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Giro di Lombardia - DIscussion
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| Ulrich Ulriksen |
Posted on 30-05-2025 02:37
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 Giro di Lombardia
The race will post sometime over the weekend although not sure when but figured I would get this up since Fab has teed up the points situation here
The Giro di Lombardia marks the end of the pro tour season, not just symbolically but literally in the mangame. This year the riders get a new route that goes from Varese to Bergamo, a little longer then last year at 255k but an easier run in. While last year featured the Civigio (4.3k at 9.8%) and San Fermo della Bataglia climbs (2.5k at 7.7%) both in the last few kilometers this year the last major climb (Forcella di Berbeno, 8.8k at 4.6%) peaks about 20 from the end and then the riders have just one more small climb, Bergamo Alta (1.3k at 9%) before the finish.
Last year  Herklotz took the win, his first and the first by a grand tour winner since Spilak in 2017. The previous few years were won by puncheurs in Sagan and Yates. Neither is back but 2020 winner  Lopez is, he is a rider who will be disappointed if he ends his career with only 1 win in this race.
The first set of riders we look at are the puncheurs and the hybrids plus the Herklotz, a special class of one. Many of these riders will be hoping the easier parcours is in their favor.  Skujins will try to lead Tinkoff to PT title glory but he is one of the weakest climbers on the list.
More likely candidates for the win are Herklotz and Lopez.  Areruya is the closest to these two but there are other strong all-rounders on the startlist, names like  Ardila,  Higuita,  Formolo and  Valter. The latter two were 5th and 3rd last year. Ardilla isn’t known for his strong secondaries which could handicap him in a 250k race.
If the course does ride a lot easier then  Vansevenant seems like a great candidate, he has been effective on pretty much every terrain he has ridden this year.
| Rider | MT | HI | RS | ST | AC | | Lopez | 80 | 84 | 74 | 76 | 78 |  Gidich | 76 | 83 | 77 | 78 | 75 |  Mohoric | 71 | 83 | 72 | 78 | 77 |  De Bie | 70 | 83 | 75 | 76 | 74 | | Skujins | 69 | 82 | 76 | 79 | 75 | | Herklotz | 84 | 81 | 80 | 79 | 76 | | Areruya | 81 | 81 | 78 | 76 | 76 | | Ardila | 81 | 80 | 70 | 69 | 75 | | Higuita | 79 | 80 | 78 | 76 | 75 | | Formolo | 79 | 80 | 76 | 76 | 71 | | Valter | 78 | 80 | 75 | 76 | 78 |  Aranburu | 77 | 80 | 79 | 70 | 71 | | Vansevenant | 74 | 80 | 78 | 79 | 80 |  Gesbert | 74 | 80 | 78 | 80 | 73 |  Romo | 72 | 80 | 76 | 78 | 71 |
The second group of contenders is the climbers. Tour de France winner  Kudus carries the hopes of Moser to avoid relegation on his back and is the best pure climber in the race. At the other end of the PT table Gazelle have gone for  Dombrowsk ahead of Lutsenko to carry their hopes. Tinkoff have covered their bases with Sivakov joining Skujins on the startlist. On this list Hirt, 2nd, and  Latour, 4th, were strong last year. Although the Czech rider is not as young as he was. Amezawa (7th last year) gives MOL a really strong 1-2 punch with Ardila and he doesn’t suffer the same weaknesses as the Colombian.
| Rider | MT | HI | RS | ST | AC | | Kudus | 85 | 78 | 77 | 79 | 70 | | Dombrowski | 83 | 74 | 77 | 79 | 74 | | Haig | 83 | 74 | 75 | 76 | 73 | | Latour | 81 | 75 | 78 | 80 | 74 | | Galta | 81 | 73 | 79 | 78 | 66 | | Sivakov | 81 | 72 | 77 | 79 | 69 |  Shikai | 81 | 71 | 76 | 74 | 67 | | Amezawa | 80 | 77 | 78 | 76 | 75 | | Warchol | 80 | 74 | 77 | 76 | 70 | | Hirt | 80 | 73 | 78 | 76 | 75 | | Inkelaar | 80 | 70 | 76 | 75 | 74 |
Popo4ever are the only wild card here, so 23 teams take to the start.
