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[2020] Rider Renewals
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| roturn |
Posted on 08-09-2020 08:45
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baseballlover312 wrote:
Just a DB note: a bunch of the 33+ riders who were FA's last season have not been decreased. I know personally I see it in my former riders, such as Razzie, Breschel, Aistrup and CAS.
I reckon this is probably fine as they wouldn't get a contract this year if they didn't last year anyway, but just something to make note of.
Just checked and had 2 riders being wrong. But Breschel etc. aren`t those imo.
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 08-09-2020 13:18
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roturn wrote:
baseballlover312 wrote:
Just a DB note: a bunch of the 33+ riders who were FA's last season have not been decreased. I know personally I see it in my former riders, such as Razzie, Breschel, Aistrup and CAS.
I reckon this is probably fine as they wouldn't get a contract this year if they didn't last year anyway, but just something to make note of.
Just checked and had 2 riders being wrong. But Breschel etc. aren`t those imo.
At least not in my file any longer.
I'm still using the first file that was uploaded, so it might have been changed since then, or my math is off. I knew Aistrup was always 73/77 and he's still that in my DB at 33, so that was what made me look at others.
In any case, thanks for looking into it. Wouldn't have an impact regardless I reckon.
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| redordead |
Posted on 09-09-2020 11:05
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Another DB note: the following riders still need to have special characters removed from their first or last names. I feel this is something that should be done before transfers.
Spoiler Pokälä Samuel
Hümbert Michael
Räim Mihkel
Ünalan Recep
Vainionpää Oskari
Flückiger Mathias
Schönberger Sebastian
Betancourt Agüero Paul
Schäppi Martin
Kämna Lennard
Pietikäinen Sauli
Karagobek Muhammet Eyüp
Brändle Matthias
Jäger Patrick
Hähnel Frederik
Mäoma Silver
Taaramäe Rein
Stöhr Jan
Müller Patrick
Schär Michael
Renäng Viktor
Brüngger Nico
Stöhr Pavel
Hänninen Aleksi
Mäder Gino
Sütterlin Jasha
Würtz Mads
Hänninen Jaako
Schädlich Lucas
Selig Rüdiger
Flügel Aleksandar
Stüssi Colin
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| cio93 |
Posted on 09-09-2020 12:31
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I still don't understand the need to remove umlauts from the DB, they can easily be copy&pasted during transfers if need be and as a native German speaker, they make a big subjective difference. Not our fault that Brits and Americans can't pronounce them.
Flügel is an actual word, Flugel is nonsense. Nordic languages without ä are boring.
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| Fabianski |
Posted on 09-09-2020 12:37
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I second cio's opinion on this. Unless there are problems with PCM due to special characters, I'd prefer not to remove them. I don't bother copying characters I can't easily type on my (Swiss) keyboard, but I can somewhat understand it's annoying for reporters if they have to type the same name over and over again. My personal solution to this is to type it "wrong" (i.e. without any special chars) and then do a global replace with the right version.
Anyway, I'll continue writing about Mäder, Guillén and Cissé, even if they're spelled differently in the DB.
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| quadsas |
Posted on 09-09-2020 12:37
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cio93 wrote:
I still don't understand the need to remove umlauts from the DB, they can easily be copy&pasted during transfers if need be and as a native German speaker, they make a big subjective difference. Not our fault that Brits and Americans can't pronounce them.
Flügel is an actual word, Flugel is nonsense. Nordic languages without ä are boring.
Well if you get to keep umlauts I want my č ė š ū and ž in there aswell
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| SotD |
Posted on 09-09-2020 12:40
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I could say the same about Æ Ø and Å in the Danish language, but as the game is played in English it would hardly make sense.
I would write the name correctly in the HQ, but can easily live with the fact that Sørensen is Sorensen in the DB.
Østergaard partially means East, while Asbjørn partially means bear. Grøn means green and so on.
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| redordead |
Posted on 09-09-2020 12:43
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cio93 wrote:
I still don't understand the need to remove umlauts from the DB, they can easily be copy&pasted during transfers if need be and as a native German speaker, they make a big subjective difference. Not our fault that Brits and Americans can't pronounce them.
