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cunego59
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Welcome to the new thread where you can discuss the stats for the PCM.daily Projects for PCM 21.

Everything commented here will be considered for the next releases of our projects.

Keep in mind that top stats are the most noticeable stats, but those are most often a matter of opinion. I advice people to change some of those stats to their own likings if you don't agree to the stats in our projects.

For us it'd be much more useful to especially discuss stats about smaller riders, those are often easier to miss.

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Yes, we know stat discussions, like politics and religion discussions, often show the worst side of people. Therefore, we've decided to set some simple rules so things won't get out of hand in this thread.

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2. Don't make fun of suggestions of other members. Everyone can post their suggestions. It's up to our statmakers to decide what to do with them.
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If you'd like to take a look at our stats, you can download just the cdb and check them with an editor.
 
drum52
Imho mountain stat is too similar in too many riders, in many stages there is no gap and sometimes (too many) in mountain stages there is a 10/15 peloton sprint
 
Arberg
drum52 wrote:
Imho mountain stat is too similar in too many riders, in many stages there is no gap and sometimes (too many) in mountain stages there is a 10/15 peloton sprint
 
Arberg
MO/HI
Alaphilippe 75/83
Hirschi 74/82
MVDP 70/82
Pogacar 82/81
Roglic 82/81
Fuglsang 77/81
Valverde 77/81
Schachmann 74/81
Ulissi 74/81
Cosnefroy 72/81
Bennett 77/80
Mollema 77/80
Woods 77/80
Formolo 76/80
WVA 75/80
Kwiatkowski 74/79
 
Ollfardh
No no, Cavendish definitely needs 85 SPR after he won 1 stage
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
 
AiZaK
Ollfardh wrote:
No no, Cavendish definitely needs 85 SPR after he won 1 stage


Jajajaja
 
AiZaK
Arberg wrote:
MO/HI
Alaphilippe 75/83
Hirschi 74/82
MVDP 70/82
Pogacar 82/81
Roglic 82/81
Fuglsang 77/81
Valverde 77/81
Schachmann 74/81
Ulissi 74/81
Cosnefroy 72/81
Bennett 77/80
Mollema 77/80
Woods 77/80
Formolo 76/80
WVA 75/80
Kwiatkowski 74/79


I agree with 99%

I only would change Valverde 78 in Mountain
 
Arberg
Ollfardh wrote:
No no, Cavendish definitely needs 85 SPR after he won 31 stages
True Grin
 
Arberg
Pogacar 81 TT and Roglic 77 TT.
 
cunego59
Please try to keep your recency bias in check just a little bit Wink Pogacar finished 3rd in the NC ITT just two weeks ago, getting beaten by Tratnik and Polanc, and the only TT outside of NCs he's ever won was last year at the Tour. Not to mention that Roglic is still dealing with the consequences of his crash.
 
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Arberg
Just see TDF. Pogacar by far the best last year and again this year.
 
Tafiolmo
Arberg- You shouldn't get carried away with what happens in the first few days of a GT. Without doubt both Bennett and Ewan are the best sprinters in the world at the moment and both in their prime while some others just behind them have not been perfoming that well recently. Cavendish is in the twilight of his career but has defied the odds in coming back to great form and will get an increase in his sprint and acc to certainly make him the second best sprinter in his team BUT we're certainly not making him anywhere near the best sprinter in the DB. Let's be honest the remaining sprint line-up in the Tour is very weak and not worthy of a Tour de France, Cavendish beating second tier sprinters such as Philpsen and Bouhanni yesterday really says it all.

No way is Pogacar an 81 TT while Roglic is just a 77 TT. The big GT riders can always TT well anyway in-game if their TT stats are half decent anyway and I would expect GT riders like Roglic, Pogacar and Almeida for example to TT really well and beat/challenge the specialists if their form was super good anyway.

As for hills and even mtns VDP is always going to be debatable anyway and we really still need more time to see how good he really is and hopefully if he remains in yellow we will find out more
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Arberg
SP/ACC
Cavendish 83/81
Ewan 82/82
Bennett 82/81
Merlier 81/81
Groenewegen 81/80
Ackermann 81/80
Demare 81/79
Gaviria 80/80
Nizzolo 80/79
Kristoff 80/78
WVA 80/77
Sagan 79/80
Viviani 79/79
Jakobsen 79/79
Philipsen 79/78
Bouhanni 79/78
Bol 79/77
Pedersen 79/77
MVDP 78/83
Coquard 78/79
Matthews 78/78
Greipel 78/77

Cavendish is back in great shape and he is simply the fastest sprinter in history with 32 stage victories in the tour.
Edited by Arberg on 03-07-2021 14:14
 
Ollfardh
Question for the admins, it is possible to ban someone from certain threads?
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
 
Arberg
TT/PL
Ganna 83/83
Dennis 81/82
Kung 81/81
Evenepoel 80/80
Pogacar 80/79
Van Aert 79/80
Cavagna 79/78
Asgreen 79/77
Campanaerts 78/80
Affini 78/89
Bevin 78/79
Dowsett 78/78
Roglic 77/77
Dumoulin 77/76
Vingegaard 76/75
Porte 76/75
Uran 76/75
MVDP 75/76
Thomas 75/75
Edited by Arberg on 03-07-2021 14:44
 
Arberg
Arberg wrote:
Just see TDF. Pogacar by far the best last year and again this year.
The new Armstrong is of course supremely by far the best.
 
King_Ric
Pogacar 86 MO :lol:
But seriously what will we do with that guy?

Also Lutsenko and VDP (until he started soft pedalling) did quite. Maybe a small upgrade for both?
 
Arberg
86 is too much as you can not take doping in the game Wink
 
Tafiolmo
Well Pogacar is clearly something very special and we need to think how to stat him. We've never ever gone above the 83 mtn stat but Pogacar is probably better than this, so opinions on Pogacar?

The rider that has impressed me so much this season is Cattaneo and has almost gone unnoticed. Has had great TT results this season and now has climbing results as well.
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Ollfardh
In the past I did give 84 to exceptionals like Tony Martin TT or Fabian Stamina, nothing of that in the recent years though. Pogacar definitely seems to be something else this year, but I would also argue that his competitors are mostly injured and thus it's hard to compare him to Roglic, Porte or Thomas. Carapaz didn't crash I think but he did a very stupid attack on friday. The others in the top 5, with all due respect for O'Connor, Uran and Vingegaard, are just on a lower level altogether.
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
 
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