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| KenL |
Posted on 23-09-2015 04:59
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Been playing around with the matte-black idea for the team frame.
2 results.
1. Not only are the cervélo stickers gloss black, but the team stickers are also.
For me, I find the team stickers disappear.


2. Only the cervélo stickers are a gloss black, while the team stickers are a burnished lighter grey. I like this contrast.


Oh yah, I also matted out the 3T stem and seat post to match the frame style
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| Mithrillian |
Posted on 23-09-2015 06:39
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KenL wrote:
Been playing around with the matte-black idea for the team frame.
2 results.
1. Not only are the cervélo stickers gloss black, but the team stickers are also.
For me, I find the team stickers disappear.
2. Only the cervélo stickers are a gloss black, while the team stickers are a burnished lighter grey. I like this contrast.
Oh yah, I also matted out the 3T stem and seat post to match the frame style 
Wonder what this looks like in game.. Kind of hard to imagine now
EDIT: 2 more things that should Be easy to do:
- the FOTONODIG CYCLING TEAM on the horizontal tube appears to Be placed slightly too high. Maybe moving it down a bit may prevent the top part from bending too much?
- maybe it would Be Fun to colour the shift lever hoods pink, yelliw and red matching the tape? Or would that make it too much?
Edited by Mithrillian on 23-09-2015 07:58
''The thing I love about PCM is that no other game requires a guide where the sentence "Acceleration does not mean acceleration" is used.'' - cactus-jack
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| KenL |
Posted on 23-09-2015 12:30
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Stagiare

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- the FOTONODIG CYCLING TEAM on the horizontal tube appears to Be placed slightly too high. Maybe moving it down a bit may prevent the top part from bending too much?
The nif is diamond shape, meaning it flairs out then under, so it looks bent from that angle. What I will do is reduce the Y value on the logos to put them only in the upper flared part. The lower part would make the logo look like it is under the frame.
- maybe it would Be Fun to colour the shift lever hoods pink, yelliw and red matching the tape? Or would that make it too much?
This is for the grand tour frames or are you wanting the tape and hoods to be coloured on a matte black team frame for the GT? |
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| Mithrillian |
Posted on 23-09-2015 13:10
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Domestique

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KenL wrote:
- the FOTONODIG CYCLING TEAM on the horizontal tube appears to Be placed slightly too high. Maybe moving it down a bit may prevent the top part from bending too much?
The nif is diamond shape, meaning it flairs out then under, so it looks bent from that angle. What I will do is reduce the Y value on the logos to put them only in the upper flared part. The lower part would make the logo look like it is under the frame.
- maybe it would Be Fun to colour the shift lever hoods pink, yelliw and red matching the tape? Or would that make it too much?
This is for the grand tour frames or are you wanting the tape and hoods to be coloured on a matte black team frame for the GT?
No, no this is for the GT frames, not the matte black.
EDIT: I don't get the first part, but I trust it'll be alright
''The thing I love about PCM is that no other game requires a guide where the sentence "Acceleration does not mean acceleration" is used.'' - cactus-jack
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| KenL |
Posted on 23-09-2015 15:31
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Stagiare

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All is good  
I redesigned the team logos for the top tube, and here is the look for the hand grip hoodies. You can also see the changed logo.
Giro:

Tour:
Vuelta:
Either or, made so many variations on the road frames (10 I think). I will send all in the complete pack and let you decide ingame.
Need to move on to the TT frames  |
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| Mithrillian |
Posted on 23-09-2015 16:29
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KenL wrote:
All is good 
I redesigned the team logos for the top tube, and here is the look for the hand grip hoodies. You can also see the changed logo.
Giro:
Tour:
Vuelta:
Either or, made so many variations on the road frames (10 I think). I will send all in the complete pack and let you decide ingame.
Need to move on to the TT frames 
Nice job mate! THanks alot
''The thing I love about PCM is that no other game requires a guide where the sentence "Acceleration does not mean acceleration" is used.'' - cactus-jack
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| KenL |
Posted on 23-09-2015 16:32
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On to the P5 TT frame. Here is the typical style, what would you like done?
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| Mithrillian |
Posted on 23-09-2015 16:37
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KenL wrote:
On to the P5 TT frame. Here is the typical style, what would you like done?

I don't know, it just looks messy to me. Would like to see a more cleaner style, like the R5. I do kinda like the giant é though
Also, is skoda supposed to be a partner or what?
EDIT: I suppose something in this neighbourhood: https://triathlon....o-p5_99011
Obviously without the green colour.
EDIT2: Maybe try something like that green colour in GT colours for the leader
''The thing I love about PCM is that no other game requires a guide where the sentence "Acceleration does not mean acceleration" is used.'' - cactus-jack
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| KenL |
Posted on 23-09-2015 17:25
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I don't know, it just looks messy to me. Would like to see a more cleaner style, like the R5. I do kinda like the giant é though
Are you talking the colouring or a different nif?
Also, is skoda supposed to be a partner or what?
No just a leftover from a base 2015 P5 frame.
EDIT: I suppose something in this neighbourhood: https://triathlon....o-p5_99011
Obviously without the green colour.
EDIT2: Maybe try something like that green colour in GT colours for the leader
Again are you wanting me to use a different nif? |
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| Mithrillian |
Posted on 23-09-2015 17:49
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Domestique

