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Vuelta a España 2019
Kirchen_75
Miguel98 wrote:
Kirchen_75 wrote:
Aruismo never dies


I've just entered the bandwagon for Aru to win Pfft

Embarassing by Astana today. Where were they?


If it wasnt for that TTT crash wed be in the buisness but Im still confident he will grow in shape and ultrapeak in the 3rd week
 
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Agent David
Poels and Hart 10 minutes down. GC ends for them I think.
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Shonak
Havnt seen the stage but well done by Nairoman and looks like Vuelta is off to a great start, kicking out that disappointing finale of TDF in an instant.
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Miguel98 wrote:
Kirchen_75 wrote:
Aruismo never dies


I've just entered the bandwagon for Aru to win Pfft

Embarassing by Astana today. Where were they?

Yeah they really left Clark Kent all alone
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Shonak
Just normal first week Superman things, he always finds ways to screw himself over
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df_Trek
They worked all day to control the break and were empty in the finale of the stage
 
Guido Mukk
deek12345 wrote:
Classic vuelta love it .


Indeed first hill and here we go. Like Giro.
Tour just sucks
 
ringo182
Astana got their tactics all wrong. Absolutely no need to control the break all day yesterday. Let the sprint teams do it. Instead they destroyed the sprinters and so took away the teams who might have helped them control the race and basically took all their rivals to the bottom of the key climb without having to do any work at all.

Why would you want to defend the red jersey on stage 2 if your going for the overall won? Let the break go away and let some random from a minor Spanish team have it for a few days.
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Guido Mukk
ringo182 wrote:
Astana got their tactics all wrong. Absolutely no need to control the break all day yesterday. Let the sprint teams do it. Instead they destroyed the sprinters and so took away the teams who might have helped them control the race and basically took all their rivals to the bottom of the key climb without having to do any work at all.

Why would you want to defend the red jersey on stage 2 if your going for the overall won? Let the break go away and let some random from a minor Spanish team have it for a few days.


How sprinters would have survived that final steep climb?
 
ringo182
Guido Mukk wrote:
ringo182 wrote:
Astana got their tactics all wrong. Absolutely no need to control the break all day yesterday. Let the sprint teams do it. Instead they destroyed the sprinters and so took away the teams who might have helped them control the race and basically took all their rivals to the bottom of the key climb without having to do any work at all.

Why would you want to defend the red jersey on stage 2 if your going for the overall won? Let the break go away and let some random from a minor Spanish team have it for a few days.


How sprinters would have survived that final steep climb?


It was only 3km. If Astana hadn't turned it into a GC race by killing all the sprinters early on, the break might still have been away at the decisive climb and it would have been climbed at a steadier pace. As it was they chased them down too fast when there was no need at all for them to chase. Astana did themselves yesterday.
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Forever the Best
But I was told that hilly stages that don't have an uphill finish don't deliver...

Great win by Quintana.
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Gracias Alberto.
 
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ringo182 wrote:
Guido Mukk wrote:
ringo182 wrote:
Astana got their tactics all wrong. Absolutely no need to control the break all day yesterday. Let the sprint teams do it. Instead they destroyed the sprinters and so took away the teams who might have helped them control the race and basically took all their rivals to the bottom of the key climb without having to do any work at all.

Why would you want to defend the red jersey on stage 2 if your going for the overall won? Let the break go away and let some random from a minor Spanish team have it for a few days.


How sprinters would have survived that final steep climb?


It was only 3km. If Astana hadn't turned it into a GC race by killing all the sprinters early on, the break might still have been away at the decisive climb and it would have been climbed at a steadier pace. As it was they chased them down too fast when there was no need at all for them to chase. Astana did themselves yesterday.


That was NEVER going to be for the sprinters. It's a 3Km climb with 20% ramps, everyone entering the climb already in a brutal pace. There was no climbing at a steadier pace in a climb like that.
 
ringo182
Yes, buy if the sprinters were at the bottom they may well have got dropped, but there was Enough time to chase back on. Also, they raced so hard that they split the peloton up before they even got to the climb? Why? Why not let the break go away and let other teams chase it down, teams who aren't trying to win overal.
"Ringo is exactly right", Shonak - 8 September 2016
 
Malkael
Purely unstoppable in the sprint today, Sam Bennet with the stage victory.
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ringo182 wrote:
Yes, buy if the sprinters were at the bottom they may well have got dropped, but there was Enough time to chase back on. Also, they raced so hard that they split the peloton up before they even got to the climb? Why? Why not let the break go away and let other teams chase it down, teams who aren't trying to win overal.


They raced hard to enter the climb well positioned, not to get caught out. Steep climb 101. I get where you're coming from but I think in any scenario it would be too hard for the sprinters, Aranburu resisted, maybe Mezgec or some other one could've but still unlikely.
 
MrUfo87
Jumbo-Visma's crash in the time trial was such a pity. Fun fact: It's the only grand tour this year they failed to take the stage win + leader jersey on the first stage (Roglic did so at the Giro, Teunissen at the Tour).

Yesterday was great. It looks like Team Ineos isn't that strong.

And I'm curious how strong Sam Bennett is compared to the sprinters who participated in the Tour. He beat Groenwegen three times in the BinckBank Tour, but Groenewegen was already quite tired there. Curious to see how good Bennett actually is.
 
Shonak
Bennett now stage winner of all three GTs, crazy good in for. right now
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VoetsT
Shonak wrote:
Bennett now stage winner of all three GTs, crazy good in for. right now


Did he won a stage in the tour???
Winners never quit, quitters never win.
 
Omloop
VoetsT wrote:
Shonak wrote:
Bennett now stage winner of all three GTs, crazy good in for. right now


Did he won a stage in the tour???


Nope, best stage result in the tour is 9th.
 
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