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[CT] SEE Turtles '24 | January Preview
Caspi
I really like your goals. Uppsala will be very tough, but all five can potentially be reached with some luck.
I think you'll achieve success in Monterrey and either Olympia or La Tropicale Amissa Bongo, leaving you with two or three goals in the bag end-of-season, depending on the final team standings.
 
seancoll
@Caspi I was really hoping when I sent in my goals that I could catch some teams off guard in Uppsala if people didn't notice the parcours change. I think that I've missed the mark there, but we shall see. It's unlikely for a win, but I should still be able to get some top results. Plus, I knew my win goal would be the least likely of my race goals, as I think the others are all relatively achievable.

@TheManxMissile Oh I'm ready for the frustrations. I've avoided a lot of uphills, but you can't avoid them all so hoping to just get a few breakaway appearances TTT successes in the other races I had to fill the calendar with. Otherwise, I feel like this was worth the risk this year. Nothing wrong with being a mid-table team, at least because I think I've avoided the bottom with this strategy.

@DarkWolf I think sprint will definitely matter, especially if you're planning on bringing Coquard (please don't). I knew it was a huge risk going for this one, but I think the PR will make more of a difference than last year even. Given there's no long ITT, it should mostly be sprinters with PRL stats at the top, followed by the specialists would be my guess. I'm totally fine if we both find success.
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SEE Turtles 2024 Point Predictions


This endeavor is a new one for us this year, with nothing other than the a year of experience under our belt. As I indicated in my "semi-lazy, semi-flawed" preview, I think this prediction is very aggressive, but I do feel achievable. Even if the results come out a few hundred points below, we think this team is set up for success!

Time Trial Specialists

Name2023 PointsProjected Points
Atsushi Oka170134
Faycal Hamza196181
Julian Cardona80176
Similo Nyoni10175


The point totals here rely on a few assumptions - 1) Our top 5 TTTers are the first 5 to cross the line in our TTT races; 2) Our TTT strategy from 2023 holds strong; 3) Unnecessary splits don't hurt us on flat stages. Just like last season, we are hoping for major point hauls in a couple of TT specific races - Olympia's Tour, Herald Sun Tour, C1+C2 TTT classics, Post Danmark Rundt, and La Tropicale Amissa Bongo. While we haven't predicted quite the success we had last year there, we do think those will be major factors for us and be the determining factor of the season.


Sprinters

Name2023 PointsProjected Points
German Nicolas Tivani182208
Luke Keough170312
Alex Frame40134

Keough is our predicted top scorer, and he better be for the fee we paid this year. Keough's scoring relies on races like Uppsala Classic, Baltic Chain Tour, and La Tropicale Amissa Bongo more than anywhere else. His combination of sprint and prologue needs to carry him through this year. Tivani also sees an increase this year based on race allocation. He will see a huge number of flat classics and even just averaging 15th in a C1/HC field and 7th in C2 fields should bring him an increased total. A win or two somewhere doesn't seem out of the question. Frame also looks for GC results in our prologue races and an occasional sprint point.


Cobblers

Name2023 PointsProjected Points
German Anibal Orue51154
Jimmy Muhindo1622
Chequan Richardson4289
Robert Bush1095
Leandro Marcos901


With only Richardson competing in CT last season and the SEE Turtles completely avoiding anything that even looks like a cobble, we had no idea what should happen here. Still, we are hoping that Orue and Richardson mainly get depth results - somewhere 10-15th by making the final group in most races and occasionally breaking through otherwise. With no finishing points, Marcos, Bush and Muhindo won't rack up points much, but maybe with some even weaker CT cobble fields they'll earn more than expected.


Domestiques

Name2023 PointsProjected Points
Kashyapa Siriwardena3316
Ahmad Arissol90
Bryan Raul Obando30
Harold Martin Lopez10
Joshua Kelly8860
Franklin Joel Revelo--0
Finn Fisher-Black710
Magnus Sheffield--5


Kelly has to sit here as a domestique, but major points are expected due to the TTT. Siriwardena also expects to benefit from the TTT setup and find some lower level GC results throughout the season when they can figure out not to lose time in the mountains - like in Tour de Vineyards last year. No major expectations for our other domestiques, but hopefully they score in a breakaway or manage a nice result somewhere.

Official Total Prediction: 1722 points
It would take a fantastic season to hit this prediction, but we think we can find the points to at least challenge this. The increase challenge of TTers in the division will certainly be a hurdle, but we're ready to face it.
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Many thanks to those who inspired this post
MG Manager - SEE Turtles
 
Laurens147
Cool to see another points prediction Smile My worry is the sprint department, that 654 seems like a lot of expected points for the 3 sprinters.

Good luck this season!
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AbhishekLFC
Would be great to see your team climb up the standings and get into promotion contention Grin
 
Nemolito
Sprinting points might be a bit too much indeed, but on the other hand sprinters only need one result above their level in a race like HC/C1 and can get there quickly. And if there is one department where riders can punch above their level, it's definitely this one. I hope FFB does get the 10 points you would like from him Smile
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SEE Turtles January Preview


Down Under Classic - HC

Nat.NameFLMOHISTRSSPACFG
German Anibal Orue6950647770535878
Jimmy Muhindo7458677471686476
Leandro Marcos7361726963646872
Finn Fisher-Black6463646671607169
Harold Martin Lopez6371686769626460
Franklin Joel Revelo6868696768606465
German Nicolas Tivano7063676878777872
Bryan Raul Obando6371696669606274


We open our season on the first day of the season in Australia for the Down Under Classic. We're putting our hopes in Tivani who performed very well against strong PCT competition in the Tour of America last year. A Top 15 is our expectation and given how sprints appear to function, we think this is reasonable even though Tivani sits far down the list of expected sprinters. We also expect to get in the breakaways, even if they are short lived due to stage length. Muhindo, Orue, and Obando all like to find their way to the breakaway. A number of our developing riders also appear here, including Fisher-Black on loan. We had to let him compete close to home.


Nakhon Ratchasima Trophy - C2


Nat.NameFLMOHISTRSSPACFG
German Anibal Orue6950647770535878
Jimmy Muhindo7458677471686476
Leandro Marcos7361726963646872
Finn Fisher-Black6463646671607169
Harold Martin Lopez6371686769626460
Franklin Joel Revelo6868696768606465
German Nicolas Tivano7063676878777872
Bryan Raul Obando6371696669606274


Well, well, look again! It's the exact same team for another flat classic. A much longer race this time, we should be much better equipped to managed a decent breakaway attempt as we expect not to have the strongest sprinter of the group with Tivani although he does manage a long race well. This race went to the breakaway last season, so whether we just hope to put a rider or two there with Tivani a lower tier sprinter. We budgeted a 5th place here which is likely fair too bold, but very achievable.



Our full schedule can be found at the beginning of our HQ and we're excited to try some different races this year. As we are able, we'll try to share our expectations ahead of time, but our original expectations could really be blown out of the water (in a good or bad way) very quickly.
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