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knockout
Nice, 12 players is a good number to work with. Will write the setup down and tomorrow evening will be start of day one.


Thanks for your answers to the questions. Helps a lot Smile

A Big Thank You To All MG And ICL Reporters!
And To All Who Organize Something On Daily As Well!


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knockout
(A late sign-up is still possible. Another townie would be added. Game will start tomorrow evening)

I recommend to read the full post as some things might have changed slightly from previous games.

I'd prefer if there would be no extended strategy discussion before the start of the game based on the role setup.


The Big Setup Post


Roles:


Mafia:
1x Godfather
1x One-Shot Strongman
1x Framer

Town:
1x Detective
1x Doctor
1x Tracker
1x Politician
5x Townie

Also: Two players will be randomly picked (regardless of their role/allignment) to be neighbours. They won't know their neighbours' allignment but will be able to talk with each other in a private chat. If targetted by a tracker they will not be seen visiting each other.

Role Descriptions:
(some roles have been updated/modified from previous editions)


Godfather - You are the godfather, and the first time you are checked by the detective, your alignment appears to be good. However, if you are checked a second time, your true alignment is revealed. You attend the mafia meetings. You win when the number of mafia players match the amount of Pro-Town players.

One-Shot Strongman – You are a strongman, and you can once activate your strongman ability during performing the factorial kill which will bypass protection from a doctor. You attend the mafia meetings. You win the game with the mafia, when the amount of mafias are equal to the amount of townies.

Framer - You are a framer, and you may chose to frame one player during the night, causing the target to investigate as Guilty to a detective. The effect only lasts for the current night. You attend the mafia meetings. You win when the number of mafia players match the amount of Pro-Town players.


Detective - You are detective, and are able to check one participant’s alignment (anti- or pro-town) every night. You win the game with the town, when all the members of the mafia has been lynched or killed.

Doctor - You are a doctor, and protect that player from a single kill made during that night. You can not protect yourself. You win the game with the town, when all the members of the mafia has been lynched or killed.

Tracker - You are a tracker, and can track a person to see who they visited/targetted but don't get to know the performed action. You win the game with the town, when all the members of the mafia has been lynched or killed.

Politician - You are like a normal townie but if you are part of a tied lynch vote, your vote will count more than a standard vote. You win the game with the town, when all the members of the mafia has been lynched or killed.

Townie - You are a townie, and have no special “powers” whatsoever. You win the game with the town, when all the members of the mafia has been lynched or killed.


Further Hosting Information / Rules

- Roughly 72 hours / day, roughly 24 hours / night.
- Exact deadlines will be announced at the start of the period.
- The Periods end at the announced time - even if i have not made the official end of day/night post yet.
- Tie Breaker in tied lynch votes is: "Random amongst people with tied votes" if the politician has not voted for either of the tied lynch candidates. It will not be announced whether the politician or a randomizer decided the lynched person.

- I will reveal the alignment of people that die, but not their exact role.
- I will reveal when a doctor saved a person but i wont reveal who was saved

- If you fail to make a single post on a game day you will get a warning. If it happens a second time you will be kicked out of the game. I try to find a replacement for the same player slot but if i cant find any, the player will be modkilled.
- Roles with night actions can submit their night actions in advance, set "default options" or change their previously submitted actions. I will use the most recently submitted action.
- The mafia will also have to decide who of them will do the factional night kill as with the introduction of the tracker that is important.

A Big Thank You To All MG And ICL Reporters!
And To All Who Organize Something On Daily As Well!


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df_Trek
Good Wink

what do you mean exactly with this?

knockout wrote:
I try to find a replacement for the same player slot

 
quadsas
df_Trek wrote:
Good Wink

what do you mean exactly with this?

knockout wrote:
I try to find a replacement for the same player slot


if doctor gets modkilled, replacement will be a doctor
Manager of the greatest team in the world
DK Žalgiris
 
df_Trek
Aaaah, ok ok now I got it
 
knockout
quadsas wrote:
df_Trek wrote:
Good Wink

what do you mean exactly with this?

knockout wrote:
I try to find a replacement for the same player slot


if doctor gets modkilled, replacement will be a doctor


Exactly this. And he will know all previous night actions by the replaced person so all investigation results and performed night kills etc. And if someone has a mafia read on the replaced person he can use that against the replacing person too.

that said, the rule shouldnt be necessary and the 1 post per 72h game day is so low that everyone should easily stay in so it only would matter in extreme cases of trekbmcing. I hope and expect and that we don't even have to think about replacements/modkill.

