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Ollfardh
baseballlover312 wrote:
Ollfardh wrote:
Aru seems a bit weak here, last year sure wasn't his thing, but as a former GT winner I think he deserves better. 2015 isn't that long ago. In 2017 I think he was also doing quite well in Le Tour before he got sick. Putting him behind guys like Majka and Pozzovivo seems a bit harsh.

I'd also put Dennis on par with Dumoulin in TT stat. Last year, Dennis defeated Dumoulin in every TT except the Giro prologue which he lost by 2 seconds.


To be fair, doesn't the Daily DB only take into account the last two years too? And Pozzo has consistently been at the front of Giro GC.

I mean, in reality, 2015 was pretty long ago. That's like if we judged Ivan Basso in 2014 by his 2010 Giro win.


Yes and no, Basso was aging badly, Aru is (or should be) still in his prime.

Not sure about how many years are still taken into account, but if you look at for example Tony Martin's TT stat, that has to be well over two years Pfft
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Tafiolmo
I think Aru is statted accurately as his last good performance was in Le Tour in 2017 and before and after he has been poor in relation to the other GT contenders. His GT victory is really too far back to be considered and as Baseballover stated we really do not go back more than 2 years in most instances. The problem with Aru is that he is so inconsistent and normally more poor than good especially last season. He in fact rode like a 78 climber that often lost contact with the favs when things got serious. In fact I remember asking on here suggestions on how to stat Aru as he is that hard and his stats are mostly the suggestions that were made here.

Dennis has more of a case against Dumoulin as to who should be the best TT rider and they are 1 point different BUT Dennis is superior by 4 points on pro which is an important difference. I haven't tested so far with this DB how they fair against each other yet but if anybody has done a long flat TT with both would be good to know.
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valaorome
Hi,

will we have a new stat version nextly?


Thanks

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Tafiolmo
valaorome wrote:
Hi,

will we have a new stat version nextly?


Thanks

Regards


A new update is about to come out fixing some previous errors and adding some new teams and more updated PCT and CT stats mostly.

The next update after this will probably come out after MSR where we will have had a good look at how the WT is going in 2019.
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Captain CoinCoin
Geoffrey Bouchard misses his height and weight. According to PCS, he is 1.77m / 64 kgs
 
Croatia14
Captain CoinCoin wrote:
Geoffrey Bouchard misses his height and weight. According to PCS, he is 1.77m / 64 kgs


implemented and will be in the next update, thanks for the hint Wink
 
Agent David
I hope that I don't write it to wrong thread.

I found your 2019 DB really good. Great job with it. But I noticed that you have czech teams AC Sparta Praha and TUFO Pardus Prostńõjov (it has changed name) very underrated, especially Tom√°Ň° Kaloj√≠ros has very low stats (sprint, acceleration, hill...). In China and Iran he had very good results with St√∂hr brothers and Jan Ryba, here it is: https://www.procy...
TUFO Pardus had also good results, especially with Tom√°Ň° B√°rta in sprints in road cycling and with Wojciech Pszczolarski, Daniel Babor and Ludńõk Lichnovsk√Ĺ in track cycling. I don't know if you count track cycling into stat matrix but Pszczolarski is one of the best.

Already in your 2018 LP I added these two and other two czech teams (Dukla Praha and CK PŇô√≠bram) into game with my stats. Now I updated their roster and stats and I want to post you these. I'm maybe overrating their stats (I'm from Czech Republic Smile ) and I'm definitely overrating their potential Smile Embarassed. But I'd like you to look at it and maybe I'll help you somehow.
Here it is: https://docs.goog...
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oreclub
I can't see the whole document... Sad
 
Agent David
Sorry, wrong link Embarassed :
https://docs.goog...edit#gid=0

The stats are based on ProCyclingStats results.
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My Google stat document about czech riders

 
Vizbragz
The work on CT is currently in progress, in our 2019 sheet, Elkov is updated, Sparta Praha and Pardus not yet.

I've found some stats for Pardus from 2018 and adapted them a bit with the new riders. It should match with your ideas more than the initial stuff. I'll focus on Sparta Praha later this week.

