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Tour de Vineyards


Welcome to the 3rd edition of the Tour de Vineyards. The race was brought back on the MG calendar last year and we have it back again. It changes it's race category from C2HC to C2, so it is still primarily a CT race. The 7 day event remains the same except for the final stage. The 40 km ITT has been changed to a 20 km TTT, so those with lesser quality against the clock will be able to rely on their teammates. There are also 3 sprint stages on offer so some of the better sprinters are present, along with the time-trial specialists. They will look for glory on stage 1 and then support their leaders on the final day.

With that said let's look at some of the favourites:


pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/afr.png Pinot807479696571,32
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/car.png Chamorro787576746470,83
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/spr.png Frankiny787675756765,32
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/spr.png Ranaweera807375657365,32
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/phi.png Keinath787575697466,35
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/trg.png Cort Nielsen787475717266,42
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/lph.png Marquez797077796963,27
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/cdb.png Warbasse787573657468,22
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/car.png Novak777373657670,83
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/trg.png Lunke787274647666,42
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/duo.png Hiratsuka777474606367,81
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/ssr.png Battaglin777272705861,34
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/nel.png Moschella796970626961,59

pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/afr.png Pinot is the premium climber here and he also has the best TTT support. He is favourite #1. pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/car.png Chamorro is next in line, in part due to Carrefour's reliable time-trial performances this year. His season has been up and down though so far. It was hard to separate pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/spr.png Frankiny and pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/spr.png Ranaweera, let's see how their tag team works this time. pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/phi.png Keinath has been rock solid for Philips, no reason why he can't be again with his all round stats. pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/trg.png Cort Nielsen is coming off an impressive victory in Chile, can he repeat that performance?

pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/lph.png Marquez has been struggling lately, but this race should suit him much better. pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/cdb.png Warbasse is another rider who just gets the job done and with some good TTT support, he could exceed expectations yet again. pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/car.png Novak is a very good time-trialist so stage 1 will be very important for him. pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/trg.png Lunke gives Tryg a 2nd option, he is also good on the shorter TTs and could be a good foil for Cort Nielsen. pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/duo.png Hiratsuka doesn't get many chances to lead in PCT, but he has a nice chance to do something here. Duolingo didn't bring their entire famous TTT unit, but it's still pretty good.


pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/nel.png Carsi705569738082
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/gsc.png Coutinho726574777980
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/cdb.png Kragh Andersen776474788177
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/tst.png Salleh705965778080
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/trg.png Krieger716274757979
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/phi.png Van der Sanden736569777879
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/sva.png Bouhanni746369748077
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/car.png Lavoine736064778078
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/lph.png Manarelli725965737979
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/ssr.png Pelucchi746870757977
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/duo.png Sobota726065767878

As we said, the sprinting talent here is rich. pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/nel.png Carsi has shown his speed on numerous occasions and he is the fastest on the startlist again. pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/gsc.png Coutinho brings a strong leadout like always, but will it work? pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/cdb.png Kragh Andersen has been a mystery this year, but when he is on it, he is very fast. pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/tst.png Salleh also had leadout troubles in his last race, have those issues been fixed? pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/trg.png Krieger is as steady as they come, but he'd love to score a stage win this time.

pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/phi.png Van der Sanden. Well let's just see if he decides to sprint. pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/sva.png Bouhanni has been doing better recently and is in decent form. The same can be said for pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/car.png Lavoine and of course pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/ssr.png Pelucchi. Coming off his USPCC victory. pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/lph.png Manarelli will try to recapture that early season form, while pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/duo.png Sobota gives Duolingo an option in the sprints as well.


pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/gla.png Haas717676726873
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/spr.png Frankiny697672756175
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/gsc.png Le Gac707773746469
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/car.png Jang677672706674
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/car.png Chamorro667572766674
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/phi.png Keinath737576756169
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/bnz.png Schultz687674805871
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/lph.png Bru677769656672
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/cdb.png Warbasse707575736065
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/gsc.png Wahyudi657667695867

As expected the puncheur list here really isn't terribly impressive with some GC riders thrown in. There is one hilly rated stage on day 6, but it looks far from being selective. It may come down to a bunch sprint or perhaps more likely we see a breakaway allowed to have their fun. Anyhow these are some of the names that could feature on that day.

