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Vino has tested positive
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| issoisso |
Posted on 25-07-2007 21:13
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yeah, I read. then he threw in a little joke about his father being a drunk...
who cares about him. he was caught and his career is now over. thank goodness. |
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 25-07-2007 21:14
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Crommy wrote:
Vinokourov told the French sports daily L'Equipe in Wednesday's edition that he had not cheated. "It's a mistake. I never doped, that's not the way I see my profession," the newspaper quoted him as saying. "I think it's a mistake in part due to my crash. I have spoken to the team doctors who had a hypothesis that there was an enormous amount of blood in my thighs, which could have led to my positive test."
Vinokourov claimed to be the victim of a "provocation." "It's been going on for months and today they're managing to demolish me," he said. "The setting up of our team made a lot of people jealous and now we're paying the price. It's a shame to leave the Tour this way, but I don't want to waste time in proving my innocence."
Good luck for him...we have to applaud for him. And welkome to the Floyd club who still proving that he is innocent. |
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Posted on 25-07-2007 21:16
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but I don't want to waste time in proving my innocence."
As there is no innocence to prove - it would be a big waste of time 
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| issoisso |
Posted on 25-07-2007 21:18
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Crommy wrote:
Crommy wrote:
but I don't want to waste time in proving my innocence."
As there is no innocence to prove - it would be a big waste of time
notice this: the kazakhstani national television refuse to break the news to the country. as far as everyone there is concerned, the Tour will misteriously stop being broadcasted. today they re-ran Vino's last stage win...... |
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 25-07-2007 21:20
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issoisso wrote:
notice this: the kazakhstani national television refuse to break the news to the country. as far as everyone there is concerned, the Tour will misteriously stop being broadcasted. today they re-ran Vino's last stage win......
I'm not surprised for that in Borat country and "Bandage" team homeland. |
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| Crommy |
Posted on 25-07-2007 21:20
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How ridiculous 
If Brown tried that here, he'd be out of power before you he could say "I'm better than Blair" 
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 25-07-2007 21:22
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How ridiculous
If Brown tried that here, he'd be out of power before you he could say "I'm better than Blair"
You questioning my knowledge about Kasahstan? (sarcasm test   )
Edited by Guido Mukk on 25-07-2007 21:24
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| issoisso |
Posted on 25-07-2007 21:25
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Guido Mukk wrote:
Crommy wrote:
How ridiculous
If Brown tried that here, he'd be out of power before you he could say "I'm better than Blair"
You questioning my knowledge about Kasahstan?
when he wrote that he hadn't read your post yet. he was talking about the kazakhstani TV not broadcasting anymore...
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(sarcasm test )
you got me
Edited by issoisso on 25-07-2007 21:25
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| Crommy |
Posted on 25-07-2007 21:25
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No, I was replying to issoisso, and was stating how ridiculous it was for them to just ignore the doping and the rest of the Tour - you were just too quick for me in replying - sorry
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| issoisso |
Posted on 25-07-2007 21:26
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No, I was replying to issoisso, and was stating how ridiculous it was for them to just ignore the doping and the rest of the Tour - you were just too quick for me in replying - sorry
and he got you too 
anyway....wacky kazakhstanis...who names a country kazakhstan anyway?? it's too complicated to write |
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Posted on 25-07-2007 21:30
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It's not been a good night for me - I'm getting slow, my use and detection of sarcasm has just disappeared and my pcm has decided working is no longer for it - I'll just slink off to bed, and hope tomorrow brings some improvement.
And if someone gets another post in before me, with sarcasm that I don't get, then I'm going to go crazy
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Posted on 25-07-2007 21:31
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Did you know...that Borat movie was censored in Kasahstan..also in his big brother Russia. Isnt this another sign (first - tour is on Vino doing well) of hypocrisy. |
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Posted on 25-07-2007 21:45
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Crommy wrote:
It's not been a good night for me - I'm getting slow, my use and detection of sarcasm has just disappeared and my pcm has decided working is no longer for it - I'll just slink off to bed, and hope tomorrow brings some improvement.
