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General Be a Pro Discussion
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| vismitananda |
Posted on 01-08-2015 19:02
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superider2010 wrote:
PeterRyder wrote:
Is there any hope of a new patch soon that would make U23 races playable again? 
Because I completly lost the hype of Be a Pro with that...
i just played liege baston liege u23,won it
Nice. I will try it in the future, as of now I am continuing my young 20 yr old climber on his first Grand tour.
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| vismitananda |
Posted on 01-08-2015 19:06
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ruben wrote:
superider2010 wrote:
PeterRyder wrote:
Is there any hope of a new patch soon that would make U23 races playable again?
Because I completly lost the hype of Be a Pro with that...
i just played liege baston liege u23,won it .
People keep confusing N.cup races with U23
U23 is still very much raceable. NCup isn't.
Thanks, I really thought U23 races are those Ncup.
What is this Ncup races? Are these junior national championships?
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| vismitananda |
Posted on 01-08-2015 19:09
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Yes you can, you will find it in My Documents/Pcm15folder/user/
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| glpsace |
Posted on 01-08-2015 20:57
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Hello guys,
I have been creating many riders just to understand the limits of each type of rider. My usual favorites are stage and mountain racers.
However I´m a little puzzled. If you check complete riders like Froome or Contador they are very strong, or strong enough, in every important stat, like MO / Hill / TT / Acc / End / Res / Rec. However in our created riders, in the more similar categories to the riders I´ve just stated, either they lack big in Acc (for stage racers) or TT (for mountain riders).
I hoped we could raise some similar riders without having to edit a few stats but after many potential trials, I´ve realized that is not possible without a few tweaks. Still stage racers are the closest to what I pretend in a rider. Just a shame for the acceleration stat – the maximum I ever got as potential stat was 70.
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| Humlesnur |
Posted on 02-08-2015 01:28
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As outlined in the spreadsheet from the previous page stats are capped according to the chosen rider type. This is somewhat necessary since the rider types would otherwise be meaningless e.g. if you could train a climber to become a world class sprinter. That said I still think that the current caps limits player freedom far to much as you can't really mould your own rider and every pro of a specific category will always turn out almost exactly the same. This sadly makes for rather dull and monotonous game play. |
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| kostracik |
Posted on 02-08-2015 07:42
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My first attempt at mixed training. Cyclist specialization is northern classic.
training process: to lvl12 baroudeur training.
then to lvl19 puncher
once baroudeur
lvl 20 until the end of the northern classic
attributes is at 23: FLA82, MON63, HIL76, TTR70, PRL 74, COB83, SPR77, ACC80, DHI71, FTR73, STA85, RES 76, 67 REC
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| DaSiimM |
Posted on 02-08-2015 22:08
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Quick question:
I suppose this has already been asked and answered, but does anyone know for how long your career goes on? My pro cyclist is currently 36 years old, and his stats are declinging worringly rapid, and I really don't feel like keep playing if he wound up even worse than what he started as. Would quite fancy quitting at the top. |
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| w1zz |
Posted on 02-08-2015 22:53
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Maybe this has been asked before, but I just won my first race as a pro, but it's a U23 race (first stage of the Tour d'Isard). I receive all the experience, but I don't unlock the HC races, where it still says I have to win my first race. Doesn't the U23 races count as a win? |
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| totto |
Posted on 03-08-2015 02:41
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Not yet tried but I was wondering if the difficulty level in "Be a pro" mode is applied only to human controlled rider or to the whole team?
(obviously, the correct way to do it is only on human controlled rider) |
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| totto |
Posted on 03-08-2015 02:41
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w1zz wrote:
Maybe this has been asked before, but I just won my first race as a pro, but it's a U23 race (first stage of the Tour d'Isard). I receive all the experience, but I don't unlock the HC races, where it still says I have to win my first race. Doesn't the U23 races count as a win? No, the problem is that you only won a stage, not the race... |
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| mama99ai |
Posted on 03-08-2015 10:30
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I struggle with finding a tactic for TTT, Team Time Trials, in the ProCyclist mode.
