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Giro d'Italia 2016 - Week 1 (6th - 15th May)
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| alexkr00 |
Posted on 06-05-2016 16:35
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SSJ2Luigi wrote:
does Roglic need boni seconds to take pink or can he finish ahead of Dumoulin and take the jersey? (ignoring all other riders)
I think he needs bonus seconds.
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| Riis123 |
Posted on 06-05-2016 16:35
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ianrussell wrote:
trekbmc wrote:
1-7-Wherever Geniez came in velogames, nice start. 
Strydz wrote:
GC guys time differences (well I wouldn't include Dumoulin as a GC guy)
Dumoulin
Roglic
Nibali +19
Geniez +21
Kruijswijk +22
Valverde +24
Chaves +30
Zakarin +32
Hesjedal +33
Uran +33
Majka +38
Péraud +38
Landa +40
Pozzovivo +47
Why wouldn't you include him as a GC guy? After that performance in the Vuelta, he may not be the number 1 favourite to win but discounting him doesn't make much sense (especially as you also put Roglic there  )
It will be interesting to see how it pans out. Is he really just "going for the TT's" as he's stated pre race or merely deflecting a bit of pressure.
From the little I know of the route many of the stage finishes aren't the toughest gradients and of course there are less summit finishes too. If all goes according to plan he could be in pink after the hilly (though not as hilly as it looks at first glance) TT on stage 9 and then who knows?
Equally he could be out the back the second we hit a 3km+ climb
Ironically, the MTF's is the least of his problems. He didnt have any problem in the Vuelta, but when they finally decided to race on stage 20, he cracked. The Giro has 5 of those stages, at least. |
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| Strydz |
Posted on 06-05-2016 16:40
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Riis123 wrote:
Spoiler ianrussell wrote:
trekbmc wrote:
1-7-Wherever Geniez came in velogames, nice start. 
Strydz wrote:
GC guys time differences (well I wouldn't include Dumoulin as a GC guy)
Dumoulin
Roglic
Nibali +19
Geniez +21
Kruijswijk +22
Valverde +24
Chaves +30
Zakarin +32
Hesjedal +33
Uran +33
Majka +38
Péraud +38
Landa +40
Pozzovivo +47
Why wouldn't you include him as a GC guy? After that performance in the Vuelta, he may not be the number 1 favourite to win but discounting him doesn't make much sense (especially as you also put Roglic there )
It will be interesting to see how it pans out. Is he really just "going for the TT's" as he's stated pre race or merely deflecting a bit of pressure.
From the little I know of the route many of the stage finishes aren't the toughest gradients and of course there are less summit finishes too. If all goes according to plan he could be in pink after the hilly (though not as hilly as it looks at first glance) TT on stage 9 and then who knows?
Equally he could be out the back the second we hit a 3km+ climb
Ironically, the MTF's is the least of his problems. He didnt have any problem in the Vuelta, but when they finally decided to race on stage 20, he cracked. The Giro has 5 of those stages, at least.
Yeah but he had done the training in the mountains last year whilst this year is all about Rio, so the stages that you point out are not really the reason why he won't be there by the end of the race
Hells 500 Crew and 6 x Everester
Don Rd Launching Place
Melbourne Hill Rd Warrandyte
Colby Drive Belgrave South
William Rd The Patch
David Hill Rd Monbulk
Lakeside Drive Emerald
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| gotlandrules |
Posted on 06-05-2016 16:44
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1-4-7 in Velo, good start |
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| Forever the Best |
Posted on 06-05-2016 16:46
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Also Cancellara is so unlucky |
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| Riis123 |
Posted on 06-05-2016 16:48
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Strydz wrote:
Riis123 wrote:
Spoiler ianrussell wrote:
trekbmc wrote:
1-7-Wherever Geniez came in velogames, nice start.
Strydz wrote:
GC guys time differences (well I wouldn't include Dumoulin as a GC guy)
Dumoulin
Roglic
Nibali +19
Geniez +21
Kruijswijk +22
Valverde +24
Chaves +30
Zakarin +32
Hesjedal +33
Uran +33
Majka +38
Péraud +38
Landa +40
Pozzovivo +47
Why wouldn't you include him as a GC guy? After that performance in the Vuelta, he may not be the number 1 favourite to win but discounting him doesn't make much sense (especially as you also put Roglic there )
It will be interesting to see how it pans out. Is he really just "going for the TT's" as he's stated pre race or merely deflecting a bit of pressure.
From the little I know of the route many of the stage finishes aren't the toughest gradients and of course there are less summit finishes too. If all goes according to plan he could be in pink after the hilly (though not as hilly as it looks at first glance) TT on stage 9 and then who knows?
Equally he could be out the back the second we hit a 3km+ climb
Ironically, the MTF's is the least of his problems. He didnt have any problem in the Vuelta, but when they finally decided to race on stage 20, he cracked. The Giro has 5 of those stages, at least.
Yeah but he had done the training in the mountains last year whilst this year is all about Rio, so the stages that you point out are not really the reason why he won't be there by the end of the race
If they just had MTFs like in the Vuelta, I think it would be very different. His team and and climbing skills will probably be exposed in this Giro, especially his team |
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| ruben |
Posted on 06-05-2016 16:51
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I think Dumoulin will still try to go for the GC, but if he gets dropped to like 5th/6th position and the big TT has already been done, he will stop going for it and save energy. Rio is still the main goal.