Startlist
Spoiler | Attila Valter | Aker - MOT | | Chris Harper | Aker - MOT | | Nicola Bagioli | Aker - MOT | | Sebastian Berwick | Aker - MOT | | Edison Bravo | Aker - MOT | | Torkil Veyhe | Aker - MOT | | Alexander Kamp | Aker - MOT | | Marc Potts | Aker - MOT | | Ben O'Connor | Assa Abloy | | Johan Esteban Chaves | Assa Abloy | | Elie Gesbert | Assa Abloy | | Jacopo Mosca | Assa Abloy | | Jaako Hänninen | Assa Abloy | | Linus Kvist | Assa Abloy | | Yoan Kolev | Assa Abloy | | William Blume Levy | Assa Abloy | | Fredrik Strand Galta | Carlsberg - Danske Bank | | Jonas Gregaard | Carlsberg - Danske Bank | | Alex Aranburu | Carlsberg - Danske Bank | | Niklas Eg | Carlsberg - Danske Bank | | Patrick Olesen | Carlsberg - Danske Bank | | Gyasi Sulvaran | Carlsberg - Danske Bank | | Alexandros Matsangos | Carlsberg - Danske Bank | | Lukas Meiler | Carlsberg - Danske Bank | | Robert Power | Cedevita | | Daniel Hoelgaard | Cedevita | | Husein Selimovic | Cedevita | | Dylan Redy | Cedevita | | Michael Christodoulos | Cedevita | | Riley Sheehan | Cedevita | | Kees Duyvesteyn | Cedevita | | Yevgeniy Fedorov | Cedevita | | Stephen Williams | cycleYorkshire | | Kenny Elissonde | cycleYorkshire | | Anders Skaarseth | cycleYorkshire | | Thomas Gloag | cycleYorkshire | | Javier Romo | cycleYorkshire | | Matthew Holmes | cycleYorkshire | | Kasper Asgreen | cycleYorkshire | | Joni Kanerva | cycleYorkshire | | Michel Ries | EA Vesuvio | | Ahmad Firdaus | EA Vesuvio | | Luc Wirtgen | EA Vesuvio | | Gordian Banzer | EA Vesuvio | | Matej Mohoric | EA Vesuvio | | Naveen John | EA Vesuvio | | Kevin Geniets | EA Vesuvio | | Kevin Vermaerke | EA Vesuvio | | Miguel Angel Lopez | Evonik - ELKO | | Martins Blums | Evonik - ELKO | | Eriks Toms Gavars | Evonik - ELKO | | Jan Polanc | Evonik - ELKO | | Alekss Krasts | Evonik - ELKO | | Patrick Konrad | Evonik - ELKO | | Kristers Ansons | Evonik - ELKO | | Filippo Baroncini | Evonik - ELKO | | Mauri Vansevenant | Fastned | | Nico Denz | Fastned | | Florian Lipowitz | Fastned | | Michel Hessmann | Fastned | | Sjoerd Bax | Fastned | | Thibault Guernalec | Fastned | | Jack Bobridge | Fastned | | Arvid De Kleijn | Fastned | | Joseph Dombrowski | Gazelle | | Bartosz Warchol | Gazelle | | Giovanni Carboni | Gazelle | | Manuel Senni | Gazelle | | Louis Vervaeke | Gazelle | | Giovanni Aleotti | Gazelle | | Nans Peters | Gazelle | | Kamil Malecki | Gazelle | | Magnus Cort Nielsen | Grieg-Maersk | | Jonas Vingegaard | Grieg-Maersk | | Benjamin Brkic | Grieg-Maersk | | Samuel Ssabagwanya | Grieg-Maersk | | Roger Adria | Grieg-Maersk | | David Gaudu | Grieg-Maersk | | Amanuel Gebrezgabihier | Grieg-Maersk | | Jonas Abrahamsen | Grieg-Maersk | | Valentin Darbellay | Jura GIANTS | | Mauro Schmid | Jura GIANTS | | Teten Rohendi | Jura GIANTS | | Clement Berthet | Jura GIANTS | | Xuban Errazkin | Jura GIANTS | | Andreas Odie Purnama Setiawa | Jura GIANTS | | Felix Stehli | Jura GIANTS | | Hugo Page | Jura GIANTS | | Thanakhan Chaiyasombat | King Power | | Einer Augusto Rubio | King Power | | Ka Hoo Fung | King Power | | Sakchai Phodingam | King Power | | Yevgeniy Gidich | King Power | | Ronnilan Quita | King Power | | Ho San Chiu | King Power | | Milan Menten | King Power | | Jack Burke | Lidl Cycling | | Ignacio Jesus Prado | Lidl Cycling | | Nicholas Schultz | Lidl Cycling | | Jay Vine | Lidl Cycling | | Alberto Bettiol | Lidl Cycling | | Leo Vincent | Lidl Cycling | | Sean De Bie | Lidl Cycling | | Mathieu Van der Poel | Lidl Cycling | | Jack