And if someone gets another post in before me, with sarcasm that I don't get, then I'm going to go crazy
However, there is a bright side to today for me - I just beat Holland at cricket (and yes, not on some bloody game, in real life. And no, not the actual team, but their U15s )
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| issoisso |
Posted on 25-07-2007 21:49
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Crommy wrote:
Crommy wrote:
It's not been a good night for me - I'm getting slow, my use and detection of sarcasm has just disappeared and my pcm has decided working is no longer for it - I'll just slink off to bed, and hope tomorrow brings some improvement.
And if someone gets another post in before me, with sarcasm that I don't get, then I'm going to go crazy
However, there is a bright side to today for me - I just beat Holland at cricket (and yes, not on some bloody game, in real life. And no, not the actual team, but their U15s )
great!! a wonderful victory in a game that the whole world cares about!! (Crommy goes crazy in 3....2....1.....) |
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Posted on 25-07-2007 21:50
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AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted on 25-07-2007 21:53
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AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
sorry, I couldn't resist the "who cares about cricket" punch |
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Posted on 25-07-2007 23:54
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issoisso wrote:
Crommy wrote:
AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
sorry, I couldn't resist the "who cares about cricket" punch
Counterpunch coming up : https://en.wikiped...l_members. .
on topic though, i'm still trying to comprehend this Rasmussen thing. Why would Rabobank do what they have done at a time when the press are having a field day over doping cheats?. That's just going to tar Rabobank and Rasmussen with the same negative press regarding cheating.
Surely they could suspend him after the tour, especially too since the team has worked so hard for him, sacrificing their own podium chances for him.
Politically for Rabobank I can't help wonder why right now, it's like a low blow to the whole Team, having wasted their efforts. What benefit could it possibly have? |
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Posted on 25-07-2007 23:55
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vergadain wrote:
issoisso wrote:
Crommy wrote:
AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
sorry, I couldn't resist the "who cares about cricket" punch
Counterpunch coming up : https://en.wikiped...l_members. .
on topic though, i'm still trying to comprehend this Rasmussen thing. Why would Rabobank do what they have done at a time when the press are having a field day over doping cheats?. That's just going to tar Rabobank and Rasmussen with the same negative press regarding cheating.
Surely they could suspend him after the tour, especially too since the team has worked so hard for him, sacrificing their own podium chances for him.
Politically for Rabobank I can't help wonder why right now, it's like a low blow to the whole Team, having wasted their efforts. What benefit could it possibly have?
word going around is that Bruyneel threatened legal action on Rabobank if they didn't do this. typical Bruyneel. |
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Posted on 26-07-2007 18:45
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Rider reactions to the doping:
Jens Voigt
Jens Voigt is sick and tired of his doping colleagues. "I am fed up with this. They make our life difficult and complicated. Through their obvious stupidity, they risk the existence of the teams, including soigneurs, mechanics, bus drivers and so on."
The CSC rider opposed suggestions that the Tour be ended early. "That would mean that the good guys have given up and the bad guys have won. I don't want that. That would be the wrong signal."
Good on you Jens, a beacon for other riders to follow
Michael Boogerd
"To ride for four more days in the Tour for nobody? I won't do that," he said, according to Sporza. "I don't know what I should think of all this. I want to go home immediately.
I feel so sorry for him - 17 stages of pain and suffering...for nothing, all in his final season 
Armstrong, who seems to be condoning doping:
Armstrong
The outspoken American compared the Vinokourov case to the one of Tyler Hamilton, adding that "it doesn't make sense. Why would someone take the risk and make the same mistake?"
So using a dope that is less risky and has been used by other riders who've got away with it is perfectly fine Lance?
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 26-07-2007 18:54
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Good reading..i have exatly same reactions has you got there. I admire Voigt..feel sry for Boogie last tour..and mr. teflon should shut up..if subject is doping |
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