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Giro di Lombardia Discussion
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Giro di Lombardia


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The 2016 PT season comes to an end in traditional fashion with the Giro di Lombardia. One of the longest races on the calendar and equally one of the most historic, it should prove a fitting ending to the season. While the title seems to wrapped up, the battle for the next few places in the rankings remains very much alive - and the relegation picture could still potentially change here.


The Puncheurs

HILMOSTARESACC
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/akm.png Hagen8570817479
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/btc.png Bakelants8475817878
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/tsa_rus.png Trofimov8378807876
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/kdd_ita.png Ponzi8373777280
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/bpv.png Claeys8367746873
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/evo.png Skujins8370807776
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/gzl.png Ginanni8370787874
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/ozc_aus.png Bobridge8269747480
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/pum.png Kelderman8271807572
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/mus_usa.png Van Garderen8272787579
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/vsa.png Gastauer8271787076
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/aeg.png De Bie8171777675
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/ora.png Schreurs8169767274
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/pnd.png Lutsenko8073767381
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/bec.png Sagan8074787476
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/gre.png Levarlet7974707268
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/tif.png Koretzky7971777079
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/rbc.png Pichon7970747676


The Climbers

MOHILSTARESACC
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/tif.png Spilak8582808174
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/ora.png Sicard8278807970
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/afr.png Ricco8179798072
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/vuk.png Cunego8079747874
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/pum.png Nerz8072757268
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/afr.png Eastman8071767569
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/afr.png Ratiy8070707358
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/vsa.png Suaza8065657679
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/pum.png Arndt7976777675
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/pum.png Bongiorno7975777769
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/afr.png Meintjes7876757464
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/met.png Karnulin7874767570
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/pnd.png Kohl7872727969
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/tif.png Campero7870757071


