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CrueTrue
Nobody remembers "the loser" Wink
 
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issoisso
I remember staring incredulously at the TV when he came second in a mass sprint at the Tour, thinking "how's this possible?"

EDIT: just saw alex's post
Edited by issoisso on 19-06-2007 23:29
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"I love him, I think he's great. He's transformed the sport in so many ways. Every person in cycling has benefitted from Lance Armstrong, perhaps not financially but in some sense" - Bradley Wiggins on Lance Armstrong
 
alex153
Of course they doWink
 
gotlandrules
Is Lovkvist participating in Tour de Suisse? if he is, how did he do last stage?
 
alex153
I think he was 38th or something...........Larsson was 24th
 
gotlandrules
Larsson was better than Lovkvist in the mountains? oh god... no white yerseay for gotland this year Pfft
 
alex153
I dunno, looks like he doesn't want to waste energy.......like Vino, Klöden and so on
 
gotlandrules
Lets hope so... atleast top25 in TdF should be possible this year... and maybe a podium in the -25...
 
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alex153
Don't think he will do that good........but top 40 and top 5 in u-25 should be possible.Wink
 
gotlandrules
well yeah maybe.... nice riding by Larsson though... 24th in the mountains... could go for a top 3 in the ITT Smile
 
alex153
He looks like he has improved greatly in climbing......probably means that he has lost some weight and therefore does worse TT's, but we can always hopeSmile
 
gotlandrules
yeah, you can allways hope that he's just become a bettre climber, without loosing weight Wink would be nice Grin
 
alex153
indeedB)
 
ruben
SportingNonsense wrote:
Preparing or not, 20 minutes is a lot for the so-called "great" rider Dekker.

People were doubting Vino when he lost 10 minutes, so surely Dekker should be doubted.
You are a complete moron who has simply no clue what he's talking about. Have you even followed the news?

The guy didn't have any decent training due to his hip injury which has been plagueing him since the Tour of Basque (begin April). Yet, even with that injury, he managed to win the Tour de Romandie, because he really wanted to prove himself. However, that made the injruy even worse. He trained on/off for the past month.. few days training, pain... few days rest.. then finally they got him examined and now he's hip is fine.
But honoustly, with the condition he's starting here you can't possibly say he should be doubted. He's here to GAIN condition... so back off.

Oh and another thing you possibly completely missed, today he said he didn't force himself. If he would he would probably ride top 35 or something like that. But what's the use of it? Why would he ride himself to smithereens for a top 35 when he still has to gain condition... Same goes for Boogerd who had a severe knee injury

Please, shut up if you don't know what you're talking about. I don't like ignorant people who have a big mouth and critise all riders where they have no clue what has been going on.

Easy to criticize from your seat, go bike yourself with an irritated hip for 2 months and see if you can still win the Tour of Romandie, attack in LBL and Fleche Wallone and finish 12th in AGR.

Oh and believe me, I DO know what I'm talking about because I'm in close contact with the guy...
 
alex153
Calm down RubenWink


We all know he is a great talent
 
ruben
It isn't about that. I'm just fed up with people cricising with no idea of what's going on

when I don't train for a week I'm already in horrible shape... imagine TD. This is his very basic level on which he is riding. You can't expect him to do top 10 with no good training at all...

I hope Sporting Nonsense (maybe the last part of his name explains much) get's an injury while sporting, then has to do nothing for a month and then let him do something very very hard. I bet he would give up instantly
 
Levi4life
Ruben wrote:
SportingNonsense wrote:
Preparing or not, 20 minutes is a lot for the so-called "great" rider Dekker.

People were doubting Vino when he lost 10 minutes, so surely Dekker should be doubted.
You are a complete moron who has simply no clue what he's talking about. Have you even followed the news?

The guy didn't have any decent training due to his hip injury which has been plagueing him since the Tour of Basque (begin April). Yet, even with that injury, he managed to win the Tour de Romandie, because he really wanted to prove himself. However, that made the injruy even worse. He trained on/off for the past month.. few days training, pain... few days rest.. then finally they got him examined and now he's hip is fine.
But honoustly, with the condition he's starting here you can't possibly say he should be doubted. He's here to GAIN condition... so back off.

Oh and another thing you possibly completely missed, today he said he didn't force himself. If he would he would probably ride top 35 or something like that. But what's the use of it? Why would he ride himself to smithereens for a top 35 when he still has to gain condition... Same goes for Boogerd who had a severe knee injury

Please, shut up if you don't know what you're talking about. I don't like ignorant people who have a big mouth and critise all riders where they have no clue what has been going on.

Easy to criticize from your seat, go bike yourself with an irritated hip for 2 months and see if you can still win the Tour of Romandie, attack in LBL and Fleche Wallone and finish 12th in AGR.

Oh and believe me, I DO know what I'm talking about because I'm in close contact with the guy...


I think Ruben is correct. Not even the biggest talents can win every single day they race if they are suffering from injury. I think we all need to step back and think about the dedication that these athletes put into the sport and the suffering they go through and give them the benefit of the doubt.
 
Boasson Hagen Jr
@Ruben: So Sportingnonsense dont read the news nor is he close to Dekker as far as I know. So what?

He still have the right to state his meanings without being criticised and assulted by people like you!



btw, Hushovd is my father=)
 
ruben
Boasson Hagen Jr wrote:
@Ruben: So Sportingnonsense dont read the news nor is he close to Dekker as far as I know. So what?

He still have the right to state his meanings without being criticised and assulted by people like you!



btw, Hushovd is my father=)
No he doesn't have the right to unrightfully critise riders without any sense

If we would all do that the cycling topic would be a big piece of crap.
 
ruben
Oh, and I am actually close to Dekker, I'm the editor of his official website, you fool...
 
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