Haig | MOL Cycling Team | | Andres Camilo Ardila | MOL Cycling Team | | Takeaki Amezawa | MOL Cycling Team | | George Alexandru Stancu | MOL Cycling Team | | Brendan Rhim | MOL Cycling Team | | Abel Kenyeres | MOL Cycling Team | | Marton Dina | MOL Cycling Team | | Jacob Morales Ortega | MOL Cycling Team | | Merhawi Kudus | Moser - Sygic | | Jan Hirt | Moser - Sygic | | Michael Kolar | Moser - Sygic | | Josef Hosek | Moser - Sygic | | Josef Cerny | Moser - Sygic | | Dominik Neuman | Moser - Sygic | | Matus Stocek | Moser - Sygic | | Adam Toupalik | Moser - Sygic | | Sergio Higuita | Oxxo - Frisby | | Yesid Albeiro Pira | Oxxo - Frisby | | Alejandro Osorio | Oxxo - Frisby | | Didier Merchan | Oxxo - Frisby | | Guillermo Andres Beltran | Oxxo - Frisby | | Oscar Samuel Galvan Ramirez | Oxxo - Frisby | | Ben Healy | Oxxo - Frisby | | Daniel Eaton | Oxxo - Frisby | | Pierre Latour | Polar | | Kevin Inkelaar | Polar | | Enric Mas | Polar | | Mektel Eyob | Polar | | Daniel Alexander Jaramillo | Polar | | Cyril Barthe | Polar | | Stefano Oldani | Polar | | Edoardo Zambanini | Polar | | Davide Formolo | Rabobank | | Clement Champoussin | Rabobank | | Antwan Tolhoek | Rabobank | | Remco Evenepoel | Rabobank | | Frank Van den Broek | Rabobank | | Juan Sossa | Rabobank | | Marco Frigo | Rabobank | | Marijn Van Den Berg | Rabobank | | Yuriy Vasyliv | Team Popo4Ever p/b Morshynska | | Nicolae Tanovitchii | Team Popo4Ever p/b Morshynska | | Martin Papanov | Team Popo4Ever p/b Morshynska | | Zouzou Andriafenomananiaina | Team Popo4Ever p/b Morshynska | | Matic Zumer | Team Popo4Ever p/b Morshynska | | Nika Sitchinava | Team Popo4Ever p/b Morshynska | | Roman Gladysh | Team Popo4Ever p/b Morshynska | | Peter Varga | Team Popo4Ever p/b Morshynska | | Silvio Herklotz | Team Puma - SAP | | Ben Zwiehoff | Team Puma - SAP | | Georg Zimmermann | Team Puma - SAP | | Valentin Madouas | Team Puma - SAP | | Florian Stork | Team Puma - SAP | | Johannes Schinnagel | Team Puma - SAP | | Ilan Van Wilder | Team Puma - SAP | | Nik Cemazar | Team Puma - SAP | | Pavel Sivakov | Tinkoff Team - La Datcha | | Matvey Mamykin | Tinkoff Team - La Datcha | | Savva Novikov | Tinkoff Team - La Datcha | | Alexander Vlasov | Tinkoff Team - La Datcha | | Aleksey Rybalkin | Tinkoff Team - La Datcha | | Alexander Foliforov | Tinkoff Team - La Datcha | | Dmitry Trakhov | Tinkoff Team - La Datcha | | Toms Skujins | Tinkoff Team - La Datcha | | Joseph Areruya | Xero Racing | | Sergei Pomoshnikov | Xero Racing | | Guillaume Martin | Xero Racing | | Farzad Khodayari | Xero Racing | | Corbin Strong | Xero Racing | | Johann Van Zyl | Xero Racing | | Henok Tesfaye Heyi | Xero Racing | | Hamish Schreurs | Xero Racing | | Chen Shikai | ZARA - Irizar | | Oscar Rodriguez | ZARA - Irizar | | Michael Storer | ZARA - Irizar | | Jan Dieteren | ZARA - Irizar | | Leonardo Henrique Finkler | ZARA - Irizar | | Pau Miquel | ZARA - Irizar | | Luis Fernando De La Cruz Chapulin | ZARA - Irizar | | Jasper Stuyven | ZARA - Irizar |
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| Bjartne |
Posted on 30-05-2025 05:32
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Hmm, I seem to have messed up and instead of puncheurs, I have been sending all of my sprinters here. Wish me luck 
Edited by Bjartne on 30-05-2025 16:22
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 30-05-2025 05:54
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Thanks for the preview! Think the startlist may be the wrong image though.