Flügel is an actual word, Flugel is nonsense. Nordic languages without ä are boring.
If that's the case, then also bring back all the other characters that are missing.
Slavic languages are boring without the: Č, Ć, Š, Đ, Ž, Ď, É, Ě, Í, Ň, Ó, Ř, Š, Ť, Ú, Ů, Ý etc.
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| Marcovdw |
Posted on 09-09-2020 12:43
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Quoting previous year's thread for the exact reason special characters were removed:
- Rider and team names lost any special letters, which could lead to different excel versions to struggle with such as "Ø" or "è" or "í" etc. As this was rather annoying coming to race results and rankings, those are gone in the following season.
So ranking files were incorrect with teams/riders having different spellings depending on the reporter
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| quadsas |
Posted on 09-09-2020 12:46
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Marcovdw wrote:
Quoting previous year's thread for the exact reason special characters were removed:
- Rider and team names lost any special letters, which could lead to different excel versions to struggle with such as "Ø" or "è" or "í" etc. As this was rather annoying coming to race results and rankings, those are gone in the following season.
So ranking files were incorrect with teams/riders having different spellings depending on the reporter
This shouldnt even be a discussion, of course remove all the special characters, its ridiculous that some people actually have a problem with that. You know how its pronounced, reporters and managers in general shouldnt have to google every other name to type it out correctly
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| roturn |
Posted on 09-09-2020 13:57
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Normally I would agree. But there were often issues with any kind of special letters with different reporters using different excel versions or free open source excel software and suddenly the symbols automatically were deleted or changed.
As some formulas use the names as vlookup, this leads to problems with the rider name not being identified until manually changed.
So I decided, it would simply be easier to avoid any issues by deleting special letters from any rider/team name.
That said, ü,ö,ä are special letters that I think use to work the best still and not sure those three made issues at all, which is why they are probably still in. Most of the others, in especially the Scandinavian symbols or those used a lot in Eastern Europe do lead to lots of struggle. |
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| Eden95 |
Posted on 10-09-2020 12:56
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Pretty sure I already have my file, have been flat out but will have a bit of time to get through everything this weekend
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 10-09-2020 18:40
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Air France is ready to go. |
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| roturn |
Posted on 17-09-2020 14:33
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Deadline for renewals: Wednesday 23/09/2020
With goals online, all can now do the renewals. And it's important to speed things up now. |
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| cio93 |
Posted on 17-09-2020 16:28
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Will we get the remaining race profiles before that deadline?
Crucially, some of those missing are rather relevant to me.
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 17-09-2020 16:36
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I can start as soon as I get my budget. Goals are done.
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| roturn |
Posted on 17-09-2020 22:40
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cio93 wrote:
Will we get the remaining race profiles before that deadline?
Crucially, some of those missing are rather relevant to me.
All profiles not posted yet are likely to be similar to every season.
Will try to get them done asap obviously though. |
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| redordead |
Posted on 18-09-2020 06:02
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roturn wrote:
cio93 wrote:
Will we get the remaining race profiles before that deadline?
Crucially, some of those missing are rather relevant to me.
All profiles not posted yet are likely to be similar to every season.
Will try to get them done asap obviously though.
Profiles are important in my opinion.
For example it says Volta a Portugal is going to be basically the same as last year, but it's changing from 11 stages to 9 stages. That to me is a significant change and without seeing said change, I would find it hard to glean any information from it.
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| Croatia14 |
Posted on 18-09-2020 07:41
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Yes, profiles are important, But there is no way they should affect renewals tbh. It's a stretch to say goals need to be done for renewals, I can understand that for relegating teams, but waiting for profiles just to wait for goals just to wait with renewals is not understandable to me, especially since this still is a game and nothing where you earn your money with where you have to be 110% spot on.
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| Fabianski |
Posted on 18-09-2020 07:50
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Well, I won't fix my goals until I get the profiles, either... I'm done with renewals, though, so that shouldn't be much of an issue  .
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