I'm really happy he won, he had some luck with Kung falling, Cancellara being ill, but he had some bad luck in time trials earlier this season. So whatever, a win is a win  And this is a big win |
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| Strydz |
Posted on 06-05-2016 16:53
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Still time for him to recover from the stomach issues with a few stages that I can see him having a shot at winning
Hells 500 Crew and 6 x Everester
Don Rd Launching Place
Melbourne Hill Rd Warrandyte
Colby Drive Belgrave South
William Rd The Patch
David Hill Rd Monbulk
Lakeside Drive Emerald
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| ianrussell |
Posted on 06-05-2016 17:27
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How about Ludvigsson to take any pressure off Tom by somehow surviviing the tough finshes on stages 6 and 8 and then doing what he's best at in the hillyish time trial in stage 9 to take pink! |
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| Shonak |
Posted on 06-05-2016 19:30
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Good one Dumoulin, this is the stuff that turns a great cyclist intoa hero in his country. I didn't watch the prologue, weather was too good. However,
a) I'm so dumb for de-selecting Roglic in velogames
b) so sad for Küng and my daily fantasy squad, we needed that.
c) Kittel to get pink soon
"It’s a little bit scary when Contador attacks." - Tommy V
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| Strydz |
Posted on 06-05-2016 20:11
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Shonak wrote:
a) I'm so dumb for de-selecting Roglic in velogames
Hahaha! Me too
Hells 500 Crew and 6 x Everester
Don Rd Launching Place
Melbourne Hill Rd Warrandyte
Colby Drive Belgrave South
William Rd The Patch
David Hill Rd Monbulk
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 06-05-2016 20:13
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sad that Roglic didn't take it..It would have been amazing for man himself and for team. |
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| alexkr00 |
Posted on 06-05-2016 20:41
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Me too, but I still hope Jungels will score more than him before the end of Il Giro.
A real shame he didn't win, it would have been awesome to see Raboba... Lotto in pink again
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| ruben |
Posted on 06-05-2016 22:07
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Guido Mukk wrote:
sad that Roglic didn't take it..It would have been amazing for man himself and for team. though that pink jersey would clash horribly with the LottoNL Jumbo colour scheme. |
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 06-05-2016 22:11
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ruben wrote:
Guido Mukk wrote:
sad that Roglic didn't take it..It would have been amazing for man himself and for team. though that pink jersey would clash horribly with the LottoNL Jumbo colour scheme.
true.. After Rabobank withdraw ..and several name and shirt change they have lost mojo. It would have been great..hope. Has I am still hoping that Vanmarcke best races are still ahead (2016 he has been totally behind that hope) |
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| Strydz |
Posted on 07-05-2016 06:08
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Guido Mukk wrote:
ruben wrote:
Guido Mukk wrote:
sad that Roglic didn't take it..It would have been amazing for man himself and for team. though that pink jersey would clash horribly with the LottoNL Jumbo colour scheme.
true.. After Rabobank withdraw ..and several name and shirt change they have lost mojo. It would have been great..hope. Has I am still hoping that Vanmarcke best races are still ahead (2016 he has been totally behind that hope)
Vanmarcke wont be at Lotto Jumbo next season
Hells 500 Crew and 6 x Everester
Don Rd Launching Place
Melbourne Hill Rd Warrandyte
Colby Drive Belgrave South
William Rd The Patch
David Hill Rd Monbulk
Lakeside Drive Emerald
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 07-05-2016 07:36
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Strydz wrote:
Guido Mukk wrote:
ruben wrote:
Guido Mukk wrote:
sad that Roglic didn't take it..It would have been amazing for man himself and for team. though that pink jersey would clash horribly with the LottoNL Jumbo colour scheme.
true.. After Rabobank withdraw ..and several name and shirt change they have lost mojo. It would have been great..hope. Has I am still hoping that Vanmarcke best races are still ahead (2016 he has been totally behind that hope)
Vanmarcke wont be at Lotto Jumbo next season
please do not tell that it will be Ettix .. |
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| ianrussell |
Posted on 07-05-2016 09:00
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Rumours he met Trek last month. There's set to be a certain hole there next spring. |
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| Strydz |
Posted on 07-05-2016 11:16
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Guido Mukk wrote:
Strydz wrote:
Guido Mukk wrote:
ruben wrote:
Guido Mukk wrote:
sad that Roglic didn't take it..It would have been amazing for man himself and for team. though that pink jersey would clash horribly with the LottoNL Jumbo colour scheme.
true.. After Rabobank withdraw ..and several name and shirt change they have lost mojo. It would have been great..hope. Has I am still hoping that Vanmarcke best races are still ahead (2016 he has been totally behind that hope)
Vanmarcke wont be at Lotto Jumbo next season
please do not tell that it will be Ettix ..
Trek makes sense as I think Sagan goes to Etixx with Specialized stumping up a good part of the wage bill, also Lotto have a reduced budget next season so Vanmarcke leaving is all but certain to happen
Hells 500 Crew and 6 x Everester
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Melbourne Hill Rd Warrandyte
Colby Drive Belgrave South
William Rd The Patch
David Hill Rd Monbulk
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| Dusen |
Posted on 07-05-2016 11:22
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If Sagan goes for Etixx next season, how are they going to handle the TDF squad, with both Kittel and Sagan. Sagan also going for the points jersey?
Seems like quite the mess to me, doubt that Lefevre will exclude either of them from the Tour. |
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