Getting a little too optimistic now looking at the startlist. Last year climbers did very well, so I feel like we should be able to keep a 74 point gap to cycleYorkshire with Aranburu + Galta vs. Romo. But anything can happen with the monument points scale allowing for a wide range of outcomes. Xero will crush us, but it feels like we could end up anywhere from 9th-11th based on this one final race. Let's go team!
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| redordead |
Posted on 30-05-2025 07:35
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Nothing else we can do, but chill and see what happens.
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| Caspi |
Posted on 30-05-2025 08:07
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Quite sure we aren't in Lombardia, so the startlist is probably wrong.
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| DubbelDekker |
Posted on 30-05-2025 08:48
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Alright, here we go! The race that decides it all.
All our eggs are in the climbing basket. Those three mountains before the final will have to shed the pure puncheurs. If that happens, Dombrowski and the climbing team have a good chance of outscoring Tinkoff. But if the pace over the mountains is low and Skujins hangs on, we're most likely in trouble.
Curious to analyse Tinkoff's climbing depth. Will need to wait for the fixed startlist to see that.
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| alexkr00 |
Posted on 30-05-2025 09:11
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Was not expecting this not to be a crucial race for us in the relegation battle. But I'm happy there's no big pressure on Formolo to deliver though we do need a top 10 for our season goals.
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| Fabianski |
Posted on 30-05-2025 13:27
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The race looks quite a bit easier in the final 50km or so than last year, so our sponsors thought it'd be a good idea to make this a Top 10 goal... Achieving this will solely depend on Schmid, and looking at recent results and at the startlist, I guess it's going to be almost impossible. Sure, he's stronger on long climbs than many other puncheurs, but with all of those top-level climbers present, it'll be tough...
Looking forward to see how it goes, fortunately "just" the sponsor goal at stake for us. Could still make or break our 2025 season, though, as we won't be able to do much during transfers if we fail that goal as well ^^
Thanks for the preview!
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| Ulrich Ulriksen |
Posted on 31-05-2025 01:48
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Sorry about the startlist, forgot I hadn't actually generated it. Have put a simple list up for now. Will add the bib numbers when I have it.
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| ember |
Posted on 31-05-2025 05:08
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Thank you for the preview, UU! Definitely a race where
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| Ulrich Ulriksen |
Posted on 31-05-2025 20:27
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Lombardia Startlist
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| Heine |
Posted on 31-05-2025 20:43
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Quick poll on Discord says that Gazelle will secure the PT crown over Tinkoff here
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| jaxika |
Posted on 01-06-2025 17:17
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Back to the PCT, it seems. Some mistakes from the management, but will learn from this... I hope. Congrats for the winner and for Gazelle. Thanks for the report, was very detailed and interesting! |
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| ember |
Posted on 01-06-2025 19:43
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Another veeery close monument miss regarding the win by Valter. And this one I really felt he had. Kind of heartbreak to see him caught on the line, as it felt like he was the one making his and Quita's attack stick, and then when he even came back on Quita in the sprint, I really thought it was meant to be. Guess we next season have to go top 3 in all possible monuments
Congratulations on the monument, jandal. Another one! 
