PCM.daily banner
13-08-2022 07:41
Users Online
· Guests Online: 56

· Members Online: 1

· Total Members: 152,298
· Newest Member: addamsjohn
View Thread
PCM.daily » PCM.daily's Management Game » [Cont-Man-Game] General
 Print Thread
GP Herning Discussion

“Something is rotten in the state of Denmark” is the opinion of a certain bloke, named Marcellus. I don’t have all the information to share his point of view, but what I am certain of is there are cobbles in Denmark and we are here to race over them, at GP Herning. Herning is the home turf of Bjarne Riis, the Danish cyclist not only is born in Herning, but also won this race 3 consecutive times (1996, 1997 and 1998).


GP Herning is a constant feature of the Continental MG calendar since 2008, although the 2011, 2013 and 2014 editions were not raced and in 2018 it was run under the HC category. Geraint Thomas dominated the race throughout its MG history, winning it 4 times, 3 of those in consecutive years (2008, 2016, 2017 and 2018). The last winner was the Dutch rider Bert-Jan Lindeman, representing the Minions team, and he is here this year to defend his title. There are 17 teams present at the start line, 7 PCT squads and 10 CT. Which name will be next inscribed in the winners’ record?


2008Geraint ThomasBritish Airways - Cyclingnews
2009Marcel SiebergJack Wolfskin
2010Niels AlbertTeam IKEA - Bianchi
2012JĂ©rome GiauxJayco - Red Bull
2015Fabien TaillefourGenerali - Kronenbourg 1664
2016Geraint ThomasPodium Ambition
2017Geraint ThomasPodium Ambition
2018Geraint ThomasPodium Ambition
2019Niki OstergaardCarlsberg - Danske Bank
2020Bert-Jan LindemanMinions

This year, the list of favorites suggests a close fight for the win, with quite a few riders thriving on this type of terrain. pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2021/Micros/tlt.png Pieter Vanspeybrouck, pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2021/Micros/pns.png Sep Vanmarcke, pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2021/Micros/pns.png Christoph Taubel, pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2021/Micros/hlf.png Guillaume Van Keirsbulck and pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2021/Micros/hlf.png Salvatore Puccio are well prepared for cobbles and welcome them with delight. Not far behind this group of 5 we find pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2021/Micros/ccc.png Tim Declerq and pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2021/Micros/tlt.png Iliyan Kolev, 2 riders who are not to be neglected and left aside. From a physical point of view though, pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2021/Micros/hlf.png Guillaume Van Keirsbulck, pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2021/Micros/hlf.png Salvator Puccio and pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2021/Micros/pns.png Sep Vanmarcke look well prepared, but let’s not forget pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2021/Micros/lpu.png Patrick Gamper, who comes after a solo victory at Viana do Castelo, a race riddled with cobbles too.


pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2021/Micros/hlf.pngVan KeirsbulckGuillaume727573787068
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2021/Micros/akm.pngJansenAmund Grondahl727572767570
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2021/Micros/hlf.pngKumaraAmith Udaya747470757167
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2021/Micros/min.pngDe WitteMathias747572757169
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2021/Micros/akm.pngPengYuan Tan757473756973

It is said that strength lies in numbers and with such a packed field it is possible this to be an important key to victory. pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2021/Micros/ccc.png Crabbe-CC Chevigny has no less than 6 riders on the long list of favorites and if the strategy is right and there’s no friction between them they may rip great rewards from the race. pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2021/Micros/hlf.png HelloFresh has 4 cyclists on that long list, while pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2021/Micros/min.png Minions (with the last year’s winner, Bert-Jan Lindeman, on the line-up), pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2021/Micros/pns.png Pas Normal Studios – Mikkeller and pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2021/Micros/tlt.png Trans Looney Tunes feature 3. Although, on paper, everything looks set in stone a cycling race is anything but. Cold weather, rain, wind or all three together, a bad day on the bike, failing communication or an unwillingness to collaborate may provide an opportunity for riders who are not similarly supported. pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2021/Micros/akm.png Armund Grondhal Jansen and pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2021/Micros/akm.png Yuan Tan Peng of Aker - MOT, pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2021/Micros/brs.png Tesfom Okbamariam of Bralirwa - Stevens (team that already won a cobble race this season, Omloop Het Nieuwsblad), pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2021/Micros/lpu.png Patrick Gamper of Lierse SK - Pizza Ullo (as already mentioned, winner of the recent Viana do Castelo), pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2021/Micros/pfi.png Tomas Paprstka of Philips – Force India, pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2021/Micros/t3a.png Darren Matthews of Podium Ambition (for which Gerraint Thomas brought so much glory) and pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2021/Micros/ubs.png Martin Schäppi of Team UBS are ready to seize every opportunity to put up a fight for the highest step of the podium.