Stage 1 TT

pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/afr.png Hamza76736879
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/phi.png Dumoulin78766778
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/lph.png Sterbini78736778
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/car.png Li78687578
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/car.png Ghyselinck77776877
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/duo.png Cornu77706777
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/gla.png Downey77747277
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/gsc.png Oram77727077
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/gla.png Sebright77705177
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/afr.png Kiflay76706977

The opening time-trial favours those that like shorter distance, but you still need to be a proper time-trialist to compete. So pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/afr.png Hamza comes in #1 here. His manager hasn't been too fond of him lately, can he finally atone himself? pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/phi.png Dumoulin is slowly finding his feet and should definitely be amongst the favourites. pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/lph.png Sterbini is also in the managers dog house and needs a good result. The same can be said for pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/car.png Li, but pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/car.png Ghyselinck on the other hand has been very good. pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/duo.png Cornu is a bit of a legend now, but he is still capable. Perhaps his last chance at a stage victory?

Stage 7 TTT

pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/afr.png Project: Africa71,1371,6371,32
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/car.png Carrefour - ESPN70,8870,7570,83
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/cdb.png Carlsberg - Danske Bank67,8868,7568,22
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/duo.png Duolingo68,2567,1367,81
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/gla.png Glanbia Foods Cycling Project67,6368,0067,77
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/tst.png Trans Cycling Team66,3869,7567,70
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/mck.png McCormick Pro Cycling66,2566,8866,50
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/trg.png Tryg - Ritter Sport65,8867,2566,42
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/phi.png Philips66,2566,5066,35
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/esc.png Eddie Stobart65,7565,3865,60
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/spr.png Sauber Petronas Racing64,8866,0065,32
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/lph.png Los Pollos Hermanos63,1363,5063,27
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/bnz.png BNZ Cycling Team61,6365,7563,25
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/pol.png Polar**61,6561,9561,77
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/nel.png Nordica - Enel**61,3561,9561,59
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/ssr.png Sotto il sole di riccione*61,3461,3461,34
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/gsc.png Guave's Sunlight Cycling60,2562,2561,04
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/sva.png Strava*60,3961,3460,77

* - only 7 riders 5% avg deduction
** - only 6 riders 10% avg deduction

pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/afr.png Project: Africa are top dogs here as expected. pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/car.png Carrefour are a worthy rival though and pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/cdb.png Carlsberg will try their best to get amongst them. pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/duo.png Duolingo, pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/gla.png Glanbia and pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/tst.png Trans seem long shots to win this, but let's give them a mention. For the rest, it will be simply trying to limit the losses for their GC men.

Full startlist:

SchultzNicholasBNZ Cycling Team
Von HoffSteeleBNZ Cycling Team
KelemenPavelBNZ Cycling Team
BaterdeneNarankhuuBNZ Cycling Team
MudgwayLukeBNZ Cycling Team
ErdenesurenMunkhtulgaBNZ Cycling Team
GoughReganBNZ Cycling Team
MarryattJakeBNZ Cycling Team
Kragh AndersenAsbjornCarlsberg - Danske Bank
WarbasseLawrenceCarlsberg - Danske bank
BertilssonChristianCarlsberg - Danske Bank
EgNiklasCarlsberg - Danske Bank
OlesenPatrickCarlsberg - Danske Bank
QuaadeRasmusCarlsberg - Danske Bank
ResellErik NordsaeterCarlsberg - Danske Bank
HuysLaurensCarlsberg - Danske Bank
JangGyung GuCarrefour - ESPN
NovakJakubCarrefour - ESPN
LavoineAnthonyCarrefour - ESPN
ChamorroJuan ErnestoCarrefour - ESPN
LiWen HaoCarrefour - ESPN
GhyselinckJanCarrefour - ESPN
RowsellErickCarrefour - ESPN
YoungDarrenCarrefour - ESPN
BogdanovicsMarisEddie Stobart
BergerHakon FrengstadEddie Stobart
AnderssonEmilEddie Stobart
Moreno HernandezSalvadorEddie Stobart
MalacarneDavideEddie Stobart
JoeaarGertEddie Stobart
LewisShaunEddie Stobart
Van der PloegNeilEddie Stobart
CraddockLawsonGlanbia Foods Cycling Project
HaasNathanGlanbia Foods Cycling Project
DowneySeanGlanbia Foods Cycling Project
McConveyConnorGlanbia Foods Cycling Project
SebrightAggreyGlanbia Foods Cycling Project
HahessySeanGlanbia Foods Cycling Project
CotePier-AndreGlanbia Foods Cycling Project
DowneyMarkGlanbia Foods Cycling Project
CoutinhoLionelGuave's Sunlight Cycling
BarbierRudyGuave's Sunlight Cycling
Le GacOlivierGuave's Sunlight Cycling
FeiereisenKevinGuave's Sunlight Cycling
YamamotoGenkiGuave's Sunlight Cycling
WahyudiNandra EkoGuave's Sunlight Cycling
OramJamesGuave's Sunlight Cycling
MarchioriLeonardoGuave's Sunlight Cycling
MarquezFlorentinoLos Pollos Hermanos
ManarelliCarlos AlexandreLos Pollos Hermanos
SterbiniLucaLos Pollos Hermanos
BruFulgencioLos Pollos Hermanos
QuicibalRomeoLos Pollos Hermanos
UlloaJose GerardoLos Pollos Hermanos
NovakowskyiVitaliiLos Pollos Hermanos
GonzalesAndre AlexanderLos Pollos Hermanos
GraniganNoahMcCormick Pro Cycling
McNultyBrandonMcCormick Pro Cycling
EisenhartTaylorMcCormick Pro Cycling
GunnlaugssonKristoferMcCormick Pro Cycling
BrownConnor WMcCormick Pro Cycling
MostovZekeMcCormick Pro Cycling
WirtgenLucMcCormick Pro Cycling
CurranGeoffreyMcCormick Pro Cycling
CarsiMustafaNordica - Enel
MoschellaArtemioNordica - Enel
MartinelliDavideNordica - Enel
KrasnoperovMikayilNordica - Enel
SortveitSondreNordica - Enel
RumsasRaimondasNordica - Enel
Van der SandenGeertPhilips
Gallego MartinJuan AbenhamarPolar
LaukKarl PatrickPolar
PinotThibautProject: Africa
Van HeerdenJuanProject: Africa
ReguiguiYoucefProject: Africa
KiflayMetkelProject: Africa
RussomMeronProject: Africa
LaizerRichard LaningoProject: Africa
HamzaFaycalProject: Africa
MuntonByronProject: Africa
FrankinyKilianSauber Petronas Racing
RanaweeraSurangaSauber Petronas Racing
SilvaBrunoSauber Petronas Racing
ChhetriAjay PanditSauber Petronas Racing
JiangZhihuiSauber Petronas Racing
BerardJulienSauber Petronas Racing
MisbahMushinSauber Petronas Racing
HibatullahJamalSauber Petronas Racing
PelucchiMatteoSotto il sole di riccione
BattaglinEnricoSotto il sole di riccione
CanolaMarcoSotto il sole di riccione
MaccagliAndrea EnricoSotto il sole di Riccione
LonardiGiovanniSotto il sole di Riccione
LuccaRiccardoSotto il sole di riccione
MonacoAlessandroSotto il sole di riccione
SallehMohamed HarrifTrans cycling team
MezgecLukaTrans cycling team
IgnatievMikhailTrans cycling team
PogacarTadejTrans cycling team
SteensenAndreTrans cycling team
CamargoJonathanTrans cycling team
GanjkhanlouMohammadTrans cycling team
BurgerSvenTrans cycling team
Cort NielsenMagnusTryg - Ritter Sport
LunkeSindre SkjostadTryg - Ritter Sport
KriegerAlexanderTryg - Ritter Sport
HoemBjorn ToreTryg - Ritter Sport
NommelaAkselTryg - Ritter Sport
NorsgaardMathiasTryg - Ritter Sport
RodenbergFrederikTryg - Ritter Sport
KlarisMagnus BakTryg - Ritter Sport
Wow, great preview with a lot of nice tables! Both Marquez and Sterbini haven't really performed superbly in there latest outings indeed, I hope they can both redeem themself a little bit here. Sterbini hopefully with a top-3 in the opening time trial, and the Spaniard with a top-5 in the GC.

I have to admit, however, that a top-5 might be tough, looking at his results so far and taking into account we will lose time in the TTT. Top-10 should be more realistic, even though it could just as well be worse again.

Manarelli our man for the sprints, and he hasn't disappointed so far in the few chances he got. He has several chances to score, one stage podium should be a realistic goal as well, he's probably our biggest chance of actually winning a stage.

If one of those flat stages (also counting the hilly one) goes to the breakaway, it would actually be nice to have Quicibal in the break. A strong rouleur, who might be able to finish it à la Katrasnik. Maybe we won't go in the break however, if the game considers Manarelli to be one of the biggest favourites. Bru or Ulloa could also go in the break and score like they did recently, but I still think Quicibal is our biggest shot at breakaway success. First race for stagiaire Novakowskyi, but just as for Gonzales he shouldn't really do anything crazy.

Best of luck to everyone Smile
Great preview! Rooting for Pinot, Cort and our former loanee Frankiny here Smile
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Hoping for a successful race from our former riders Keinath and Van Der Sanden/Krieger. All should be capable to win a stage or high results here.