And what a title fight that was, thank you for your extensive coverage of it, UU. That was definitely a nailbiter to follow. Big congratulations, DD. Will write more in the final rankings thread  |
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| Fabianski |
Posted on 01-06-2025 21:29
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First of all, huge thanks for the great report to UU. As you know, I love stats - and there were soooo many of them, no clue how you managed to gather all of them in a reasonable amount of time!
And it was a great summary both of the live action and the title fight, thanks for that as well!
Congrats to jandal on the 2nd monument win of the year, pretty extraordinary stuff for a newly promoted team - and even more so given that both winners were already on your PCT roster!
Congrats also to Gazelle on another PT title! The route change definitely didn't play in Dombrowski's favour, being clearly more puncheur friendly than in 2023 (which I was obviously hoping for). But your amazing depth was still enough to secure the title.
Key race for you in my opinion: Lutsenko's outstanding Giro performance! It was quite a risk to send him there, but it fully paid off! He may have been overtaken in pure puncheur races by the likes of Areruya, Valter or Vansevenant - but his great show in the Giro brought you these much-needed points!
For my own team, definitely an awesome end to the season. We were aggressive all day long, just like I love to see it. First Stehli in the break (where was he during the rest of the year?). Then Schmid, followed by Errazkin. OK, maybe he could've taken even more than 5th without spending the energy in that early attack, but Schmid did an awesome job in the finale! Almost a podium - but I guess we need to keep some room for improvement for next year (unlike Xero ). And it's still our best monument result by far this year - not only the first Top 10, but even a Top 5! Well done to Mauro to secure at least this sponsor goal, after the ToNE blunder. This could be a crucial result for next year's budget!
And last but not least, congrats to Oxxo for finally staying up, after having so much bad luck this year. I'd definitely have loved to see Kudus mounting a proper challenge, but the route didn't suit him, either. So it's weird to see the TdF winner and the Vuelta points winner go down, but yeah, shit happens...
Thanks again for the massive report, and see you all next year!
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| DubbelDekker |
Posted on 01-06-2025 22:32
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Thanks for the amazing report, UU. Loved the stats and the detailed updates of the PT title situation. Reading that was very immersive and tense!
Gradually it dawned on me that the mountains were not inflicting any casualties at all and that most likely MO was going to be way less of a factor than in previous editions of Lombardy (or even the recent Japan Cup).
This turned us from a strong team with a clear leader (MO values 83, 80, 79, 77, 76, 74, 74, 73) into a leaderless blob of mediocre puncheurs (HI values 76, 76, 76, 76, 74, 74, 73, 73). Worrying.
But the blob delivered.  As the peloton split and mended throughout the race, we always had one or two riders at the front and another bunch staying close. Tinkoff never managed to outnumber us. Especially Carboni was doing a great job marking them.
Going into the final sprint it was clear that we were going to outscore Tinkoff in terms of depth and that the only thing that could win the title for them was Skujins getting in or near the top 5 and Carboni at least ten places lower.
Under the 1km banner this was still possible, with Skujins sitting in a good second row position. But about 500 meters later it was clear that he and Carboni were the slowest sprinters in the group. The PT title being decided in the last km of the last race is pretty damn cool.
Congrats jandal on another big win! And also massive result for King Power.
Got to go sleep. Will comment on the title in the final ranking update thread tomorrow.
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| AbhishekLFC |
Posted on 02-06-2025 06:40
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Damn, what a report Ulrich!
Fitting report for a classic PT title and relegation decider! The race itself was also exciting, with yet another great win for Areruya and jandal
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| redordead |
Posted on 02-06-2025 07:20
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Awesome report UU!
For us it was a drama free race as I hoped. Hoelgaard in 23rd is a nice end to what was a solid season for him.
Congrats to Xero, Areruya is too good sometimes
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| roturn |
Posted on 02-06-2025 07:45
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Huge report with all the spoilers and what if and where are they now!
Liked it a lot. In especially the Bobridge part obviously.
Areruya takes the favourite win here, whereas Herklotz underperformed.
Vansevenant in 8th is fine. Obviously always hoping for more, but not many riders attempt a 65 km solo attack and still keep up till the finale to sprint for points. |
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| Imladrik |
Posted on 02-06-2025 09:30
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Tremendous report! Thanks a lot for the read.
And congrats jandal for the win, DD for the title.
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