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issoisso
CrueTrue wrote:
- National teams might be allowed to start in Le Tour (Shock)


you've been on vacation, so:

ASO has been pitching that idea for days now. nobody really wants it. it would mean a boost for cycling in 3/4 countries and the opposite everywhere else.
Edited by issoisso on 30-07-2007 18:11
 
Addy291
i don't understand how it would work anyway

would there be a lot more teams in the Tour, would these national teams, replace wildcards etc.

or would it just be national teams on their own, any of the ways i think it is a bad ideaFrown
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issoisso
Addy291 wrote:
i don't understand how it would work anyway

would there be a lot more teams in the Tour, would these national teams, replace wildcards etc.

or would it just be national teams on their own, any of the ways i think it is a bad ideaFrown


the idea is that instead of the regular sponsored teams, there would be, for instance, the italian national team. or the spanish national team.

the positive points

- fans would identify themselves with "their" team unlike now when most identify themselves with one single rider;

- supposedly it's a deterrent against doping because if anyone were to be caught it would be to huge shame of the country and not just "some team". in reality, the athletes dope in the olympics and such, where national teams compete;

the negative points

- less exposure for "sponsored" teams, therefore less sponsors coming into cycling;

- the teams would have to cooperate. all of a sudden Valverde and Contador in the same team for the Tour? yeah, right...as if that is going to turn out nicely. etc.;

-only a few countries would be able to field full teams. we would have the "Luxembourg/Switzerland/Britain team", for example.
 
SportingNonsense
National teams is a bad idea for the tour. I hope it doesnt happen.
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CrueTrue
What I read today was that the idea was to have a mix of national teams and sponsored teams.
 
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issoisso
CrueTrue wrote:
What I read today was that the idea was to have a mix of national teams and sponsored teams.


that's not what Patrice Clerc was pitching a few days ago...

I'm not saying it isn't what he's on about now though.
 
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Crommy
Plus less money in the sport due to a lack of sponsors, even further domination by some countries, and a dent into inter-racial links.

But apart from, seems fine to me Grin
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issoisso
Crommy wrote:
Plus less money in the sport due to a lack of sponsors, even further domination by some countries, and a dent into inter-racial links.

But apart from, seems fine to me Grin


inter-racial links? how many non-white riders are there now? Wink
 
Crommy
Inter-racial means: "Links between a group of people united or classified together on the basis of common history, nationality, or geographic distribution: the German race."

Sorry for not being so clear, that's what I was aiming at. If we had a just French team or just German team, I would be angry if we Brits lost to them Wink
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Addy291
i would be appalledPfft
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issoisso
I'd be confused. I'd want every single team to lose at the same time Frown
 
Addy291
Portugal might be able to scrape a team
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issoisso
Addy291 wrote:
Portugal might be able to scrape a team


yeah, right...and Pigs walk on ceillings Pfft
 
Addy291
you have Paulinho and...erm that other guy...seePfft
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issoisso
Addy291 wrote:
you have Paulinho and...erm that other guy...seePfft


considering the amount grand tour stage wins England have, I'd shut up if I were you Pfft

EDIT: besides, I'm happy to be watching out national tour that is about to start with an enormous amount of possible contenders, including guys from ProTour teams and all the top Continental ones Smile
Edited by issoisso on 30-07-2007 18:59
 
Addy291
we get top ProTour guys at the Tour of BritainB)
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issoisso
Addy291 wrote:
we get top ProTour guys at the Tour of BritainB)


I see...we get Koldo Gil and Damiano Cunego...

but I couldn't care less about that. all I want is close racing. which fortunately is practically guaranteed Smile

especially with a TT on the last day.
 
Addy291
the nearest i get is Sheffield which is about 1hr away, but when i stay with my grandma and grandad in Spain, a tour goes up their road, so all you have to do is walk to the end of the road

it gets all the Spanish riders like Mayo, Valverde etc. as it is in a valley
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issoisso
Addy291 wrote:
the nearest i get is Sheffield which is about 1hr away, but when i stay with my grandma and grandad in Spain, a tour goes up their road, so all you have to do is walk to the end of the road

it gets all the Spanish riders like Mayo, Valverde etc. as it is in a valley


cool Smile

all I got was a stage of the Volta going past my street last year. no emotion, though. it was about 2km after the start of the stage...
 
Addy291
yes but i've only ever seen that race once as i have only been over there at the same time as the race once

at least you get to see some racing, you can hardly call the tour of britain racing, unless the big names that occasionally come actually try, last year Boonen did nothing at all apart from the last stage, he tried on one stage but completley messed his sprint upGrinGrin

many riders are put off it because everyone says it is the most dangerous bike race in the world, as all the cars are on the road, no roads are closed fully etc

but this isn't really July news, so i apologize for thatWink
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