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Continental Division Songfestival
Good evening to all and welcome to the first ever edition of the Continental Division Songfestival!

Representatives from all over the world and beyond took a look at the eighteen continental teams, and decided to rank all of them Eurovision-style in five different disciplines: climbing/hills/time trials/sprints and cobbles)

The representatives went on to give out the following points: 12-10-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1. 12 points were awarded to the team they rated the highest in that discipline, 10 points to the second best in their opinion, etc.

Each representative was free to interpret anything the way they wanted. Looking at team strength or not, looking at secondary abilities (for example tt for a climber or sprint for a cobbler), everything was up to them.

Let's have a quick overview of the five representatives, before heading onto our first category soon. First of all we needed someone with a lot of experience in MG to make this prediction look very professional. We think we can say we accomplished that by reeling in a very big Greek fish in SotD. The manager of Elco - Abea has been selected by Greece to give out their points. Another PT manager, albeit with a lot less experience, is me. I am therefore honoured to represent Mexico.

In addition to that we have three top PCT managers also giving their points away. Next to Europe and the American continent Africa will also be represented now, as Bralirwa's manager cunego59 has been selected by the Rwandan government to give out their points. To make it all even more exotic, Asia is also represented in the CDS, with Eden95 being the superstar giving away the Indonesian points. The festival couldn't take place without the man with the most Eurovision puns and references though, meaning Marcovdw is also here to give out his points. In an attempt to make the CDS not just international, but also hopefully extraterrestrial, he will be sending out his points representing the moon.
Big thumps up for your idea, I appreciate every ESC-related (and of course highly scientific and reliable) approach to MG, cycling, sports or anything else (inclouding the actual ESC). But though I'm surely glad you've included the moon (although mars would have been more appropriate), I'm kind of disappointed there's no one representing Australia, who are indeed a keen contestant in ESC Wink

And I'm not just curious for the results but even so (if not slightly more) for marcos puns Banana


First of all, our five representatives had a look at the climbing strength of the eighteen continental teams. Let's find out what points they have given.

PtsThe MoonRwandaGreeceMexico Indonesia
12Jura GIANTSMcCormick Pro CyclingJura GIANTSTryg - GobikJura GIANTS
10McCormick Pro CyclingJura GIANTSMcCormick Pro CyclingAir New Zealand p/b PirelliMcCormick Pro Cycling
8Caja Rural Cycling TeamTryg - GobikCaja Rural Cycling TeamJura GIANTSBWT Hyundai N Cycling
7Air New Zealand p/b PirelliBNZ-Superhero RacingTryg - GobikMcormick Pro CyclingTryg - Gobik
6GlanbiaCaja Rural Cycling TeamAir New Zealand p/b PirelliCaja Rural Cycling TeamBNZ-Superhero Racing
5Tryg - GobikBordeaux Métropole - EuskotrenBNZ-Superhero RacingPas Normal Studios - MikkellerBordeaux Métropole - Euskotren
4BNZ-Superhero RacingAir New Zealand p/b PirelliBordeaux Métropole - EuskotrenBordeaux Métropole - EuskotrenGlanbia
3BWT Hyundai N CyclingBWT Hyundai N CyclingBWT Hyundai N CyclingGlanbiaLe Creuset
2Bordeaux Métropole - EuskotrenPas Normal Studios - MikkellerGlanbiaBWT Hyundai N CyclingCaja Rural Cycling Team
1Tafjord KraftGlanbiaLe CreusetTafjord KraftAir New Zealand p/b Pirelli

And the twelve points go to... several teams. Jura persuaded three out of five representatives to give them twelve points, resulting in being the highest scoring team of the first round of points. With Stüssi possibly being the best stage racer and Masnada and Mäder as super domestiques or being used as leaders theirself, it's very understandable to see why.

McCormick and Tryg also succeeded in scoring twelve points once. The American team has two strong leaders in Warbasse and Kuss with Revard as top domestique, whereas Tryg has the very interesting Schlegel riding for them. Mccormick with a lot of consistency then, as they score ten points three times. Air New Zealand also succeeds in scoring a ten-pointer, as the new team has three 77+ climbers, with Fabbro being the biggest name.

Caja Rural gets two podium spots as well here, thanks to the presence of the old but not rotten Alarcon. Ablenado could be a great domestique for him, while also performing on his own. Hyundai also manages to score eight points once, as they will be Kozhatayev and the very versatile riders of Brändle, Pernsteiner and Ahmad Zamri.