The Startlist

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First nameLast name2016 Team
SeanDe BieAegon - Lavazza
DavideVillellaAegon - Lavazza
LarsBoomAegon - Lavazza
MaximillianSchachmannAegon - Lavazza
BjörnThurauAegon - Lavazza
FlorianScheitAegon - Lavazza
JasperBovenhuisAegon - Lavazza
Muhamma AfifAhmad ZamriAegon - Lavazza
Edvald BoassonHagenAker - MOT
KristianDyrnesAker - MOT
DanielHoelgaardAker - MOT
Lorents OlaAasvoldAker - MOT
Vegard RobinsonBuggeAker - MOT
StanislauBazhkouAker - MOT
Lars PetterNordhaugAker - MOT
Sindre Skj√łstadLunkeAker - MOT
PeterSaganBecherovka - Petrof
PetrVakocBecherovka - Petrof
MatejVysnaBecherovka - Petrof
MichaelKolarBecherovka - Petrof
AndreiSakalouBecherovka - Petrof
IliaKoshevoyBecherovka - Petrof
JosefHosekBecherovka - Petrof
MichaelBoroŇ°Becherovka - Petrof
JanBakelantsBouygues Telecom
WarrenBarguilBouygues Telecom
IrakliBablidzeBouygues Telecom
AnthonyDelaplaceBouygues Telecom
StefanoAgostiniBouygues Telecom
MaximeLa LavandierBouygues Telecom
TonyMartinBouygues Telecom
Jo√£oGasparBouygues Telecom
DimitriClaeysBpost - Vlaanderen
PieterSerryBPost - Vlaanderen
EliotLietaerBpost - Vlaanderen
JelleWallaysBpost - Vlaanderen
BobSchoonbroodtBPost - Vlaanderen
MathieuLa LavandierBpost - Vlaanderen
GuillaumeVan KeirsbulckBpost - Vlaanderen
NielsVandyckBPost - Vlaanderen
IanBoswelleBuddy
MauritsLammertinkeBuddy
JonathanCastroviejoeBuddy
RamonSinkeldameBuddy
WesleyKredereBuddy
BaukeMollemaeBuddy
FlorisGertseBuddy
PaulMartenseBuddy
TomsSkujinsEvonik - ELKO
EvaldasSiskeviciusEvonik - ELKO
PawelPoljanskiEvonik - ELKO
AndrisSmirnovsEvonik - ELKO
MichelKochEvonik - ELKO
AndrisVosekalnsEvonik - ELKO
PhilipLindauEvonik - ELKO
IndulisBekmanisEvonik - ELKO
FrancescoGinanniGazelle
MaximeMonfortGazelle
BlazFurdiGazelle
MorenoHoflandGazelle
DavideFormoloGazelle
PatrickKonradGazelle
JanTratnikGazelle
RomanSenyenovGazelle
GuillaumeLevarletGrieg - Eftel
ChristopherJuul-JensenGrieg - Eftel
TravisMeyerGrieg - Eftel
CalvinWatsonGrieg - Eftel
KristofferSkjerpingGrieg - Eftel
WillieSmitGrieg - Eftel
MichaelVinkGrieg - Eftel
SoufianeHaddiGrieg - Eftel
JackBobridgeJayco'z Cycling Project
NathanHaasJayco'z Cycling Project
Chun KaiFengJayco'z Cycling Project
Pierre PaoloPenasaJayco'z Cycling Project
MarcusBurghardtJayco'z Cycling Project
ChengJiJayco'z Cycling Project
JacobSalconeJayco'z Cycling Project
AlexWohlerJayco'z Cycling Project
SimonePonziKenya Airways - Dimension Data
MichaŇāKwiatkowskiKenya Airways - Dimension Data
JacoVenterKenya Airways - Dimension Data
CostaSeibebKenya Airways - Dimension Data
JayThomsonKenya Airways - Dimension Data
Hillary KiprotichKenya Airways - Dimension Data
AlbertKirevaKenya Airways - Dimension Data
StijnVandenberghKenya Airways - Dimension Data
AndriiBratashcukMetinvest-Dacia
NicolaeTanovitchiiMetinvest-Dacia
DenysKarnulinMetinvest-Dacia
OleksandrGrygorenkoMetinvest-Dacia
KonstantinKlimiankouMetinvest-Dacia
StefanPetrovskiMetinvest-Dacia
AnatoliySosnitskiyMetinvest-Dacia
VolodymyrDzhusMetinvest-Dacia
TejayVan GarderenMovistar - US Postal
AlexeyTsatevichMovistar - US Postal
BjornSelanderMovistar - US Postal
JorgeAbreuMovistar - US Postal
ChadHagaMovistar - US Postal
TaylorNewtonMovistar - US Postal
Serafin JoséBlancoMovistar - US Postal
RamonDomeneMovistar - US Postal
MauriceSchreursOrange - KLM Cycling
RomainSicardOrange - KLM Cycling
NicolasEdetOrange - KLM Cycling
ArthurVichotOrange - KLM Cycling
ThomasLebasOrange - KLM Cycling
JonathanHivertOrange - KLM Cycling
AlexandreGeniezOrange - KLM Cycling
DayerQuintanaOrange - KLM Cycling
AlexeyLutsenkoPendleton's
JoshuaEdmondsonPendleton's
YvesNgock NguePendleton's
KleberSilvaPendleton's
JaroslawMaryczPendleton's
BernhardKohlPendleton's
DavidRoschPendleton's
King Lok CheungPendleton's
IonIzagirrePokerstars.com
JanOelerichPokerstars.com
JesusDel NeroPokerstars.com
Miguel AngelBenitoPokerstars.com
Juan AbenhamarGallego MartinPokerstars.com
MarcelSiebergPokerstars.com
Francisco JavierEcharriPokerstars.com
Jon AnderInsaustiPokerstars.com
LaurentPichonRBC Pro Cycling
Kristian HaugaardJensenRBC Pro Cycling
HugoHouleRBC Pro Cycling
PatrickNaudRBC Pro Cycling
ThomasBonninRBC Pro Cycling
CharlesMatteRBC Pro Cycling
ChristianBertilssonRBC Pro Cycling
DanMcLayRBC Pro Cycling
MatejMohoricRed Bull - Huawei
PengdaJiaoRed Bull - Huawei
ArvinMoazemiRed Bull - Huawei
Alex AriyaDestriboisRed Bull - Huawei
AltanzulAltansukhRed Bull - Huawei
AhmadArissolRed Bull - Huawei
UlugbekGalievRed Bull - Huawei
MorenoMoserRed Bull - Huawei
SimonSpilakTeam I-Gen - Festina
ClementKoretzkyTeam I-Gen - Festina
OlivierLe GacTeam I-Gen - Festina
CharalampasKastrantasTeam I-Gen - Festina
TomDavidTeam I-Gen - Festina
AlexisGougeardTeam I-Gen - Festina
MarkusEibeggerTeam I-Gen - Festina
PiterCamperoTeam I-Gen - Festina
WilcoKeldermanTeam Puma - SAP
FabioFellineTeam Puma - SAP
NikiasArndtTeam Puma - SAP
JetseBolTeam Puma - SAP
FrancescoBongiornoTeam Puma - SAP
ChristianMagerTeam Puma - SAP
SilvioHerklotzTeam Puma - SAP
DominiqueNerzTeam Puma - SAP
RiccardoRiccoTeam Telkom for Africa
LouisMeintjesTeam Telkom for Africa
John-LeeAugustynTeam Telkom for Africa
MeronRussomTeam Telkom for Africa
Shaun NickBesterTeam Telkom for Africa
RyanEastmanTeam Telkom for Africa
VadimRatiyTeam Telkom for Africa
NolanHoffmanTeam Telkom for Africa
YuriTrofimovTinkoff Sport Academy
IlnurZakarinTinkoff Sport Academy
SergeyChernetskiyTinkoff Sport Academy
AlexanderRybakovTinkoff Sport Academy
IvanRovnyTinkoff Sport Academy
SergeyShilovTinkoff Sport Academy
MaximPokidovTinkoff Sport Academy
VladimirGusevTinkoff Sport Academy
BenGastauerVesuvio - Accumalux
FrankSchleckVesuvio - Accumalux
MaciejPaterskiVesuvio - Accumalux
SimonPellaudVesuvio - Accumalux
Nandra EkoWahyudiVesuvio - Accumalux
ValensNdayisengaVesuvio - Accumalux
SakariLehtinenVesuvio - Accumalux
JaimeSuazaVesuvio - Accumalux
DamianoCunegoVisitUkraine p/b Nemiroff
OleksandrPrevarVisitUkraine p/b Nemiroff
IgnasKonovalovasVisitUkraine p/b Nemiroff
PaoloScarponiVisitUkraine p/b Nemiroff
YevgeniNepomnyachsniyVisitUkraine p/b Nemiroff
ArtemTopchanyukVisitUkraine p/b Nemiroff
AdrianNituVisitUkraine p/b Nemiroff
JakubSkalaVisitUkraine p/b Nemiroff