The past 5 editions of GP Herning ended with a reduced bunch sprint, with as few as 8 riders (2019) or as many as 15 (2017) being together at the finishing line. Tired legs will definitely play their part if the scenario repeats this year and there are some cyclists ready to challenge for the win if push comes to shove and a strong sprint is needed for the win. From our list of favorites pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2021/Micros/pns.png Alexander Kristoff, pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2021/Micros/hlf.png Scott Thwaites or pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2021/Micros/ccc.png Oliver Naesen might profit in this situation, but there are some other cyclists to do the same if they find themselves in the front group with the checkered flag in sight, pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2021/Micros/tlt.png Jens Keukeleire of Trans Looney Tunes, pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2021/Micros/sva.png Thanawut Sanikwathi and pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2021/Micros/sva.png Kristian Sbaragli of Strava or pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2021/Micros/adp.png Alexandr Ovsyannikov of Aramco DP. They’re in with a slim, outside chance, but until the race is run and the outcome known one cannot tell what may happen.

On the other side of the spectrum we have several riders at the starting line who are here for the experience, the anonymous hard work done in the peloton throughout every single race, the unofficial title of The Wheelie King of GP Herning or the undesired “black jersey”.


pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2021/Micros/esc.pngMoreno HernandezSalvador657074506074
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2021/Micros/ubs.pngRamos TiconaBasilio697171505469
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2021/Micros/mck.pngVan WindenDennis716565545667
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2021/Micros/t3a.pngMorales OrtegaJacob656868556368

All the continents are represented in the race, the bulk being made by European cyclists while Oceania has a sole representative, the Australian pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2021/Micros/esc.png Damion Drapac of Eddie Stobart. 1 team and 7 riders are hailing from the race’s home country, while the dominating nation is Belgium, with 17 cyclists at the start. The oldest rider is pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2021/Micros/sva.png Roger Kluge of Strava and the youngest is pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2021/Micros/t3a.png Kemp Orosco of Podium Ambition. And if we come to age range, there are 2 35 years old, 4 34 years old and 9 33 years old cyclists on the start list countered by 29 22 years old, 13 23 years old and 6 24 years old riders.


Ready… Set…

Great preview! Last year´s winner Lindeman won´t be happy receiving bib 73!

Very nice of you to share the ´table of glory´ as well. I guess Moreno Hernandez´ cobble skill is the thing most rotten in Denmark Pfft
Again worse than the control team.
Guess we need to bring in some cobblers for next season Smile

Thank you for the preview!
Gamper was made for these C2 races, but it's going to hard to beat the Crabpack (copyrighted by me 2021)
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
Ad Bot
Posted on 13-08-2022 07:41
Bot Agent

Posts: Countless
Joined: 23.11.09

IP: None  
Great preview, I love this style!
PCM.daily Awards:
Most Improved Member '16 // MG New Manager '16 // Thread of the Year (PCT Roundtable Analysis) '17 '18 '19 '21 // Most Helpful Member '18 '19 '20 // MG Team of the Year (Isostar - Adriatic) '18 '21 // MG Manager of the Year '18 '19 // Member of the Year '19

Radsim'05: Quick-Step (since 2022) Astana (2018-2021)
Most Improved Team 2018 & 2019 // Manager of the Year 2018, 2019, 2020 & 2021 // Team of the Year 2021
Luis Leon Sanchez
Really unsure given the long list of riders how Ovsya hasn't made the favourites list given he's one of the top sprinters who can ride over the cobbles and he's got strong back-up stats. Hopefully he can continue his strong form from Gent-Wevelgem here!
Ollfardh wrote:
Gamper was made for these C2 races, but it's going to hard to beat the Crabpack (copyrighted by me 2021)

Good one! Pfft

I predict the same scenario as in Viana do Castelo. Good depth from my team, but individually there are riders that are better (like Gamper, Vanspeybrouck, Vanmarcke etc.)
ICL - Latvijas Balzams - Olainfarm
MG - Crabbe-CC Chevigny
First of the C2 cobbles visits for us this year. It leaves Matthews quite isolate as really we're just raking in the extra Lvl1 XP & racing our Stagieres for the first time!

That said Darren has the skillset to do well here, not far off Thwaites/Naesen in ability. Hoping he'll stay quiet, ride in the wheels, and only appear with 50m to go Wink

And as said yes it's the first pro-races of our stagieres! Unfortunately they are not really cobbles men. Jacob Kelly is the best here and we'll be watching all 4 closely in the battle for contracts next season.
The C2 cobbles strategy worked out well last year, so obviously have to do it again this year, even a bit of strategic signings with domestiques which are C2 eligible.