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KenL wrote:
I don't know, it just looks messy to me. Would like to see a more cleaner style, like the R5. I do kinda like the giant é though
Are you talking the colouring or a different nif?
Also, is skoda supposed to be a partner or what?
No just a leftover from a base 2015 P5 frame.
EDIT: I suppose something in this neighbourhood: https://triathlon....o-p5_99011
Obviously without the green colour.
EDIT2: Maybe try something like that green colour in GT colours for the leader
Again are you wanting me to use a different nif?
Messyness: the colours. I don't exactly know what the nif does, but I suppose it's the base shape right? Anyway, the colours in the D file.
Also, the plasticky look of the saddle (_S file) is weird.
About the link, I liked the design on that one (it's a real life P5, talking _D file again here). I like the é on the saddle tube and lettering on the diagonal tube. Also, considering the main sponsor is a photography company, the pixels are kinda fun too (maybe cool to add the pixel design in the leaders bike, swap the green part for yellow)
''The thing I love about PCM is that no other game requires a guide where the sentence "Acceleration does not mean acceleration" is used.'' - cactus-jack
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| KenL |
Posted on 23-09-2015 18:01
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Here is a starting point for the frame.

The saddle/seat will be textured
I will sort out the colour style
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| KenL |
Posted on 24-09-2015 05:50
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About the link, I liked the design on that one (it's a real life P5, talking _D file again here). I like the é on the saddle tube and lettering on the diagonal tube. Also, considering the main sponsor is a photography company, the pixels are kinda fun too (maybe cool to add the pixel design in the leaders bike, swap the green part for yellow)
I have spent the entire day and editing four different nif files trying to make the pixel style exactly like the one in the link 
It just isn't going to work over the head tube. Too few polygons over such a large area makes the pixel boxes extremely distorted.
I will likely give it a go again tomorrow but it will be my own style. |
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| Mithrillian |
Posted on 24-09-2015 07:21
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Domestique

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KenL wrote:
About the link, I liked the design on that one (it's a real life P5, talking _D file again here). I like the é on the saddle tube and lettering on the diagonal tube. Also, considering the main sponsor is a photography company, the pixels are kinda fun too (maybe cool to add the pixel design in the leaders bike, swap the green part for yellow)
I have spent the entire day and editing four different nif files trying to make the pixel style exactly like the one in the link 
It just isn't going to work over the head tube. Too few polygons over such a large area makes the pixel boxes extremely distorted.
I will likely give it a go again tomorrow but it will be my own style.
Doesn't matter! Honestly I liked the effect!
''The thing I love about PCM is that no other game requires a guide where the sentence "Acceleration does not mean acceleration" is used.'' - cactus-jack
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| KenL |
Posted on 24-09-2015 19:09
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Stagiare

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Went back to scratch with my own design style and here is what I have so far:
Team bike 1:

Grand Tours
Edited by KenL on 28-09-2015 17:10
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| Mithrillian |
Posted on 24-09-2015 19:57
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Domestique

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KenL wrote:
Went back to scratch with my own design style and here is what I have so far:
Team bike 1:

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Grand Tours
Giro:
Tour:
Vuelta:
This! Now maybe add cervell on the diagonal tube and the é under the saddle maybe?
''The thing I love about PCM is that no other game requires a guide where the sentence "Acceleration does not mean acceleration" is used.'' - cactus-jack
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| KenL |
Posted on 25-09-2015 05:19
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Stagiare

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Here is where we are at:
Giro:
 Spoiler
Tour: 
Vuelta: 
I like them
Edited by KenL on 28-09-2015 17:08
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| Mithrillian |
Posted on 25-09-2015 06:52
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Domestique

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KenL wrote:
Here is where we are at:
Giro:
Spoiler Tour: 
Spoiler Vuelta: 
I like them 
Me too!
I know that particular part is dodgy, but could you enlarge the é under the saddle?
''The thing I love about PCM is that no other game requires a guide where the sentence "Acceleration does not mean acceleration" is used.'' - cactus-jack
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| Maddrengen |
Posted on 25-09-2015 07:59
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Wow KenL that design is totally awesome!
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| KenL |
Posted on 28-09-2015 17:06
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Stagiare

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Been busy with the family, weekends mean wife and eldest Étienne (13) return home from their work and school respectively.
I enlarged the é, and yes it made a hell of a lot of work to move the uvmaps around to accept it.
Here is the results including team logos applied to the frames (Giro,Tour,Vuelta, and World in spoiler):
 Spoiler 
Giro: 
Tour: 
Vuelta: 
World: 
Edited by KenL on 29-09-2015 03:59
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| Mithrillian |
Posted on 29-09-2015 06:03
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Domestique

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KenL wrote:
Been busy with the family, weekends mean wife and eldest Étienne (13) return home from their work and school respectively.
I enlarged the é, and yes it made a hell of a lot of work to move the uvmaps around to accept it.
Here is the results including team logos applied to the frames (Giro,Tour,Vuelta, and World in spoiler):
 Spoiler 
Giro: 
Tour: 
Vuelta: 
World: 
Awesome! Truly Great work! Can't wait to work with this. Huge pack I'm sure!
''The thing I love about PCM is that no other game requires a guide where the sentence "Acceleration does not mean acceleration" is used.'' - cactus-jack
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