Other teams scoring points in this discipline are BNZ (Vasyliv, Schleck and Schultz), Bordeaux (Itturia and Rochas), Glanbia (Talansky and Mannion), Pas Normal (Aru and Ratiy), Le Creuset (Henao and possibly Teuns) and Tafjord (Hoem and Blikra)

54pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/jur.png Jura GIANTS
49pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/mck.png McCormick Pro Cycling
39pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/trg.png Tryg - Gobik
30pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/cct.png Caja Rural Cycling Team
28pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/anz.png Air New Zealand p/b Pirelli
22pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/bns.png BNZ-Superhero Racing
20pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/bdx.png Bordeaux Métropole - Euskotren
19pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/bwt.png BWT Hyundai N Cycling
16pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/gla.png Glanbia
7pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/pns.png Pas Normal Studios - Mikkeller
4pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/lec.png Le Creuset
2pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/taf.png Tafjord Kraft

If you spot any mistakes feel free to let me know Smile
I love the concept! Such a fun way to shine a light on the CT and do something different.

If this was an actualy song contest obviously Podium Ambition would be bringing some heavy fire power with some of the all-time greats in Pop, Hip Hop, RnB, Reggae, Latin, Calypso and beyond.

As an actualy ranking of skill, genuinely surprised if we score 1pt!

So here's my contribution - gifs Pfft




Good to build up a small lead, which we'll hopefully extend after hills and TTs, as in cobbles and probably sprints as well it'll be "Switzerland: Zero points" Pfft

Thanks for the initiative, great idea! And I really like that CT gets some more attention this year Smile
Whats the point in this when there is no cypriotic ct team to get 12 points from greece in every category?

Mexico giving the least points to american team McCormick Cool

Nah, cool way to give an overview over the different terrains. Adding the text to the points is very crucial to the understanding for someone like me who has no clue who leads which team in ct.
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Great initiative and looking forward to the full analysis Smile
I love the idea!
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Such a fun way to do a CT-preview, kudos!

I hope we'll capture a lot of points in the hilly segment, as well as in the sprints.
Will be fun to see how the final tabel will turn out Smile
I was going to cry with no points until I saw its for climbing lmao. Great initiative Nemo!

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Happy to be a part of this, thanks for the initiative Nemo Smile That was fairly consistent between voters, with just a total of 12 different teams in the respective Top 10s, even if some placings are quite different. I'm curious if that diverges more over the other terrains.
Btw, given the amount of TTT-heavy stage races in C2, I could very well see The Moon being the most accurate prediction for Glanbia in terms of climbing points Smile Don't know what parameters all of those selectors took into account for each category - whether those stage races are rather covered by the TT points - but I would definitely love to get some more detailed comments by them (if they want to, obviously) Wink
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Looking forward to the full results. Not sure an American team can expect to do well in an ESC inspired concept, not really in the DNA.
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Btw, given the amount of TTT-heavy stage races in C2, I could very well see The Moon being the most accurate prediction for Glanbia in terms of climbing points Smile Don't know what parameters all of those selectors took into account for each category - whether those stage races are rather covered by the TT points - but I would definitely love to get some more detailed comments by them (if they want to, obviously) Wink

I didn't take a look at the CT calendar much, so I went by pure climbing strength. My criterium was estimated scoring potential in mountain races (again without taking any TT strength into account), so I slightly prioritized top end strength over depth, but I'm not sure if I was consistent with that (see BNZ for instance).

I also valued more well-rounded climbers more highly than high MO guys with low hill, res etc., which is why Caja Rural (Alarcon, Ablenado) and Air New Zealand (Costagli, Diaz) are comparatively low on my list. It also shows again with me placing BNZ as high as 4th for Vasyliv/Schleck/Schultz, which looking at it now might be a bit extreme, but I'll stand by it I guess. And Alarcon certainly has the potential to prove me wrong, too.

In general though, my process wasn't very analytical or anything. I just sorted by mountain stat and team and then scrolled up and down the DB file and made fairly quick decisions on which is the next best team. That's pretty much how I did it with the other terrains, too, iirc.
Absolutely love the idea, so out there but in hindsight such an awesome concept that I'm surprised nobody has done it before. Looking forward to the rest Grin
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Good evening Earth from the beautiful Moon. Thank you so much, thank you Nemolito, uniting us all in the power of predicting continental teams that changes lives and hearts. And it sure changed my life when I was sixteen years old with the team Chiquita - Universal. Six years ago I had the honor of promoting to PCT with the Minions in a very close race with the amazing team Carlsberg from Denmark, so I do know how you manage, manga, managers, eh, managers feel right now. Ooh, I'm a little bit nervous, haha. And remember that we all are winners, carrying the gift of cycling together. So let's be thankful, AI bless you...

"May we have your points please, Marco?"

