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Posted on 30-08-2007 10:15
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Levi4life wrote:
Are you talking to yourself Phanekim?
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Posted on 30-08-2007 10:17
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Perhaps its to do with this from cyclingnews:
No Berzin for Tinkoff
Evgeni Berzin will not be returning to the professional peloton with Tinkoff. Although the 37 year-old Russian has spent the summer regaining his form and is a friend of Oleg Tinkov, the latter put an end to any speculation of Berzin's professional involvement with Team Tinkoff. Berzin won the 1994 Giro d'Italia and Liège-Bastogne-Liège, but has since retired from professional competition.
"We are friends, we have made breaks on a bicycle together," said General Manager Stefano Feltrin in a press release. "We have never spoken of his joining our team. We are happy he has found the passion of the sport again, but Evegeni does not enter in our plans and the strategy of team Tinkoff. If he wants to return to competition, he has a great past and great experience."
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Posted on 30-08-2007 10:17
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CrueTrue wrote:
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Valverde has now once and for all been excluded from the World Championship by UCI!
UCI has been studying all the content of the Operation Puerto, and it seems like they have evidence against Valverde. UCI has asked the Spanish federation to open a disciplinary case.
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Posted on 30-08-2007 13:11
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David Millar is to ride the National TT champs, and if he wins he will be the 1st ever British guy to wear both
Nicole Cooke says she loves the Women's World RR route and says she is better prepared than ever before, the route is kind of like the Amstel Gold Race that she won in 2003, lots of climbing which will make for a very demanding race which she likes.
Cav is definatley going out to beat Petacchi's 12 wins this year although he actually said the wrong number during his fight talk, he thought it was only 11
No-one yet knows who Britain's 3rd man will be, but people reckon that Millar and Cav are two of them. They say Cav as they see him as a future world champion and he needs a few world champion races before he is able to win it, so basically for experience.
Also Geraint will ride the U23 race, despite being a 1st year professional he is still eligible because he isn't riding for a ProTour team. He is however the only Britain there due to UCI's allocation of places
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Posted on 30-08-2007 13:27
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Addy291 wrote:
Cav is definatley going out to beat Petacchi's 12 wins
I still can't understand how he got to that number. explanation please?
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Addy291 |
Posted on 30-08-2007 14:04
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i shall quote from cycling weekly
No sooner had Mark Cavendish equalled Robbie McEwen's record of 8 wins in his debut season than he set his sights on a new target.
"Now i want to make it 11" he said after winning stage 2 of the ENECO Tour. "Just like Alessandro Petacchi has managed." Cavendish fears neither rider nor reputation and now wants to equal the 33-year-old Italian's tally.
Cavendish might be one win out (Petacchi has 12 wins this year) but nevertheless, attempting to match in his debut season the wins of the most experienced sprinter in the peleton is typical of his approach to ike races.
so basically he has beaten McEwen's record of 8 wins in his debut season (last time they said that, they mentioned it was including criteriums, that may be where it's confusing you)
and now he is going for Petacchi's 12 wins this year, well that is how i see it anyway
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Posted on 30-08-2007 14:30
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uhh...but even counting Criteriums. McEwen has never had 8 wins in a season
what's the season, his first as a professional? his first at a division 1 team? (EDIT: on second thought, that's the same season)his first in the ProTour?
and Petacchi's 12, what season are you talking about also?
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Posted on 30-08-2007 14:31
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McEwen's 1st year as professional
Petacchi's 12 this season
it did state the races McEwen won in an older CW i will have a look for it
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Posted on 30-08-2007 14:34
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Addy291 wrote:
McEwen's 1st year as professional
it did state the races McEwen won in an older CW i will have a look for it
I'd appreciate it. the sources I can find say 1 win
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Petacchi's 12 this season
uhm...Petacchi has 15 wins. and even if you only count stage wins, he has 13...
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Posted on 30-08-2007 14:51
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unfortunatley i couldn't find names of races bar 1 but anyway
According to statistics Robbie McEwen won 10 races in his first season as a professional in 1996, but three of those wins came in the pro-am Sun Tour race in Australia and another two were criteriums.
and yes i know that doesn't add up to make 8 either, so i'm not sure where all these numbers are coming from to be honest, and i'm definatley not sure about the Petacchi bit
if it helps, you may only get 1 stage win from your sources as he only got 1 UCI-classified stage win, i'm not sure but that may be why
Edited by Addy291 on 30-08-2007 14:53
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Posted on 30-08-2007 15:53
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Addy291 wrote:
unfortunatley i couldn't find names of races bar 1 but anyway
According to statistics Robbie McEwen won 10 races in his first season as a professional in 1996, but three of those wins came in the pro-am Sun Tour race in Australia and another two were criteriums.
and yes i know that doesn't add up to make 8 either, so i'm not sure where all these numbers are coming from to be honest, and i'm definatley not sure about the Petacchi bit
if it helps, you may only get 1 stage win from your sources as he only got 1 UCI-classified stage win, i'm not sure but that may be why
those races by McEwen were probably riding by himself or for Australian national teams. his only win for Rabobank that year (1996) was a stage in the Vuelta a Murcia.
