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In my 7th season on career mode the Tour de France finally had a climber friendly route so I took part. I won 5 stages (all steep finishes) and finished overall on exactly the same time as Bob Jungels (who didn't win a stage during tour.)

On the 20th stage ITT he placed well above me to pull back time and tie the GC - and was given the yellow jersey and overall lead.

My question is, is that how it would play out in reality? His higher placing on stage when time is equal earns him yellow jersey? Or would not my multiple stage victories give me the jersey?

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matt17br
I might be wrong, but in real life, they would sum each rider's stage placements, and if even then the riders are tied, they take the last stage result to decide who's the winner.
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Supernutz
I wondered this too. Went into the last competitive stage down around 30 seconds on Quintana. Managed to attack late on Alp D'huez and win the stage...But Quintana finished second...Close enough that the time bonuses gave us identical GC times.

Quintana wore yellow in Paris. I wasn't at all sure what the the tie breaking rules were.

It was still epic though. I had a good time imagining how chaotic and excited the commentators would have been.
 
Ripley
In real life wouldn't it depend on the fractions of a second from the time trials? I thought that might be the case with PCM but I checked and the recorded time is only in seconds. So I think it's random. I haven't looked at this in depth, but in many smaller stage races with few gaps I have seen several riders with the same time and couldn't find a good reason for how they are sorted, not by the number of sprint points, not by the best placed finish in a stage nor the average placing in all stages.
 
sammyt93
Ripley wrote:
In real life wouldn't it depend on the fractions of a second from the time trials? I thought that might be the case with PCM but I checked and the recorded time is only in seconds. So I think it's random. I haven't looked at this in depth, but in many smaller stage races with few gaps I have seen several riders with the same time and couldn't find a good reason for how they are sorted, not by the number of sprint points, not by the best placed finish in a stage nor the average placing in all stages.


Pretty sure it's done by lowest total stage placings, at least that's my experience from GT's with a TTT then sprint stages when bonus seconds didn't factor in, due to going to riders to far down GC to matter.

That said knowing PCM can be weird, it might have been best placed on the previous stage or just be stages where they finish same time and I hadn't realised due to that being all of them.
 
Ripley
sammyt93 wrote:
Pretty sure it's done by lowest total stage placings


You are absolutely right, I think. I looked through my weekly saves for a GC with several riders on the same time and found this Tour Down Under:

i.imgur.com/F8WejUY.png

Bardet did not once score points towards the points jersey, his best stage result was 11th. All the riders behind him can beat that, they all scored a few points, they all did better on at least one stage. But if I add up all six stage results it gives me the correct ranking:

Bardet 11, 22, 47, 64, 65, 80 (289)
de Amorin 5, 9, 68, 68, 69, 92 (311)
Wurzer 7, 10, 76, 82, 82, 84 (341)
Koch 6, 32, 70, 79, 79, 82 (348)
Swolfs 8, 15, 86, 86, 99, 102 (396)
Mayordomo 9, 11, 96, 97, 103, 106 (422)
Skujins 4, 45, 95, 104, 105, 113 (466)
 
bask
Thank guys. Tallied up stage results over tour and Jungels total was 1,146 where as mine was 1,313.

Fair is fair.
 
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