And now, for the sprinters category:

PtsThe MoonRwandaGreeceMexicoIndonesia
12Tryg - GobikColombini-Adler AalterpaintColombini-Adler AalterpaintTryg - GobikColombini-Adler Aalterpaint
10Oktal Pharma - TotalTVOktal Pharma - TotalTVTryg - GobikColombini-Adler AalterpaintTryg - Gobik
8Pas Normal Studios - MikkellerTryg - GobikTafjord KraftOktal Pharma - TotalTVTafjord Kraft
7Colombini-Adler AalterpaintAir New Zealand p/b PirelliPas Normal Studios - MikkellerAir New Zealand p/b PirelliOktal Pharma - TotalTV
6Air New Zealand p/b PirelliBNZ-Superhero RacingBordeaux Métropole - EuskotrenMcCormick Pro CyclingMcCormick Pro Cycling
5Tafjord KraftMcCormick Pro CyclingBonduelle - Eesti EnergiaBonduelle - Eesti EnergiaBonduelle - Eesti Energia
4McCormick Pro CyclingTafjord KraftAir New Zealand p/b PirelliGlanbiaBNZ-Superhero Racing
3Staffbase - BHPGlanbiaOktal Pharma - TotalTVBNZ-Superhero RacingJura GIANTS
2Bianchi - PaneraiPas Normal Studios - MikkellerMcCormick Pro CyclingJura GIANTSBianchi - Panerai
1GlanbiaBonduelle - Eesti EnergiaJura GIANTSCaja Rural Cycling TeamAir New Zealand p/b Pirelli

The sprinters field in the Continental Tour is usually quite close, and this year is no different. Our experts have given points to fifteen out of eighteen teams, and those who did not score anything still have a competent sprinter (BWT Hyundai with Losch, Le Creuset with Boivin and Podium Ambition with Major).

The douze points were split between two teams. Colombini scores three top scores in this section thanks to Lahcen Saber, in addition to a second and fourth place. The Moon and Mexico instead put Tryg's duet of Kanter and Krieger at the top, with the other spokespeople putting them in the top three as well. In the end, Colombini edges out Tryg by one point.

A distant third is Oktal Pharma with two runner-up positions, some juries liking the acceleration of Perera and Wippert more than others. Air New Zealand (Scully) does not pick up any top three, but a bunch of seven- and six-pointers takes them to fourth tied with Tafjord Kraft (Bertilsson), where the juries are even more split on. Greece and Indonesia put them third, but Mexico omits them completely.

McCormick picks up points from everyone, perhaps because Keough can aim at yellow jerseys in prologues as well. Pas Normal Studios (Matthews and Prasad) receives eight points from The Moon and seven from Greece, but the love is not universal. Greece joins Mexico and Indonesia in giving five points to Bonduelle (Boudat), while half of BNZ's (Nizzolo) points comes from Rwanda.

Glanbia (Bennett and Nelson) failed to gain much traction with the voters but took the odd point, while Bordeaux Métropole (Guerao) only left an impression with the Greek jury. Despite being one of their weaker disciplines, Aregger and Stepniak added six points to Jura's tally. Bianchi (Gibbons) received two points from the Moon and Indonesia each. The former is the only contributor to Staffbase's (Willwohl) total of three, while Mexico saves Caja Rural (Guardini) from the dreaded nul points.

53pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/caa.png Colombini-Adler Aalterpaint
52pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/trg.png Tryg - Gobik
38pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/oph.png Oktal Pharma - TotalTV
25pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/anz.png Air New Zealand p/b Pirelli
25pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/taf.png Tafjord Kraft
23pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/mck.png McCormick Pro Cycling
17pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/pns.png Pas Normal Studios - Mikkeller
16pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/bee.png Bonduelle - Eesti Energia
13pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/bns.png BNZ-Superhero Racing
8pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/gla.png Glanbia
6pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/bdx.png Bordeaux Métropole - Euskotren
6pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/jur.png Jura GIANTS
4pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/bia.png Bianchi - Panerai
3pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/stb.png Staffbase - BHP
1pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/cct.png Caja Rural Cycling Team

I love the style of this preview! I think that third-best in the mountains is probably accurate for us, although probably didn't expect to be so far behind our Swiss & American friends... perhaps Mr Moonman Marco considered Schlegel more of a puncheur than a climber? I think that Nemo probably overrates us though, Schlegel is very similar to Mas but will be riding against a stronger field with less support (especially because Zimmermann is targeting C1 U25 jerseys).

