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| ruben |
Posted on 28-09-2007 12:04
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Niels Scheuneman has quit cycling at the age of 23. He said that cycling was 'not his world'. A waist of talent, he never accomplished anything at the pro's, while being most impressive in the younger categories:
-Silver medal junior road race
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-Sillver medail espoirs time trial
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 28-09-2007 12:10
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Sad but ..you have to aplause this kind of action. Brave anouncment after succesful junior age.
This want first time..when promising youngsters quit. |
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 28-09-2007 14:16
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Seems like McQuaid has gone nuts now. ASO has asked the French federation to help them in the fight against UCI. If they accept that, UCI will sanction the French federation, and the sanctions will be that they won't be allowed to take part in the Olympics  |
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| Setzel |
Posted on 28-09-2007 14:21
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Same shit like last year fighting like dogs a stupid war !
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 28-09-2007 15:13
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What do French riders have to do with French federation officials ?
Taking the wrong people as hostages, once more...  |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 28-09-2007 15:25
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really, someone needs to promote a peace conference:
get McQuaid, Clerc and the other ASO guy whose name escapes me in the same room to settle their differences. then nuke the place...
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 28-09-2007 16:13
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I dont see there possible solution...On of them should dissapear or back off foe good |
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| stemple |
Posted on 28-09-2007 16:20
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I think that if the pro tour teams took a united stand and boycotted all ASO races, the ASO would eventually cave. It might take a year or more, but if they were united, i think they would win out.
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 28-09-2007 16:35
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Why would you want that ? To get a mighty Pro Tour, will all teams happily participating in Qingai Lake Tour, Poland Tour, and Eindhoven TTT, whereas the TDF would be ridden anonymously by amateur teams ?
I don't see the point in wishing ASO disappearing.
UCI should understand cycling is not basket ball, they can't create a NBA-like league from the existing (pre-2005) cycling without thinking about it more than they did. |
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| stemple |
Posted on 28-09-2007 18:00
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Aquarius wrote:
Why would you want that ? To get a mighty Pro Tour, will all teams happily participating in Qingai Lake Tour, Poland Tour, and Eindhoven TTT, whereas the TDF would be ridden anonymously by amateur teams ?
I don't see the point in wishing ASO disappearing.
UCI should understand cycling is not basket ball, they can't create a NBA-like league from the existing (pre-2005) cycling without thinking about it more than they did.
I wouldn't want the TDF to be ridden by rubbish teams, but neither would anyone else and that is why the ASO would have to give in. It comes down to which one you think is more important. The riders or the races. I come down on the sides of the riders. I feel that they make the race, not the other way around, and that is why the Tour and the others races need the best riders in their races. Without those races you would others races take their place, but without the riders would you still have the races. I doubt it because without the best riders in their races they would eventually lose sponsers and coverage and they would fall to the way side. That is why they need the best riders in their races.
Don't get me wrong i would like to see the best riders in the best races, but i feel the riders are the most important thing in the equation. But this is only just my opinion.
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| issoisso |
Posted on 28-09-2007 18:25
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Aquarius wrote:
UCI should understand cycling is not basket ball, they can't create a NBA-like league from the existing (pre-2005) cycling without thinking about it more than they did.
completely agreed, of course. however, you're totally missing the point:
Aquarius wrote:
Why would you want that ? To get a mighty Pro Tour, will all teams happily participating in Qingai Lake Tour, Poland Tour, and Eindhoven TTT, whereas the TDF would be ridden anonymously by amateur teams ?
I don't see the point in wishing ASO disappearing.
ASO wants power. that's all this is. if you think they'll stop here and be satisfied with this, you are very much mistaken. and that is the problem. they want to control all and everything.
Edited by issoisso on 28-09-2007 19:08
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 28-09-2007 20:28
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What more would they control ? And how would it affect cycling ? That's what I can't see, thus what I can't fear.
If you're fearing to get 15 French pro teams starting ASO races (TDF, Liège Bastogne Liège, etc.), and a couple of rubbish foreign team, that's just unrealistic.
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| issoisso |
Posted on 28-09-2007 20:32
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Aquarius wrote:
What more would they control ? And how would it affect cycling ? That's what I can't see, thus what I can't fear.
If you're fearing to get 15 French pro teams starting ASO races (TDF, Liège Bastogne Liège, etc.), and a couple of rubbish foreign team, that's just unrealistic.
more races. they've been in negotiations in the past, and they will be again in the near future. they want to organise other races themselves. the ideal situation for them, however unrealistic, would be to control all important races. therefore deciding who gets to participate.
right now what they're doing is favoring the traditional markets. which is where their share is. they're stunting the growth of the sport for the sake of a profit. which, granted, is supposed to be their goal, since they're a profit-oriented organisation.
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 28-09-2007 20:44
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Their goal is profit, yes maybe, but I still don't see how it's harming cycling ? That doesn't concern riders, does it ?
Pro Tour is also a way to bring money (through sponsors assured to be part in big races every year) in cycling, so UCI is searching profit as well.
I still don't get the point, what would/could be wrong (realistically) even if ASO was organising all the races ? |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 28-09-2007 20:49
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Aquarius wrote:
I still don't get the point, what would/could be wrong (realistically) even if ASO was organising all the races ?
all the races would stay exactly in the countries they are in. no expansion. every sport that did that fell through the trap door. such stagnation is the perfect way for ratings to drop through the floor. traditionalism will get you nowhere.
as for inviting french teams, that's a minor point. yes, before the ProTour, at least two french teams that did nothing all season were invited every year just because they were french. but that was just the tour, so no big deal as far as I'm concerned.
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| Setzel |
Posted on 28-09-2007 20:52
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I am concerned about that if you invite 2 french team inivte two that ha ve a good rider in in it if not dont fkin bohtered to call them just to be there it's boring !!! to see them always last in every stage
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 29-09-2007 17:41
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The lab which tested Rasmussen's samples for dynepo has said they have had 10 positive samples of dynepo. |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 29-09-2007 17:53
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CrueTrue wrote:
The lab which tested Rasmussen's samples for dynepo has said they have had 10 positive samples of dynepo.
yeah, McQuaid had said that. he also said they were supposed to be a secret and that he is disappointed this was leaked.
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| Levi4life |
Posted on 29-09-2007 20:38
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issoisso wrote:
CrueTrue wrote:
The lab which tested Rasmussen's samples for dynepo has said they have had 10 positive samples of dynepo.
yeah, McQuaid had said that. he also said they were supposed to be a secret and that he is disappointed this was leaked.
Now THAT is professionalism.
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| Setzel |
Posted on 29-09-2007 20:41
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Levi4life wrote:
issoisso wrote:
CrueTrue wrote:
The lab which tested Rasmussen's samples for dynepo has said they have had 10 positive samples of dynepo.
yeah, McQuaid had said that. he also said they were supposed to be a secret and that he is disappointed this was leaked.
Now THAT is professionalism.
You still think Landis is clean ?
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