A Big Thank You To All MG And ICL Reporters!
And To All Who Organize Something On Daily As Well!


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df_Trek
That's fine, I hope too so Wink
 
knockout
Day 1:
Good morning everybody. Welcome to your new life in our small town! I regret to inform you I have received word that the mafia are infesting new settlements such as this. Maybe keep an eye out.

Roles:

1x Godfather
1x One-Shot Strongman
1x Framer

1x Detective
1x Doctor
1x Tracker
1x Politician
5x Townie

Players:
baseballlover312
Croatia14
df_Trek
hillis91
jandal7
jseadog1
Marcovdw
quadsas
ryant
sammyt93
TheManxMissile
Trekbmc


The first day will end in 72 hours.
 
jandal7
Okay, here goes my first ever playing mafia post Grin I'm not capable of being a direct knockout replacement, and I don't intend to try (just as he will be an awesome and different host to me), but I will quote his town guidelines from last season which I agree with. Just because we have a detective again does not mean we should have any less discussion than last time (just maybe let's not lose this time Pfft).

knockout wrote:
I want to see a couple of guidelines / rules for town behaviour to raise our chances:
- Be active. The toughest players to guess are those that dont post or only post very rarely and those are the ones who help the town the least in tough endgame situations. I'd expect something like 5 posts per "game day" (1 post per RL day) should be easily doable for most. If people repeatedly fail to get there then they should be strongly questioned / considered to get lynched early. If you can post more please feel free to do so. If you get nightkilled because of being too good / too active for a townie you did a great job.
- Always state your reasons for lynching. Tell us your reasons to vote for someone. The same guy has already received three votes? Fine, you dont need to write a long analysis but please give us some short reasoning why you agree with them.
- Never "No lynch" early in the day. I strongly believe that exerting pressure will help the town as it could lead to mistakes by the mafia or at least give us interesting conversations / arguments to come back to it later. Especially now "not lynching" doesnt help us since we dont get any further information from waiting a day without the help of detectives.
- Dont fear to change your vote during the day. With that i mean: At the start of the day argue against whoever is the most likely mafia from your POV. It should never be the question between just two players like in the jseadog vs Croatia vote in one of the more recent editions. If your target hasnt received any attention yet convince us! Closer to the end of the day, if you cant get a wagon on your preferred target please decide who of the possible lynch candidates is your best choice. Reason: Nobody should be able to hide for three game days by continuing to bash sammyt and ignore the entire rest of the discussion. Although ideally you would give a slightly longer explanation for your change of mind.


In that vein, lynch ryant. He has had a simple town role for too long, and I'm not buying that he will again! I will keep changing this throughout the day to inactive or suspicious players.
ALLEZ ALLEZ ALLEZ

30/12/14 - matt17br said "Sutty's birthday is more important than [Jesus' Birthday]"
[ICL] Santos-Euskadi | The Life And Times | [PCT] i.imgur.com/c85NSl6.png Xero Racing p/b Octagon
[CX] Listerijns & BoK

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jandal7
Also another reminder that we have 3 days now, not 5, so we should try get down to business faster on each day and start posting earlier, even just a quick one with a bigger one later, to maximise our discussion time. Compared to last season of course where the 5 days made for an almost too leisurely pace (from where I was sitting Pfft)
ALLEZ ALLEZ ALLEZ

30/12/14 - matt17br said "Sutty's birthday is more important than [Jesus' Birthday]"
[ICL] Santos-Euskadi | The Life And Times | [PCT] i.imgur.com/c85NSl6.png Xero Racing p/b Octagon
[CX] Listerijns & BoK