Indeed, you overrated the riders. I tried to scale with the teams from Central Europe we've already made (Elkov, Wibatech, Tirol, etc.). I've some doubts like Babor's potential, he may deserve a potential 4 but his first pro year wasn't that promising.

cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/527935029792210945/560212390440992793/unknown.png


For the other teams you've sent, we may add the best of their riders in our free agents once we'll have finished to update the CT teams. We should be at 50% right now or something like that.

Don't hesitate to suggest some changes with these new notes. About the track, Adryy8 and me (both working on CT) don't focus on it because it's hard to make the link between track (they can be good sprinters or TTists but not systematically) and road.

By the way, your contributions are really appreciated. For CT especially, it's a good thing to count on national fans. If you want to help CT department, we'll be glad to hear your suggestions for Czech Republic/Central Europe in order to increase the quality of our stats.
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Agent David
Hello,
I'm glad that you found my contributions helpful and I think that these stats, that you posted, are very good. I made these riders and their stats myself for PCMDaily 2018 LP for better enjoyment of the game and I adapted them a little to level of other teams.
I made stats for other free czech riders, so I can contribute them too. And I made stats for Elkov, too, but they're very similar to yours.
Edited by Agent David on 27-03-2019 18:29
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My Google stat document about czech riders

 
oreclub
Agent David wrote:
Sorry, wrong link Embarassed :
https://docs.goog...edit#gid=0

The stats are based on ProCyclingStats results.


I was talking about the main document, but I'm glad to help Wink
 
Vizbragz
oreclub wrote:
Agent David wrote:
Sorry, wrong link Embarassed :
https://docs.goog...edit#gid=0

The stats are based on ProCyclingStats results.


I was talking about the main document, but I'm glad to help Wink


Well, the document linked in the first page isn't updated anymore. I don't know if I can share the new sheet however.
imgur.com/8nXaTTn.png
 
oreclub
Vizbragz wrote:
oreclub wrote:
Agent David wrote:
Sorry, wrong link Embarassed :
https://docs.goog...edit#gid=0

The stats are based on ProCyclingStats results.


I was talking about the main document, but I'm glad to help Wink


Well, the document linked in the first page isn't updated anymore. I don't know if I can share the new sheet however.

Sad
 
Agent David
I looked at your stats once more, and I think Doln√≠ńćek should have TTR 60/61, PRL 63 and SPR 60/61, ACC 61, I overrated his sprint skills. By the way, I get this track "problem", it's hard to implement these stats to your matrix.
I'm uploading new (live) stats time by time into my document, plus I'll add more riders.
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My Google stat document about czech riders

 
Vizbragz
Agent David wrote:
I looked at your stats once more, and I think Doln√≠ńćek should have TTR 60/61, PRL 63 and SPR 60/61, ACC 61, I overrated his sprint skills. By the way, I get this track "problem", it's hard to implement these stats to your matrix.
I'm uploading new (live) stats time by time into my document, plus I'll add more riders.


It's not a problem, the differences between 60/61/62 are very small and subjective ingame. I like to put 61/62 instead of 60 for a rider who demonstrated a very little thing in a discipline but the rider's shape will be more decisive than a one point difference.

I've updated AC Sparta Praha a few days ago and the teams are available in Update 2. It's a bit difficult to make a proper hierarchy between the sprinters, I hope to see them back in China in order to improve this.

cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/527935029792210945/564416370058461204/unknown.png

imgur.com/8nXaTTn.png
 
jeremyrobin
I added the maximum weight and size to the riders of the world tour teams who did not have information in these columns.


https://www.sendbo...elease.cdb
 
marcoplv95
Where are the stats in the DB? In "effectifs" i see only 9 riders.

Edit: I had to create a new filter to see every riders, they were hidden
Edited by marcoplv95 on 10-04-2019 15:12
 
marcoplv95
In this database R.Evenepoel is 168cm tall, wikipedia in my language says 170cm:
https://it.wikipe..._Evenepoel
 
Kompakt
Will the updated database be uploaded to the Google Document?
 
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