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Jorge14
About Michael Woods 76Mountain with 79Hills seems fair for him? Or do you think he needs more Mountain stat?
 
AiZaK
In my opinion Woods would be 78 mountain and 80 hills
 
AiZaK
My stats:

MOUNTAIN / HILLS :
Froome 83/77
Mikel Landa 82/78
Pinot 82/78
Egan Bernal 82/76
Bardet 82/78
Simon Yates 82/78
Quintana 81/76
Kruijswijk 81/76
Superman Lopez 81/77
Porte 81/78
Thomas 81/77
Nibali 81/78
Adam Yates 80/78
Carapaz 80/76
T. Dumolin 80/77
Roglic 80/78
Buchmann 80/76
Urán 79/78
Enric Más 79/77
Valverde 79/82
Mollema 79/79
Fuglsang 79/81
Pozzovivo 79/78
Zakarin 79/77
Poels 79/78
Majka 79/77
Esteban Chaves 78/77
Dan Martin 78/79
Mikel Nieve 78/77
Barguil 78/77
G. Bennett 78/76
Kelderman 78/78
Woods 78/80
Pogacar 78/76
Marc Soler 78/76
Ciccone 78/76
Aru 78/76
P. Bilbao 78/75
Ivan Sosa 78/76
Kreuziger 77/79
Anacona 77/75
Sergio Henao 77/78
Rui Costa 77/78
L. De Plus 77/77
Formolo 77/78
Hugh Carthy 77/75
Gesink 77/76
Damiano Caruso 77/75
Gaudu 77/78
David de la Cruz 77/76
Van Garderen 77/75
Hirt 77/75
Alaphilippe 77/83
Spilak 77/76
Ion Izaguirre 77/78
Guillaume Martin 77/76
Reichenbach 77
Lutsenko 76/78
Sivakov 76
Dani Navarro 76/74
Meintjes 76/75
B. Jungels 76/76
Kuss 76/74
Gorka Izaguirre 76/77
Madouas 76/76
Amador 76/76
B. Hermans 76/75
Tolhoek 76/74
Jesus Herrada 75/77
Kwiatkowski 75/79
Luisle 75/76
J. Knox 75/75
Omar Fraile 75/75
Kämna 75/73
D. Teuns 75/80
Pardilla 75/73
Visconti 74/76
Dunbar 74/76
Edited by AiZaK on 28-08-2019 12:01
 
Agent David
I think these are very good stats! But I would decrease Nairo's MON (80) and up Carapaz's MON and HILL (81/77-78). And I have Alaphilippe is 78/82 in my DB, but maybe it's a little bit overrated, 77/82 can be too.
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cio93
For a suggestion of Madrazo's stats, I would like to refer to the ManGame DB. Cool
 
Tafiolmo
Arberg: Yes I certainly agree with your assessment about Froome but I think the time to decrease him will be for PCM19 rather than PCM18. Because after all he is a rider that can seemingly perform miracles and I don't think his page is quite finished yet!

Aizak: Unfortunately can't give a date for the next update as the team members that do the bugfixes, testing and release haven't been online in some days. The only consolation is that the WT stats are being done as the Vuelta progresses.

Aizak wow I've never seen so many stats posted like so. In fact your stats are very much the same as our DB stats especially the differences between mtn and hill and you tend to use a stat matrix one point higher as well. Will look at these in more detail when I get some free time.

Alaphilippe is ideal imo at 77/82 due to his impressive backup stats and especially that acc stat. Carapaz is an 80 but based on your matrix would fit an 81. In our db he is a medium to strong 80 which I think is correct. Quintana we still have at 80 but is a very weak 80 in some respects. Surprised that you still give Porte such a high stat as he's really not the rider he was and also has good TT to still make him a good GT rider.