I am a stage rider with about 65 in flat, but 78 in time trial. I have won the French time trial championship. I am often the best time trialist on my team.
I experience that my team run out of energy way before me. Maybe to be expected, but I am having a hard time figuring out how to get the optimal combination between my own effort and time I lead out the group, keeping my team riders from getting dropped too fast, and getting a decent time.
My team is often 45-55 seconds behind the best teams in team time trials.
Have anybody figured out how to do this best?
So far I have set the time I lead the team to maximum time and tried to adjust the effort to keep most team members. But it isn't quite working out for me.
-Should I wait to lead out until the end of the race?
-Should I set the time I lead out to the same, more or less than team mates?
-Should I just keep the settings at standard and just accept that my team is not better?
-Something else?
I hope some of you have some useful experience. Thanks in advance. |
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| Anderis |
Posted on 03-08-2015 10:52
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mama99ai wrote:
I struggle with finding a tactic for TTT, Team Time Trials, in the ProCyclist mode.
I think the best way to go if you're the best TT rider in the team is to take long pulls with moderate effort, so the rest of the team doesn't get tired because of high pace you set, but also can spend more time behind you, saving energy. I have not done much of this, though, so it's only a free thought.
What is the most overpowered team you have seen in this game? I'm now riding Giro in my 5th season. And there is Astana with Quintana (83 MO), Bardet (83 MO), Formolo (83 MO), Landa (83 MO), Pinot (82 MO), Ravasi (81 MO) and Gallardo (79 MO). They're all in one team and riding the same Giro! Astana have 4 of something like 7 or 8 best climbers in the game and send them all to Giro. Realistic...  |
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| w1zz |
Posted on 03-08-2015 12:38
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totto wrote:
w1zz wrote:
Maybe this has been asked before, but I just won my first race as a pro, but it's a U23 race (first stage of the Tour d'Isard). I receive all the experience, but I don't unlock the HC races, where it still says I have to win my first race. Doesn't the U23 races count as a win? No, the problem is that you only won a stage, not the race...
Cheers. I just won the whole Tour de l'Isard, and indeed got now access to the HC races. |
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| zuff |
Posted on 03-08-2015 14:27
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mama99ai wrote:
I struggle with finding a tactic for TTT, Team Time Trials, in the ProCyclist mode.
I am a stage rider with about 65 in flat, but 78 in time trial. I have won the French time trial championship. I am often the best time trialist on my team.
I experience that my team run out of energy way before me. Maybe to be expected, but I am having a hard time figuring out how to get the optimal combination between my own effort and time I lead out the group, keeping my team riders from getting dropped too fast, and getting a decent time.
My team is often 45-55 seconds behind the best teams in team time trials.
Have anybody figured out how to do this best?
So far I have set the time I lead the team to maximum time and tried to adjust the effort to keep most team members. But it isn't quite working out for me.
-Should I wait to lead out until the end of the race?
-Should I set the time I lead out to the same, more or less than team mates?
-Should I just keep the settings at standard and just accept that my team is not better?
-Something else?
I hope some of you have some useful experience. Thanks in advance.
my tactic is simple and i'm not doing too bad. i just keep everybody on same effort level but put the best TT riders to take mega relays and the rest of the guys to take minimal relays |
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| glpsace |
Posted on 03-08-2015 18:40
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DaSiimM wrote:
Quick question:
I suppose this has already been asked and answered, but does anyone know for how long your career goes on? My pro cyclist is currently 36 years old, and his stats are declinging worringly rapid, and I really don't feel like keep playing if he wound up even worse than what he started as. Would quite fancy quitting at the top.
