Kalach wrote:
Still not sure why Vingegard is claiming that 3week suits him better.
firefighting maybe? he has to explain why he is losing every 1vs1 (except Marie Blanque)
It is a new tour completely, so whatever he says he have to prove it first.
But you can't deny the fact that last year he lost every battle to Pog until they hit the higher mountains on stage 11 to Col du Granon. So he can make a case that he was better later in the tour and in the +2000 meter stages. This time he was lucky with Pog's early off day.
If that will be the case again remains to be seen, in many ways Poga seems even stronger this year.
I hope for Janus being a Dane and all that, but Poga is a brilliant rider, no doubt the best rider overall. Lets just hope for a great close race without crash or tech issues , no matter who wins they are both unique, would be a bore if any of them was not in the tour.
Last year it was entirety of Jumbo vs sole Pogačar, UAE had a bunch of donkeys as doms. No chance that will ever happen again and Pogačar is (to anyone with eyes and a brain) much better rider. Pretty sure on that one stage this year his girlfriend got into a crash and there were also reports of himself being a little banged up, and still only lost a minute. I wish people would stop propping up dudes who really arent challengers like Jonas and appreciate the top 2 rider of all time and await the inevitable GOAT confrontation between Pogi and Remco
Now i guess you will get the chance in the Vuelta, to see Remco beat the grab out of “the dudes who really aren’t a challenger”; just like pogi did.
Mainly just posting this to show that your opinions was already quite stubborn long before you shifted into “doping accusations mode”
I made my doping stance clear many times, you are just unable to read sentences and understand what they mean. I wish I was as naive and ignorant to think that elite riders do not dope and that doping agencies are competent.
I will say something that may shatter your world view - Santa isnt real
Edit: if that was your takeaway from this tour I am truly jealous of you, and I am not being patrionising, ignorance is bliss is something I wish I could experience more often
Edited by quadsas on 23-07-2023 18:15
Kalach wrote:
Still not sure why Vingegard is claiming that 3week suits him better.
firefighting maybe? he has to explain why he is losing every 1vs1 (except Marie Blanque)
It is a new tour completely, so whatever he says he have to prove it first.
But you can't deny the fact that last year he lost every battle to Pog until they hit the higher mountains on stage 11 to Col du Granon. So he can make a case that he was better later in the tour and in the +2000 meter stages. This time he was lucky with Pog's early off day.
If that will be the case again remains to be seen, in many ways Poga seems even stronger this year.
I hope for Janus being a Dane and all that, but Poga is a brilliant rider, no doubt the best rider overall. Lets just hope for a great close race without crash or tech issues , no matter who wins they are both unique, would be a bore if any of them was not in the tour.
Last year it was entirety of Jumbo vs sole Pogačar, UAE had a bunch of donkeys as doms. No chance that will ever happen again and Pogačar is (to anyone with eyes and a brain) much better rider. Pretty sure on that one stage this year his girlfriend got into a crash and there were also reports of himself being a little banged up, and still only lost a minute. I wish people would stop propping up dudes who really arent challengers like Jonas and appreciate the top 2 rider of all time and await the inevitable GOAT confrontation between Pogi and Remco
Now i guess you will get the chance in the Vuelta, to see Remco beat the grab out of “the dudes who really aren’t a challenger”; just like pogi did.
Mainly just posting this to show that your opinions was already quite stubborn long before you shifted into “doping accusations mode”
I made my doping stance clear many times, you are just unable to read sentences and understand what they mean. I wish I was as naive and ignorant to think that elite riders do not dope and that doping agencies are competent.
I will say something that may shatter your world view - Santa isnt real
Edit: if that was your takeaway from this tour I am truly jealous of you, and I am not being patrionising, ignorance is bliss is something I wish I could experience more often
For me it is not a matter of doping or not, we don’t know and as a fan it is not up to me to prove if they do or don’t. Other are paid to do that. I just laugh about how you clearly thought pogi would make Jones look like an amateur. In the case of doping the most likely is that they either all do or don’t.
Can’t see any reference to dope in the quote where you have found the two top riders of all time.
Cav's would smashed that finish but daaam Meeus was so good! No small amount of pleasure seeing Philipsen being boxed in by the others to interrupt his rythmn.
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A. Roy
but daaam Meeus was so good! No small amount of pleasure seeing Philipsen being boxed in by the others to interrupt his rythmn.
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