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| Smoothie |
Posted on 20-06-2007 18:40
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I have to say because im british i think Cavendish is a bit better overall, has Dekker been a world champ? |
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Posted on 20-06-2007 18:43
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Smoothie wrote:
I have to say because im british i think Cavendish is a bit better overall, has Dekker been a world champ? I disagree, track racing is a completely different sport. 
Dekker is a far bigger talent then Cavendish, aside from that they're competely different type's of riders |
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Posted on 20-06-2007 18:44
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SportingNonsense wrote:
Although, you cant really compare a sprinter with a climber for stage race wins. For actual ProTour stage wins its 2-2, I believe. Dekker did probably beat stronger opposition though.
well cavendish did beat robbie mcewen in scheldeprijs vlaanderen
that ought to count
you can't really say who the better talent is
because cavendish is a sprinter and dekker is a classic/stage race rider
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Posted on 20-06-2007 18:46
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i think they are both big talents (but Dekker has had a bigger expectation of him), but i agree that track and road racing are completly different, and yes they are different types of riders so it is hard to compare them really |
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Posted on 20-06-2007 18:46
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Ruben wrote:
Smoothie wrote:
I have to say because im british i think Cavendish is a bit better overall, has Dekker been a world champ? I disagree, track racing is a completely different sport.
Dekker is a far bigger talent then Cavendish, aside from that they're competely different type's of riders
Exactly Cavendish is more classy in sprints and classics/flat stuff and Dekker more in Hilly and Time Trial, I like them almost the same but because Cavendish is British i like him that bit more |
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Posted on 20-06-2007 18:46
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Pro Tour stage race wins, not stage wins...
If we add then it's 4-2 for Dekker, because apart from the Gc he also won the time trial in Romandie and in his 1st year (as 20 year old mind you!) he won the Climb TT in the Tour of Poland. |
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Posted on 20-06-2007 18:47
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As Ruben says theyre different types of riders so you cant really judge them.
Cavendish is by far the most promisng 22 year old sprinter and its between Dekker and Andy Schleck for most promising 22 year old climber + stage racer. I personally prefer Schleck.
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Posted on 20-06-2007 18:48
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litllemagnum wrote:
SportingNonsense wrote:
Although, you cant really compare a sprinter with a climber for stage race wins. For actual ProTour stage wins its 2-2, I believe. Dekker did probably beat stronger opposition though.
well cavendish did beat robbie mcewen in scheldeprijs vlaanderen
that ought to count
you can't really say who the better talent is
because cavendish is a sprinter and dekker is a classic/stage race rider stage race riders are generally considered bigger riders...
Or do you think Mario Cipollini was a better rider than Lance Armstrong? Or even 1-tour winners like Pantani, Ullrich..?
Edit: however, Cavendish is the best sprinting talent in recent years.
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Posted on 20-06-2007 18:48
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my opinion is that the future of sprinting are cavendish and weylandt |
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Posted on 20-06-2007 18:49
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litllemagnum wrote:
my opinion is that the future of sprinting are cavendish and weylandt I would say Cavendish and his team mate Ciolek |
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Posted on 20-06-2007 18:50
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Cavendish will get more wins because there is more flat then hilly stuff and Dekker will get more glory becasue he is riding in harder stuff.
Thats my view anyway. |
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Posted on 20-06-2007 18:50
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oops i forgot ciolek |
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Posted on 20-06-2007 18:51
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Ciolek hasnt set the world on fire this year i was expecting more. |
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Posted on 20-06-2007 19:05
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Ruben wrote:
gardner wrote:
Yeah Dekker sucks. Excuses and excuses....... Name any 22 year old who has won 2 pro tour stage races already in his career B)
I must have been drunk when i wrote that
To be honest i Consider Dekker one of the biggest talents the cycling scene has seen in many years.
Hope he lives up to expectations and dont stop progressing...... |
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| Smoothie |
Posted on 20-06-2007 19:11
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Wounder if he will win Tour de france? |
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Posted on 20-06-2007 19:24
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you can never judge how much someone will progress. he certainly might win. but you can only judge retroactively.
remember Vandenbroucke? everyone was sure he'd dominate the classics for many years. did that happen?
the same thing can happen to Boonen, yet I bet no-one now can imagine Boonen being known in the future as just another Vandenbroucke
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| Smoothie |
Posted on 20-06-2007 19:44
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I have th feeling though that he might not be able to climbs mountains as well as some as the big guys. |
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| ruben |
Posted on 20-06-2007 20:33
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In Romandie he had no trouble climbing.... and that was 3 HC climbs, the same as here. He would've won that mountain stage too if Igor Anton didn't sprint like an idiot (diverted off his line) ... |
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| Smoothie |
Posted on 20-06-2007 20:42
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Ruben wrote:
In Romandie he had no trouble climbing.... and that was 3 HC climbs, the same as here. He would've won that mountain stage too if Igor Anton didn't sprint like an idiot (diverted off his line) ...
Hahaha LOL, theres no dought he can climb but can he CLIMB if you know what i mean  |
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| ruben |
Posted on 20-06-2007 21:06
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well he's still 22, still plenty of time for progression |
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