As for sprinters, I can't deny that Saber is the best of this years bunch, but I can only hope that the somewhat incoherent results that PCM's sprint AI provides us will work in our favour here. Max Kanter will be targetting sprinter's classics and stage races, and should benefit from the ability to pick up U25 points. Krieger will be seeking out green jerseys in situations where bumpy days rule the sprinters out of GC contention. I am slightly surprised by how little approval Luke Keough has achieved, that solid prologue stat has resulted in some very nice points totals over the past few years.

We'll see how many more points we can muster together given that most of our investment has been covered in these first few categories...
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pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/trg.png Tryg - Gobik pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/trg.png
Woot, we actually got some points in sprint!
Thanks to the jury for that, erm, songfestival, a very nice reading.
Welcome to all again, as we are heading onto our third out of five categories today, cobbles! With no more mandatory cobbled races on the calendar, some teams decided to care even less about them than they used to. This resulted into six out of eighteen teams not getting any points in this category. Let's have a look at the points given out by our international judges.

Pts.The MoonRwandaGreeceMexico Indonesia
12BWT Hyundai N CyclingBWT Hyundai N CyclingColombini-Adler AaalterpaintColombini-Adler AaalterpaintTafjord Kraft
10Colombini-Adler AaalterpaintColombini-Adler AaalterpaintTafjord KraftBWT Hyundai N CyclingColombini-Adler Aaalterpaint
8Air New Zealand p/b PirelliAir New Zealand p/b PirelliBWT Hyundai N CyclingAir New Zealand p/b PirelliBWT Hyundai N Cycling
7Tafjord KraftPas Normal Studios - MikkellerAir New Zealand p/b PirelliTafjord KraftAir New Zealand p/b Pirelli
6Caja Rural Cycling TeamBianchi - PaneraiCaja Rural Cycling TeamBianchi - PaneraiBianchi - Panerai
5Pas Normal Studios - MikkellerBNZ-Superhero RacingStaffbase - BHPCaja Rural Cycling TeamCaja Rural Cycling Team
4Bianchi - PaneraiCaja Rural Cycling TeamBianchi - PaneraiPas Normal Studios - MikkellerBNZ-Superhero Racing
3BNZ-Superhero RacingBordeaux Métropole - EuskotrenBonduelle - Eest EnergiaBordeaux Métropole - EuskotrenBordeaux Métropole - Euskotren
2Bordeaux Métropole - EuskotrenBonduelle - Eest EnergiaBNZ-Superhero RacingBNZ-Superhero RacingPas Normal Studios - Mikkeller
1Podium AmbitionPodium AmbitionPas Normal Studios - MikkellerStaffbase - BHPBonduelle - Eest Energia

And the winner is... Colombini! Lampaert, Saber and strong domestique De Bondt ensured them twelve points from Greece and Mexico, as well as ten points from the other three judges. BWT Hyundai is a close second here. Fenn, Richardson and Paprstka made sure Rwanda and the Moon gave them twelve points as well.

The other team receiving a douze points is Tafjord Kraft. Indonesia really likes what Breen has to offer, together with Finnish champion Kaislavuo as his most important domestique. In the final ranking they don't rank third though, as that honour goes to Air New Zealand. Scoring eight and seven points very consistently thanks to guys such as Puccio, Nolf and Naesen. Can they become the CT's Crabbe of 2022?

Two other new teams then tied for fifth, as Caja Rural has the dangerous trio of Declerq, Domene and Sinkeldam, whereas Bianchi is counting on the likes of Chatarunga, Hnik and Manakov. Pas Normal proved to be a good team on the cobbles last year with Vanmarcke as their main guy, and aim to keep that status with the Belgian hitting another decline. By his side we will see Taubel and Kristoff, with the former possible being the main guy from now on.

BNZ and Bordeaux also managed scoring more than ten points in this round. The Kiwis have an interesting leader in Orue, assisted by the Mongolians Erdenesuren and Batmunkh. Bordeaux on the other hand will be hoping for a good year of leader Insausti, who has Frenchie Sarreau as his most important domestique. Minor points are also scored by Bonduelle (Merlier), Staffbase (Vermeersch) and Podium Ambition (Matthews).

Cobble PointsTeam
54pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/caa.png Colombini-Adler Aalterpaint
50pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/bwt.png BWT Hyundai N Cycling
38pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/anz.png Air New Zealand p/b Pirelli
36pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/taf.png Tafjord Kraft
26pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/cct.png Caja Rural Cycling Team
26pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/bia.png Bianchi - Panerai
19pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/pns.png Pas Normal Studios - Mikkeller
16pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/bns.png BNZ-Superhero Racing
11pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/bdx.png Bordeaux Métropole - Euskotren
6pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/bee.png Bonduelle - Eesti Energia
6pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/stb.png Staffbase - BHP
2pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2022/Micros/t3a.png Podium Ambition

Points! We got Points!

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