Cio93: Madrazo's existing stats look ok could possibly do with a point more in mtn and hill largely to bring him closer to Jo.Herrada who is probably the better climber, Madrazo was just far more inspired today and looked like the gutsy rider that he was some years ago.
i.imgur.com/4lzg5Db.png
 
AiZaK
I agree with you Tafiolmo, Porte maybe better 80
 
Agent David
As there was the problem with Diego Milan's wrong low stats, I know the cause. It was misplacing his stats with stats of Juan Juarez, who has in update 3 stats of Diego Milan. I've found this some weeks ago but I forgot to post it here Embarassed
Here is the photo of his right stats from update 2: nsm09.casimages.com/img/2019/08/29//19082912032424610416383295.png
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Croatia14
Agent David wrote:
As there was the problem with Diego Milan's wrong low stats, I know the cause. It was misplacing his stats with stats of Juan Juarez, who has in update 3 stats of Diego Milan. I've found this some weeks ago but I forgot to post it here Embarassed
Here is the photo of his right stats from update 2: nsm09.casimages.com/img/2019/08/29//19082912032424610416383295.png


great spot, fixed that!
 
Agent David
Croatia14 wrote:
Agent David wrote:
As there was the problem with Diego Milan's wrong low stats, I know the cause. It was misplacing his stats with stats of Juan Juarez, who has in update 3 stats of Diego Milan. I've found this some weeks ago but I forgot to post it here Embarassed
Here is the photo of his right stats from update 2: nsm09.casimages.com/img/2019/08/29//19082912032424610416383295.png


great spot, fixed that!


You're welcome! Wink Wink

I think I found another bug, Georg Zimmermann is from Augsburg, Germany, but in DB he is from Austria.

Edit: And Antonio Puppio from Kometa is from Lombardia, Italy, but in DB he's from Spain Wink
Edited by Agent David on 29-08-2019 18:37
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MartijnVDD
Are riders like Gerts, Pozdnyakov and Mannaerts removed from the Tarteletto team in the next update?
 
dns
Will the update be released after vuelta?
will the results of the vuelta be considered in the latest update?
 
AiZaK
The King Valverde is back!!! He was very good in le Tour and amazing in la Vuelta

Which stats do you think he deserve???
Maybe 80 mountain and 82 hills???
 
Tafiolmo
Dns- Due to some unforseen circumstances there has been an obvious delay in the update but the good news is that we are now hoping for a post Vuelta update and will keep all informed nearer the time, admittedly a Tour late but better late than never!

Aizak- He's 78/81 at the moment and with good form imo he would be able to perform like so in the Vuelta, given the fact that Roglic is a borderline 79/80 and Pogacar 79 he is close to these riders anyway and of course has the second highest hill stat in the matrix. Also Aizak have been going through your stats list and have worked a couple of these stats in, so thanks for that list.

What I'd really like is opinions on how to decipher Quintana. On the one hand he has the old magic at times with stage victories in the GT's but on the other is a disaster and even his great three week rec stat is now so inconsistent. We have him 80/76 with just 72 res which does make him a weak 80. Have thought of dropping him to 79 mtn which would make him a weak 79 with his other stats and also have dropped his TT also. Will see if there is any improvement in him over the final week.
Edited by Tafiolmo on 09-09-2019 17:59
i.imgur.com/4lzg5Db.png
 
AiZaK
Hi Tafiolmo, I agree with Nairo Quintana stats his 80/76
 
jpgm97
Less than 80 for Quintana is too harsh. It may not matter much but he is first on 2019 PCS climbers ranking, which at least says something.

I agree that maybe lowering his recovery stat may be right, as he isn't consistent as he once was, but at the same time still provides very good mountain performances every year.

And also he has low RES, so if you lowered his MON stat, he would become one of the worst 79 climbers.
 
Ollfardh
Isn't Quintana's problem mainly his REC? The last few years he's going in between great stages and total breakdowns, that's a REC issue for me..
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
 
dns
@Tafiolmo:
thanks for your reply, as you said, better late than never.
hopefully you will get the unpredictable problems under control and the update will be ready soon. i'm lloking forward for the update and can hardly wait. :-)
thanks for your work, thanks for your time.
 
AiZaK
Hi guys!

Do you have many things left to fix to get the patch?
 
valencianista77
Any news about the new update?

Thanks!
 
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