struggle on days with rolling hills, he's a beast and to be more competitive in these types of stages he'd have to lose mass which would blunt his speed.
I like that we have different types of top sprinters at the moment as it makes it more interesting
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| Riis123 |
Posted on 11-05-2016 16:46
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Strydz wrote:
Riis123 wrote:
Ian Butler wrote:
Nice. Very nice.
Greipel the sprinter of power. Kittel might be the fastest, but Greipel is damn impressive on a finish like this. Nice day for Lotto, really deserve it after their hard work today!
Kittel is at least one level better than everyone else in the world on stages without complications.
Once its +200 and a few hills, he is gone. Not a very flattering bike rider to me, but he is damn impressive nevertheless. He will win those flat, straight sprints 8/10 against Cav, Kristoff, Greipel etc.
I would much rather celebrate the harder sprinters like today, but we have gone over that time and time again ( not you ), so lets not go there again!
Well at 188 cm's and 82 Kg's (maybe more) he's always going to struggle on days with rolling hills, he's a beast and to be more competitive in these types of stages he'd have to lose mass which would blunt his speed.
I like that we have different types of top sprinters at the moment as it makes it more interesting
Yep, I don't blame him at all. He is a one trick, just like say a climber like Rujano or Rasmussen, but is the best at the world without any comparison at that. Why change when you'll have 4-6 opportunities in every GT? On the other hand, you could argue that losing a little weight so he would be able to survive would net him even more wins considering he simply is that dominant and Cav and Greipel at this point is above 30 and you must assume they are on the decline by now, Cav is at least.
All I say is that I simply enjoy watching these sprint stages much, much more than the 'regular' if you get my drift, but obviously, there should be space for everyone. |
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| Strydz |
Posted on 11-05-2016 16:47
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Yep Jungles and Preidler both gained time
1 Dumoulin 2019:40:48
2 Jungles 0:16
3 Ulissi 0:20
4 Preidler 0:20
5 Kruijswijk 0:24
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 11-05-2016 16:48
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Strydz wrote:
Well at 188 cm's and 82 Kg's (maybe more) he's always going to struggle on days with rolling hills, he's a beast
My exact weight and height. I am far from beast ..meaning 171X weaker |
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 11-05-2016 16:52
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Riis123 wrote:
Yep, I don't blame him at all. He is a one trick, just like say a climber like Rujano or Rasmussen, but is the best at the world without any comparison at that. Why change when you'll have 4-6 opportunities in every GT? On the other hand, you could argue that losing a little weight so he would be able to survive would net him even more wins considering he simply is that dominant and Cav and Greipel at this point is above 30 and you must assume they are on the decline by now, Cav is at least.
All I say is that I simply enjoy watching these sprint stages much, much more than the 'regular' if you get my drift, but obviously, there should be space for everyone.
It does not work like that. Loosing he's weight and be better climber meaning loosing sprint speed and power. Better be best flat sprinter.
Like..trying to be better climber to complete as GT rider ..so many TT dynamites have lost TT ability. Modern cycling is more and more about speciality..Kittel (sprinter)...Martin (TT dominator)..Quintana (climber). There are some freeks around ..like Sagan |
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| Riis123 |
Posted on 11-05-2016 16:55
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Guido Mukk wrote:
Riis123 wrote:
Yep, I don't blame him at all. He is a one trick, just like say a climber like Rujano or Rasmussen, but is the best at the world without any comparison at that. Why change when you'll have 4-6 opportunities in every GT? On the other hand, you could argue that losing a little weight so he would be able to survive would net him even more wins considering he simply is that dominant and Cav and Greipel at this point is above 30 and you must assume they are on the decline by now, Cav is at least.
All I say is that I simply enjoy watching these sprint stages much, much more than the 'regular' if you get my drift, but obviously, there should be space for everyone.
It does not work like that. Loosing he weight and be better climber meaning loosing sprint speed and power.
Like..trying to be better climber to complete as GT rider ..so many TT dynamites have lost TT ability. Modern cycling is more and more about speciality..Kittel (sprinter)...Martin (TT dominator)..Quintana (climber). There are some freeks around ..like Sagan
If you actually read my posts and is willing to actually try to understand what I write, I think your responses will be much better.
I'll break it down:
1. Kittel is super dominant
2. If he loses a little weight, he might still be the best sprinter since he at the first place is super dominant
3. But now he can potentially win harder stages as well
4. Might result in him winning even more bike races. |
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| Strydz |
Posted on 11-05-2016 16:59
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Guido Mukk wrote:
Strydz wrote:
Well at 188 cm's and 82 Kg's (maybe more) he's always going to struggle on days with rolling hills, he's a beast
My exact weight and height. I am far from beast ..meaning 171X weaker
Get on the program and i'm sure you could be a beast as well 
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