 
ember
Really intrigued to see how this one plays out looking at the mountainous hills, but also the downhill finish. Makes me think Spilak is the favourite, but anything can happen, really.

Fingers crossed for a podium by Boasson Hagen, which would be a great end to the season for us. Though, a top 10 is the most important goal, as that's a sponsor goal. Completing it could be promising considering the budget for 2017, as it would give us 4/5 this year.
 
fjhoekie
Come on Cunego, end your career on a high!
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tastasol
Our last in the PT for a while, hopefully we can do something here. Some mid-race attacks would be wonderful.

Hope that our Norwegian friend, Edvald Boasson Hagen can take the win, but fear the MO/Hill ratio for him. Guys like Spilak and Trofimov should be hard to beat here.
 
tsmoha
Not expecting too much from Bobridge, but of course I hope he will grab some valuable points with a solid finish. Just repeat Tasmania.. and not something bad like LBL..

Not sure about the newest rankings and how relaxed we can be Smile
 
SotD
Last season we had a very very hard time going into this race, but a true miracle made us overperform to take the throne. This season, there's no possible way for us to lose the battle - if I'm not mistaken we are close to 2000 points ahead of number 2. (1800 points or so). So this time we can sit back and enjoy whatever comes our way.

On paper we have a strong setup for both possible solutions, whether it be a punchy stage with a long rage attack (Koretzky) or a top top favorite stage (Spilak). Also with riders like Le Gac, David, Campero, Kastrantas, Gougeard and Eibegger we are as strong as we can possibly get deducting Coppel who would be a waste of racedays.

What I will look for is the top 5 battle and the relegation battle. Nothing is certain, but for me the relegation battle is between Movistar and Pokerstars. Pokerstars will need to be lucky to fight for more points than Gazelle, and the gap to RBC is too big. Movistar have Tejay van Garderen who could potentially score anywhere between 50-280 points. He will need to get atleast 4th if my math isn't totally off, to get enough points for Movistar to realistically stay up.

On the other end of the table it is a battle between Becherovka, Aegon, Aker, Vesuvio, Puma and potentially (if scoring a huge result) Tinkoff or Evonik. I can't remember a season where the top fight (behind the winner) have been this close. Between 2nd and 11th is just 550 points, and among the top 8 is only 350. My bet here is that either Aker, Vesuvio or Evonik will surpass Becherovka, but only one of them will. So podium seems secure for our czech friends, but 2nd will need either Sagan to perform very very well, or for those three top top riders to all perform slightly below top level.
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FroomeDog99
Hoping for the perfect conclusion to a disappointing season. On home turf Ponzi has to be the favourite, especially after his exploits last year so fingers crossed.
 
roturn
Win goal. :lol:

Come one team. Finish this very strong season in style.
 
alexkr00
Any chance we might have a rankings update before the race? Grin
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DubbelDekker
The big showdown. We're extremely close to relegation, but a good performance by Ginnani will most likely guarantee we stay up. Absolute thriller.
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Roman
I really need a miracle this time. Every point is going to to count in the battle for top 3, my major goal of the season. Go Sagan!
Manager of Moser - Sygic
 
jt1109
One more half decent race please and we are there!!
 
cio93
One last effort, one last opportunity.
We're well-equipped for any race situation, with the pure puncheurs Kelderman, Felline, Bol and Mager as well as the climbers Nerz, Arndt, Bongiorno and Herklotz. I really hope we position well so everyone of them can perform according to their abilities and contribute valuable points.