Nice and detailed preview.
Decided to sit this one out since both Ndayisenga and the team as a whole are too bad in time trials to justify 7 race days. But looking at what some of the teams brought, we might not have been that far down the list in the TT Pfft Still, I don't mind watching from the sidelines. Pinot should have this, but maybe Ranaweera has a chance if Sauber can muster a decent TTT. Great preview, looking forward to the reports Smile
Awesome preview redordead! You've been absolutely killing it recently, and it's much appreciated! Smile

Honestly shocked that despite not sending our full TTT squad here, we're still 3rd in average. Seems like in general the amount of flat stages compromised people's ability to wholly go for GC and stack time trialists. It also helps that both Warbasse and Eg are their own advocates against the clock. Still, we've kind of underwhelmed in TTT's this year, and I don't expect that to change.

Larry and Niklas will be without Fabbro in the mountains, which judging by our recent results should not be an issue, especially considering there's only one mountain stage, and it's a standard _____/ affair. The game seems to have them work well together when it's just the two of them. Doubt the hilly stage will amount to much, but it'd be nice if it did.

Not much to say regarding AKA at this point. He'll either sprint or he won't. Can't count on it, so just expect nothing and take any points as a bonus.
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Thanks for report. You're very generous to mention Haas but here's hoping.

If Craddock can limit losses on the mountain maybe he can sneak a top 10.

Otherwise we'll be hoping for a break away unless Downey can bring home the TT, he's due one. Not sure why our TTT here is weaker but overall it shouldn't harm Craddock.
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The weakest line-up I┬┤ve ever sent to race for sure. Everything above 0 points will be considered as success. At least I hope for a lot of TV time Pfft
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Too many TT KMs and not enough mountains so decided to have Kuss pass on this one. Keough might have had a shot in the opening TT so maybe he should have been here, one for next year.

As it is the McCormick young guns will be looking for the breaks. Maybe McNulty can put together a decent performance in the U25 as the TTT team isn't terrible considering the competition.
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roturn wrote:
Hoping for a successful race from our former riders Keinath and Van Der Sanden/Krieger. All should be capable to win a stage or high results here.

Keianth yes, but you have more hopes on VdS than I have left! You missed Dumoulin by the way Wink

Will be all hands for Keianth mostly after the Prologue is out of the way. Not much expectation from Van der Sanden anymore. Let's see if Keianth can live up to his billing.

Thanks for the preview redordead Smile
Totally missed him yes.

Let's hope he can grab that stage win finally after couple decent results including 2nd and 3rd iirc.
Great write up! Probably our last real chance to win a race this season. I'd hoped the field would be a bit weaker and the opening prologue might prove to be a bit of a challenge for Pinot. Suspect tohgb competition from Warbasse, Ranaweera, and all the usual suspects. Hope he can make it up on the mountain stage. A lot of flat days which is why I brought JvH :lol: Ah, foolish me.

Given it's our last major scoring chance, expectations are high:
- Win overall
- Win opening prologue (looking at you Hamza)
- Win TTT
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Hofer scored 403 points in this race last year. Yet noone picked up for a massive bag. His spirit will be haunting those who passed on the greatest rider in Vineyards history
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quadsas wrote:
Hofer scored 403 points in this race last year. Yet noone picked up for a massive bag. His spirit will be haunting those who passed on the greatest rider in Vineyards history

That would be a weird amount of points from his 151 points in total last year. Wink
roturn wrote:
Totally missed him yes.

Let's hope he can grab that stage win finally after couple decent results including 2nd and 3rd iirc.

Well, couldn't be any closer. Nice to see him perform even though still missing that big win.

He won the Dutch ITT NC once iirc, which might be his only MG win though.
Pretty solid effort from Larry to gain time on others, and very good ride by Niklas. Quaade continues to underwhelm.

Congrats to Glanbia!
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redordead wrote:
Well that's it all the big names have done their ride. No surprises popped up in the end. pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/phi.png Tom Dumoulin is the stage winner.

Wait... no! The judges have changed their mind?! We now have official word and pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2020/Micros/gla.png Sean Downey is the stage winner.

This is so annoying, happens to me all the time, too Grin I really don't get why they can't get the results and the display during the stage properly synced.

Congrats to Glanbia, solid win!
Sterbini being Sterbini I guess Pfft

Marquez didn┬┤t do too bad compared to other GC riders, which is hopefully a good sign. Time for Manarelli to step up tomorrow!

Congratz to Macc and thanks for the report, red Smile
Thanks for report and the congrats. I did say he was due ! Hope he can hold it for a day at least

Craddock's result is encouraging too.
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Nice ride by Mostov to lead young rider. Tough on Dumoulin to be called back from the podium but Glanbia due for some TT luck I think.

Congrats to Downey.
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