as for Petacchi, I have no idea where Cavendish is getting the twelve
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Posted on 30-08-2007 16:04
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actually Cav said 11 it was the so called "experts" that said 12, they must've made a mistake then
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Posted on 30-08-2007 16:29
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a little research I just did:
Alessandro Petacchi:
first season as a professional:
0 wins
second season :
1 win (2 if you count a KOM classification)
first season as a sprinter AND first season in a division 1 team:
4 wins
first ProTour season (2005, first year of the ProTour):
25 wins (27 if you count overalls)
plus a bucketload of points classifications
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Posted on 30-08-2007 18:51
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27 wins... that guy is amazing. Don't you think thatthat? |
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Posted on 30-08-2007 18:56
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to be honest i hate him, i don't know why but seen as i hate him i can't find the energy to praise him, ever
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Posted on 30-08-2007 19:10
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what I'm thinking about is the specialized training.
he was a decent climber. KOM in the Tour of Langkawi, a stage win, etc.
suddenly he decides he wants to sprint....he starts training specifically for sprints. he's now no longer a decent climber but he's a fabulous sprinter.
just think how many careers were wasted because a rider was training for the wrong specializations...
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Posted on 30-08-2007 20:13
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more dopage
Where now for Alejandro Valverde? Banned from the Worlds because of accusations of possible links to Operacion Puerto, the Spanish star could expect a summons in the near future from his Federation to answer questions about the case.
But Valverde may also have to hand over a sample of his DNA - as he agreed to do in July prior to racing the Tour de France when he signed the UCI's anti-doping charter.
If Valverde does so, then the links between himself and Puerto could finally be resolved in one sense or another.
However, the question of what exactly the UCI have discovered in the 6,000 page 'complete' dossier of Operacion Puerto - only in their hands since this spring, when the case was archived by the Spanish courts -will be at the heart of this new development in the Valverde case.
Valverde never figured on the original list of implicated riders in Puerto, although the presence of a blood bag with the initals Val.Piti was taken in some quarters to be indicative of a possible link.
That wasn't the case, though, for the Spanish police investigators, who concluded that there was insufficent evidence to implicate the Caisse D'Epargne rider. So he continued to race.
So far reactions in Spain have tended to be of cautious support for the rider. Caisse D'Epargne boss Jose Miguel Echavarri commented “it's surprising that now they [the UCI] see something that's never been seen before. Why now?”
“Our World's team is crippled by this.” Spanish National Federation road coach Francisco Antequera added. “We've still got Oscar Freire, but I had counted on Valverde as well.”
Last year, the government run Spanish Sports Council - responsible for handling doping cases in Spain - and the Spanish Cycling Federation denied that Valverde was implicated. Now they will have to re-investigate the case all over again, hopefully to resolve the situation one way or the other once and for all..
and for those of you intrested in the tecchy side of cycling
Japanese component manufacturer Shimano is introducing a new carbon-fibre and aluminium Dura-Ace crankset in the spring. Currently, Dura-Ace features aluminium alloy cranks in the existing FC-7800 model.
The new crankset - given the name FC-7800C - has an aluminium core wrapped with carbon-fibre, which the company claims gives it 'light weight yet very rigid construction', which doesn't sound like a far-fetched expectation. It also says that the carbon version is 10 per cent stiffer than the existing all-aluminium model.
The crankset utilises Shimano's existing integrated bottom bracket technology, and uses the same bottom bracket cups as the FC-7800.
It will be available with either 53/39 or 52/39 rings, and in 170, 172.5 and 175mm crank lengths. Weight is quoted as 709g including bottom bracket.
Prototype versions of the crankset could be found on the 2007 Tour de France bikes of Michael Boogerd (Rabobank) and Markus Fothen (Gerolsteiner). Both riders are reported to have been impressed with its performance in the Tour. During development, Shimano opted against an all-carbon crankset as it felt the material didn't offer enough rigidity on its own
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Posted on 31-08-2007 14:56
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Britain's Bradley Wiggins has won this morning's time trial in the Tour du Poitou Charentes et de la Vienne in France. The Cofidis pro blitzed the field to take the 20km stage on a circuit based around Jaunay Clann.
This is Wiggins' third pro win this season, after winning the Four Days of Dunkirk opening time trial and the Dauphine Libere prologue in June. In addition to those wins, Wiggins placed fourth in the Tour de France prologue on London in July and second in the Circuit de la Sarthe TT stage in April.
Today's result bodes well for Wiggins' World Championship Time Trial hopes, and it shows that he has held on to his form despite having competed little since his team were withdrawn from the Tour de France due to team-member Cristian Moreni's positive dope test result.
Frenchman Thomas Voeckler (Bougyues Telecom) leads the Tour du Poitou Charentes overall after four stages, with the final 105.8km stage taking place this afternoon.
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Posted on 31-08-2007 14:59
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GO WIGGINS!!
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Posted on 31-08-2007 15:00
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That only proves that Wiggins is only good in TT
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