Places 2-4 are gone, congratulations to Becherovka, Aegon and Aker for that impressive feat.


69 points behind Vesuvio. If Kelderman finishes at least two places ahead of Gastauer, that could be doable if the rest of the team scores well too.

47 points ahead of Evonik. We clearly have the upper hand on them depth-wise, so I hope that suffices more or less regardless of how Kelderman vs Skujins goes.

116 points up on Tinkoff. If Trofimov finishes first or second, they'll surely pass. If he doesn't, I again believe in our depth, especially since their team will probably have to work.



It'll end up being somewhere between 5th and 8th. I can't complain about any of those positions, but I'd surely like one last good race that lives up to our hopes. Even more so because most in the last few months didn't.

Additionally, I'll also keep track of the relegation fight, which certainly won't be very enjoyable considering what's at stake and how likeable all the teams down there are.

Good luck to everyone!
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OlegTinkov
Tasmania disappointing result really hurt our changes to be in the Top-5/Top-3 at the end of the season, everything is so close this season. Also we have a sponsorgoal here (Top-3).
 
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SotD wrote:
On the other end of the table it is a battle between Becherovka, Aegon, Aker, Vesuvio, Puma and potentially (if scoring a huge result) Tinkoff or Evonik. I can't remember a season where the top fight (behind the winner) have been this close. Between 2nd and 11th is just 550 points, and among the top 8 is only 350. My bet here is that either Aker, Vesuvio or Evonik will surpass Becherovka, but only one of them will. So podium seems secure for our czech friends, but 2nd will need either Sagan to perform very very well, or for those three top top riders to all perform slightly below top level.


Sadly, I see no way how we can surpass Becherovka. The point scoring options for Skujins are kinda limited due to the importance of the MO stat and my hill support didnt score well so far in hilly races so I cannot really expect a change in that anyway. Becherovka is gone for me. Aker and Aegon are basically gone as well.

Vesuvio is 116 points ahead which will be very difficult for us to crack. As Gastauer is also a decent option for this Skujins will have to finish on the first two places to have a realistic shot to overtake them which is unlikely.

47 points behind Puma is the most interesting battle for me. This can go eitherway as Skujins > Kelderman but Evonik depth < Puma depth. We're underdog though.

Tinkoff is 69 points behind and they have the top favourite here so they have good chances to overtake me. If he finishes outside of the top two then Skujins might save us though.

eBuddy also within reach but i hardly see them getting enough points without Gesink.

So yeah - 8th place in PT ranking is expected with chances to climb all the way to 5th with a great race. This will still be a great season regardless of how well we do here considering where we stood a season ago, the presesaon expectations and the performance of my leaders.

My favourites are (in order) Trofimov, Spilak and Bakelandts with EBH and Ponzi as obvious contenders. A final highlight from Cunego would be so sweet though.

I'm still hoping for a podium though. Skujins must only be considered an underdog with all the mountains but continuing the streak (so far 5 podiums in 5 attended monuments) would be so damn awesome.
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jt1109
Terrible last race for us though I suspect we stay up as I can't see any Pokerstars riders ahead of mine which will be a celebration all the same!
 
fjhoekie
Well done AI, you kinda messed up... Cunego and Ricco both legends finishing close, would've liked Cunego in the top 10 though, rather than Ricco...

Nepomnyachsniy also in the first group, however that's basically saying nothing with a group that big.
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alexkr00
It looks like we defended the 9th place.
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DubbelDekker
It's official; we stay in the ProTour Grin

Strong finish by Hofland. Picked him up as a level 1 rider in my very first season, so cool to see him finish 7th in a monument. I also have a top 10 goal here, so he saved the day after Ginanni kinda dropped the ball finishing 13th.

Congrats to Kenya! And thanks for the report jph!
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SotD
Simon Spilak will be shot after this season. His team have served the perfect season for him, but again and again he pisses away great opportunities. This time missing an obvious (and easy one would think) goal of making a top 10. Dear god that was dreadful!
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