As Lindeman is the defending champion I expect nothing less but the win.
Very nice preview, thank you! Kinda excited for Schoonbroodt and Okbamariam to get to lead a race. They've been stellar as domestiques all of last and so far this season, so it's cool to see them get their chance. Having one of them sneak into the Top 10 would be ideal, either that or both in the Top 20-25 would be what I'd expect, but the field is so close that a lot will depend on form and how the AI treats them and others. Either way, looking forward to the report a lot!
We've come to GP Herning every time I remember. It's our home race on our home terrain. Pretty sure MG admins brough it back specifically for my team in the beginning. Pfft

Once Ostergaard won it for us, there was pretty much no way to top that. And with none of my cobblers being C2 eligible this year, it just didn't make sense to mix and match in order to fit this in when Tachira was so much easier. Still disappointing though as its always been a favorite.

Vanspeybrouck is the Carlsberg connection, so he's my top guy. Then Vanmarcke as it would be nice for a Danish team to win.

Amazing preview Darkwolf!
RIP Exxon Duke, David Veilleux, Double Feature, and Monster Energy
Thank you for a great preview!

Great to race here, as we have not visited before. Hopefully we can do our Danish fans justice and do a good race. Must say I like our chances, as all riders should be generally strong in this field (thinking of early breakaways), and then Jansen can do his best versus the big riders. Result wise, we are hoping for a top 10, and it looks doable.
Fingers crossed for some more cobbles scoring after the Gent-Wevelgem upset by Sanikwathi (copy+paste) and Sbaragli Smile

"It’s a little bit scary when Contador attacks." - Tommy V
Ulrich Ulriksen
Good to see we have 3 riders on the important favorites list. Although I think we will need a wolfpack strategy there as none of them are the absolute worst.

Too hard for Rathe I think. Really this is about reuniting for drinks after the race with McCormick favorite Mateo Frankovic.

Thanks for the preview.
Man Game: McCormick Pro Cycling
Hoping for some more Paprstka magic with Bovenhuis in support. Not very sure after Omloop and Viana and the CT cobbles competition is stronger this season too. Hope we get something from this race.

Thanks for the preview Smile
Kelly making a good case for a long-term contract in his first race. Dekker doing what he can to boost his market value, knowing he'll most likely be out-of-contract. And Matthews was visible, rode decently but missed the key moment. But as a first race with a Caribbean leader it wasn't awful, and our jersey still looks so pretty.

I think it's fair to say the PCT has found the soft spot in the C2 regulations, riding very strongly on the cobbles so far!
GVK clearly lacking the level needed this year, depending on what happens with Kump once he starts his program, there's a chance we could end up with a very disapointing season. Overall liked the AI from our team tho, active in the break and active in trying to utilize as many cards as possible, maybe if GVK had a better day we'd have a better result. 3 riders in top 3 isn't a disaster obviously and top 5 for Puccio is still very good.
Four in the top twenty including two in the top ten, perfecto! The fellow PCT teams also performing quite well here. Congratulations Aker, thanks Nemo!
As expected, we had nothing to do in this race. Now we need to get back to training and make the team proud in the upcoming races.
There's the Top 10 I was hoping for, good stuff from Schoonbroodt. Got my hopes up a bit when he was in the group of 6 that got away 12km from the finish, but that didn't last very long. Okbamariam outside of the points is a bit of a shame, looks like that long range attack wasn't the right approach, but why not give it a go.

Solid AI and good results imo, with Jansen making the most of his sprinting and then the two top favorites on the podium as well. Another disappointing performance by Bralirwa veteran Naesen, and the first slightly disappointing race for Crabbe I guess, although with a man in 4th and another three late in the Top 25, that's saying something about their previous races Wink
Jump to Forum:
Similar Threads
Thread Forum Replies Last Post
Information/General Discussion PCM.daily Awards 2021 21 08-08-2022 09:22
PCM.daily Stat Discussion PCM 21: PCM.daily Projects 146 03-08-2022 10:16
PCM.daily Stat Discussion PCM 22: PCM.daily Projects 44 03-08-2022 08:08
2021 Worlds Discussion [Man-Game] Other Races 61 02-08-2022 21:21
PCM 22: General Career Discussion PCM 22: General 6 02-08-2022 05:44


Not a member yet?
Click here to register.

Forgotten your password?
Request a new one here.
Latest content
Tight finish in Roubaix!
Tight finish in Roubaix!
PCM12: General Screenshots
Fantasy Betting
Current bets:
No bets available.
Best gamblers:
bullet fighti... 6,676 PCM$
bullet df_Trek 5,574 PCM$
bullet Marcovdw 3,445 PCM$
bullet SotD 2,880 PCM$
bullet jseadog1 2,852 PCM$

bullet Main Fantasy Betting page
bullet Rankings: Top 100
ManGame Betting
Current bets:
No bets available.
Best gamblers:
bullet Ollfardh 3,700 PCM$
bullet SotD 3,155 PCM$
bullet baseball... 3,036 PCM$
bullet Marcovdw 2,900 PCM$
bullet jseadog1 2,900 PCM$

bullet Main MG Betting page
bullet Get weekly MG PCM$
bullet Rankings: Top 100
Render time: 4.58 seconds