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i.imgur.com/RPIlJYr.png
i.imgur.com/olRsxdu.png
 
quadsas
checking in to say absolutely nothing. its gonna be the theme of my posts here
Manager of the greatest team in the world
DK Žalgiris
 
jandal7
quadsas wrote:
checking in to say absolutely nothing. its gonna be the theme of my posts here

Please don’t! Awful tactic if you are town. Put a lynch on someone, discuss my posts, tell us your thoughts on tactics. And I really hope nothing posts don’t become a theme. You are a useless townie and an obstacle or mafia. I don’t want to jump around with my lynch but you seem like a good option when ryant turns up.
ALLEZ ALLEZ ALLEZ

30/12/14 - matt17br said "Sutty's birthday is more important than [Jesus' Birthday]"
[ICL] Santos-Euskadi | The Life And Times | [PCT] i.imgur.com/c85NSl6.png Xero Racing p/b Octagon
[CX] Listerijns & BoK

i.imgur.com/PdCbs9I.png
i.imgur.com/RPIlJYr.png
i.imgur.com/olRsxdu.png
 
quadsas
jandal7 wrote:
quadsas wrote:
checking in to say absolutely nothing. its gonna be the theme of my posts here

Please don’t! Awful tactic if you are town. Put a lynch on someone, discuss my posts, tell us your thoughts on tactics. And I really hope nothing posts don’t become a theme. You are a useless townie and an obstacle or mafia. I don’t want to jump around with my lynch but you seem like a good option when ryant turns up.


It's all part of the plan
Manager of the greatest team in the world
DK Žalgiris
 
quadsas
quadsas wrote:
jandal7 wrote:
quadsas wrote:
checking in to say absolutely nothing. its gonna be the theme of my posts here

Please don’t! Awful tactic if you are town. Put a lynch on someone, discuss my posts, tell us your thoughts on tactics. And I really hope nothing posts don’t become a theme. You are a useless townie and an obstacle or mafia. I don’t want to jump around with my lynch but you seem like a good option when ryant turns up.


It's all part of the plan


In fact I suggest you change your vote to me or you're going in my notes as a prime suspect
Manager of the greatest team in the world
DK Žalgiris
 
df_Trek
quadsas wrote:
checking in to say absolutely nothing. its gonna be the theme of my posts here


I don't feel this as the cleverest mafia move, but I want more from you, that's not actually the best way to help the town
 
df_Trek
I'm not lynching someone right now because last play was an example on how the citizens were bad influenced by wrong lynch votes, I'll wait for at least a post by everyone or a post that I'll feel dirty to express my vote
 
quadsas
df_Trek wrote:
I'm not lynching someone right now because last play was an example on how the citizens were bad influenced by wrong lynch votes, I'll wait for at least a post by everyone or a post that I'll feel dirty to express my vote


You refuse to get sheeped? Blasphemy
Manager of the greatest team in the world
DK Žalgiris
 
df_Trek
In fact I suggest you change your vote to me or you're going in my notes as a prime suspect


Points against this behaviour:
-as I said this is not best mafia move, in particular declaring it (or maybe double-cross?), but what's the point to keep this line carrying on with the game? Stay far from the lights?--> typical mafia behaviour
-if you are town, mafia will point at you in first night kills, you are not a person that the doctor will likely save, as useless for city investigations
-if you have a power pro-town role city needs you, so or in the future you have to interact more, or don't follow a so suspicious behaviour, otherwise none will follow you
 
df_Trek
quadsas wrote:
df_Trek wrote:
I'm not lynching someone right now because last play was an example on how the citizens were bad influenced by wrong lynch votes, I'll wait for at least a post by everyone or a post that I'll feel dirty to express my vote


You refuse to get sheeped? Blasphemy


Early wrong lynch with apparently no reason brought to pointless discussion and very bad defence strategy, I just want a good reason for putting my vote and debate over it
 
sammyt93
Just checking in to say cool to see this one has started again.

There really isn't anything to go on at the early stage so I will follow my plan from last game of trying to draw at least something out of everyone early to see who the more proactive players are likely to be.

I guess I just start at the bottom and work my way up again like last time, so by that logic

Lynch Trekbmc

Just to check, 72 hours is 3 days, so 19:00 on the 15th is the deadline?
 
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