This is a very interesting question. I believe it is not the first time it has been asked but I can´t remeber to read a straight forward answer. I really hope that you rider is abble to retire sooner or later, otherwise, for me, it represents a serious flaw in this mode. What is the option? Just quit the game you have invested so much in? I guess a feeling of acoumplishness, just by retiring is a very important featur that I refuse to believe may not be available in the pro mode!
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| glpsace |
Posted on 03-08-2015 18:54
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Hello again,
I just want to make sure I´m not missing something out in the negotiation matter.
So usually, once you´re negotiationg a new contract, I realised that if you ask for someting higher than what it is advised to you, the team will refuse it. Plus, once it is refused, you don´t have a chance to keep negotiating with that team. So, for example if the advise is to ask for 8000 Euros, if you ask for 8500 Euros, every team will refuse ir with the downside that negotiations are closed for the teams who just refused you. On the other side if you ask for the 8000 Euros, every single team will accept the value and it is just a matter of choosing the team you want to go to. I mean, I´m used to the previous PCM career negotiating system which was not perfect but at least you could really negotiate with sponsors. What kind of system is this in pro-mode? I really consider it very basic and it is kind of disapointing, really.
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| ricotero_uy |
Posted on 03-08-2015 19:59
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In my 2 careers (sprinter and stage racer) after playing a bit, I can tell you that you can ask for a little bit more. At the first contract, may be 500 more. At the second contract, between 1500 and 2000 more.
If you have more than one team, and you choose one (because of the teammates for next season) the idea is that you offer first to other teams, and see how much is the top you can ask. I think everytime has the same top salary for you, so you can guess that top salary asking for more money to other teams, and when you have your top (i.e.: 36000 yes, 36500 no) then ask 36000 to your chosen team. |
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| glpsace |
Posted on 03-08-2015 20:36
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ricotero_uy wrote:
In my 2 careers (sprinter and stage racer) after playing a bit, I can tell you that you can ask for a little bit more. At the first contract, may be 500 more. At the second contract, between 1500 and 2000 more.
If you have more than one team, and you choose one (because of the teammates for next season) the idea is that you offer first to other teams, and see how much is the top you can ask. I think everytime has the same top salary for you, so you can guess that top salary asking for more money to other teams, and when you have your top (i.e.: 36000 yes, 36500 no) then ask 36000 to your chosen team.
Then I guess I was just unlucky because I did that and nobody accepted the 500 more I proposed (that minimum raise allowed). Still, you just said it right... whatever it is, it is still the same for every team (Tour / Pro or just Continental) and that is just dull in my book. Also the fact you have just one shot in terms of negotiation whit each team, makes me wonder if it is some sort of bug, because it doens´t make any sense to me, but maybe I´m just missing something out.
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| zuff |
Posted on 03-08-2015 20:42
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on the other hand, at this stage, money is of no intereste whatsoever so it doesn't really matter what wages you get imho. I think this "be a pro" mode is a very good idea and this year is a kinda first try and not a bad one i think. i do hope for it to be developped much further next year though  |
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| glpsace |
Posted on 03-08-2015 21:40
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zuff wrote:
on the other hand, at this stage, money is of no intereste whatsoever so it doesn't really matter what wages you get imho. I think this "be a pro" mode is a very good idea and this year is a kinda first try and not a bad one i think. i do hope for it to be developped much further next year though
Indeed, don´t get me wrong. I´m not trashing it, in fact I love it! And yes, I know that wages are of no interest in the mode, still it is a question of personal prestige, the idea it gould give you that a team wants you more than another, whatever impression it would give you. I´m also concerned about the idea that your player may not retire, just loosing abilities. As anyone finished a pro-mode career in order to tell teh rest of us what we may expect near the end?
I really think this mode was a great idea, I didn´t even tried the usual carrer mode in this PCM edition (which I played exclusevily year after year) which gives a good idea of how much I´m enjoying it. Still I believe it is important to understand what could be improves, for future editions, in order to get the best experience of this simulation mode.
Cheers. |
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