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| doddy13 |
Posted on 10-06-2007 16:34
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What about Francais des Juex. Isn't that gambling.
The ASO just want to make a stand against the UCI. If they don't like the way the UCI works then quit the pro tour. The TDF etc. will still be great races without the Pro Tour. |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 10-06-2007 16:36
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doddy13 wrote:
What about Francais des Juex. Isn't that gambling.
The ASO just want to make a stand against the UCI. If they don't like the way the UCI works then quit the pro tour. The TDF etc. will still be great races without the Pro Tour.
french law states there can only be a certain number of gambling houses in france. either 2 or 3, can't remember. that law even states which companies those are.
FDJ is one of them.
by the way, that law is from the mid-1800s 
sakai5 wrote:
There is a battle of powers in cycling. UCI vs ASO, and Unibet.com is unfortunately in the middle.
UCI imposed Pro Tour league. And ASO look it as a threat, because all Pro Tour teams are allow to participate in the big events and these event organizers must accept them.
I think this have an advantage because teams turn to be more profissional and sponsors extend the contracts because the big initial investement.
However as you saw in Giro there were some teams that were just walking because it wasn't for their major interest. (this is the point of the ASO)
Conclusion: Who has the right to choose the participants?
I agree on both points, but the thing is that ASO above all wants the power to say "we choose who participates. if we don't like a team, we won't invite them and they'll never be big"
before the protour, every year 2 or 3 FRENCH teams would be invited to the Tour that would make everyone go "what the f***????"
then those teams would get big sponsor contracts because they participated in the tour, and the french just kept helping each other.
it would be the equivalent of Auber 93 being invited for this year's tour.
Edited by issoisso on 10-06-2007 16:39
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 10-06-2007 16:41
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But if we look Giro. Great team choises was made...Why the hell we need Bouygues telecom in grand tour...Even ASO has to admit this (who cares it's about french team) |
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| doddy13 |
Posted on 10-06-2007 16:57
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Thats the thing. The Giro did make great choices, but the ASO want to help French teams get into the pro tour.
As most of us know 95% of the time when a french time is invited we don't even see them on the TV, so why invite them. |
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 10-06-2007 17:00
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Yes its my point ...if they wanna play fear then its thrue the end. Now they looks like and talk like hypocrits. |
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| doddy13 |
Posted on 10-06-2007 18:54
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To be honest, some French are great riders. However France isn't the only nation with good riders. |
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| Karl_rab |
Posted on 10-06-2007 18:57
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Isnt barloworld one of the wildcards this year and there not french? |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 10-06-2007 19:07
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Karl_rab wrote:
Isnt barloworld one of the wildcards this year and there not french?
yes, but if they could freely choose whichever teams they wanted, they'd choose a few french teams that no-one would even think of choosing.
this way, only choosing a few, they choose the bigger ones.
Agritubel, though has been chosen.
there are arguably better teams, but it's a perfectly acceptable decision
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| Karl_rab |
Posted on 10-06-2007 19:12
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Should have chosen liberty seguras (i think thats how there spelt). they did well last time they entered. |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 10-06-2007 19:24
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Karl_rab wrote:
Should have chosen liberty seguras (i think thats how there spelt). they did well last time they entered.
 are you sure?
Liberty Seguros is a very small portuguese team (the biggest portuguese one, but small in the big scheme of things) that has never entered the Tour
don't you mean another team?
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| Addy291 |
Posted on 10-06-2007 20:13
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maybe he means Astana
they used to be called liberty seguros |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 10-06-2007 20:16
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Addy291 wrote:
maybe he means Astana
they used to be called liberty seguros
that's what I think he might mean. Astana are invited.
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| Karl_rab |
Posted on 10-06-2007 20:19
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The team i was thinking of had a few good riders and they had a dark blue jersey. dont know if that helps? |
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| Addy291 |
Posted on 10-06-2007 20:20
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sounds like the old Astana team to me
did Allan Davis ride for them |
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 10-06-2007 20:21
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Yes, Liberty Seguros. They are now known as Astana. |
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| Addy291 |
Posted on 10-06-2007 20:22
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we thought so |
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| Karl_rab |
Posted on 10-06-2007 20:29
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Glad that cleared everything up. I think the two thingy's (ASO and USI) need to work together to try and get cyclings reputation back, (just clear everyone who took doping and put them on exstreme caution) then just dont tell anyone and everything is a ok.  |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 11-06-2007 15:32
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Karl_rab wrote:
Glad that cleared everything up. I think the two thingy's (ASO and USI) need to work together to try and get cyclings reputation back, (just clear everyone who took doping and put them on exstreme caution) then just dont tell anyone and everything is a ok.
they're meeting this week, and accoding to Gerolsteiner manager Holczer: "something big will happen"
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 15-06-2007 18:09
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Ivan Basso has received a 24 month ban. That means he will be out until the 28th of October, 2008. |
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 15-06-2007 18:13
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But thats only 16 months!
And about 17 months since his previous race.
Oh well, unlike Millar his career will be ruined, id have thought. |
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