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| issoisso |
Posted on 26-07-2008 11:15
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Ruben wrote:
The differences are already big at point 1. I think there is headwind, and this could make the TT really interesting. The difference could be as much as 2'30 between nr 1 and 2, like in Ullrich/Indurain/Armstrongs old superdays
if there is indeed a headwind, Sastre has literally no chance whatsoever. I am not kidding, with a headwind, it's FAR more likely that I'll win the lottery 5 times in a row than that Sastre will win the Tour.
The wind always plays a big part. Just like last year the wind was coming from the exact direction (tailwind) that gave Contador the Tour. any other direction and the Tour would've been between Evans and Leipheimer.
"Hopefully in 2 years time I might win the Time Trial and be a credible Time Trial winner because I haven't beaten someone by 2 minutes."
- Bradley Wiggins a few years ago
"It's the Time Trial. The race against the truth!" - Phil Liggett, 2003 Vuelta |
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 26-07-2008 11:24
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Lets hope not we gonna have headwind..
This is gonna be close one...Sastre needed just 30 sec. more.
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| Totalrage |
Posted on 26-07-2008 11:25
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issoisso wrote:
whatever happens, it's going to be very close. but I still say Cadel has a 90% chance of being in yellow today.
And I hope he does. For the sake of Australia |
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Posted on 26-07-2008 11:38
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issoisso wrote:
Ruben wrote:
The differences are already big at point 1. I think there is headwind, and this could make the TT really interesting. The difference could be as much as 2'30 between nr 1 and 2, like in Ullrich/Indurain/Armstrongs old superdays
if there is indeed a headwind, Sastre has literally no chance whatsoever. I am not kidding, with a headwind, it's FAR more likely that I'll win the lottery 5 times in a row than that Sastre will win the Tour.
The wind always plays a big part. Just like last year the wind was coming from the exact direction (tailwind) that gave Contador the Tour. any other direction and the Tour would've been between Evans and Leipheimer.
Confirmed now, there is 11km/h, not much, but still, headwind on large parts of the route. And it is expected the wind speed will increase in the afternoon.
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Posted on 26-07-2008 11:39
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Totalrage wrote:
issoisso wrote:
whatever happens, it's going to be very close. but I still say Cadel has a 90% chance of being in yellow today.
And I hope he does. For the sake of Australia
No one can blame an Australian for hoping for Evans 
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Posted on 26-07-2008 11:42
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Vansevenant has won! Unless he finishes outside of the time limit today, he will become a Triple Lanterne Rouge
  
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| issoisso |
Posted on 26-07-2008 11:43
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Ruben wrote:
issoisso wrote:
Ruben wrote:
The differences are already big at point 1. I think there is headwind, and this could make the TT really interesting. The difference could be as much as 2'30 between nr 1 and 2, like in Ullrich/Indurain/Armstrongs old superdays
if there is indeed a headwind, Sastre has literally no chance whatsoever. I am not kidding, with a headwind, it's FAR more likely that I'll win the lottery 5 times in a row than that Sastre will win the Tour.
The wind always plays a big part. Just like last year the wind was coming from the exact direction (tailwind) that gave Contador the Tour. any other direction and the Tour would've been between Evans and Leipheimer.
Confirmed now, there is 11km/h, not much, but still, headwind on large parts of the route. And it is expected the wind speed will increase in the afternoon.
well, that completely kills the suspense.
"Hopefully in 2 years time I might win the Time Trial and be a credible Time Trial winner because I haven't beaten someone by 2 minutes."
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| ruben |
Posted on 26-07-2008 11:47
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Not if Menchov has a superday. Like Leipheimer last year.
Edited by ruben on 26-07-2008 11:47
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| issoisso |
Posted on 26-07-2008 11:48
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Ruben wrote:
Not if Menchov has a superday. Like Leipheimer last year.
you can pray to Shiva, Allah and Jehova all you want. he'd need the best day by any rider ever. not gonna happen.
"Hopefully in 2 years time I might win the Time Trial and be a credible Time Trial winner because I haven't beaten someone by 2 minutes."
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"It's the Time Trial. The race against the truth!" - Phil Liggett, 2003 Vuelta |
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Posted on 26-07-2008 11:52
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Not really, if Evans has a technical problem or buckles under the pressure, and Sastre has his usual bad tt, then it's definately possible.
The chance isn't big, but it's there alright.
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| issoisso |
Posted on 26-07-2008 12:07
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on the other hand...
I don't think the wind will be a factor today. It is just a light breeze. - Danny Pate
"Hopefully in 2 years time I might win the Time Trial and be a credible Time Trial winner because I haven't beaten someone by 2 minutes."
- Bradley Wiggins a few years ago
"It's the Time Trial. The race against the truth!" - Phil Liggett, 2003 Vuelta |
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Posted on 26-07-2008 12:13
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A swiss site made a calculation who could win
http://06.live-ra...2526e8cef3
For non german-speakers (everyone?  )
They took diffrent time trials from 2006 , 2007 and 2008 (not Prologues) into account
TDF 2006 , 2007 and 2008
Vuelta 2007
Dauphine 2007 and 2008
Romandie 2007 and 2008
Basque 2007 and 2008
Tour de Suisse 2007
But only the results of Evans , Menchov , Sastre , Frank Schleck and Kohl
They calculated the "Time loss per KM" (the worst TT wasn´t took into account -> because someone could have a bad day)
Also they made a own calculation of "Weighting the Results" , results of 2008 counts more than 2007 , 2007 counts more than 2006 , also Tour counts more than Vuelta and the lenght counts also more
They also calculated the duels of riders (Menchov against Kohl for example) etc.
And that could be the result :
Top 5 before TT
1. Sastre
2. Schleck + 1:24
3. Kohl + 1:33
4. Evans + 1:34
5. Menchov + 2:39
Result of the TT
1. Evans
2. Menchov + 0:37
3. Sastre + 2:17
4. Schleck + 3:01
5. Kohl + 3:05
Top 5 after TT
1. Evans
2. Sastre + 0:43
3. Menchov + 1:42
4. Schleck + 2:51
5. Kohl + 3:04
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 26-07-2008 12:15
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issoisso wrote:
on the other hand...
I don't think the wind will be a factor today. It is just a light breeze. - Danny Pate
But considering Danny Pate is currently on course, that was said beforehand - how would he know?
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| issoisso |
Posted on 26-07-2008 12:15
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unless Kohl cracks completely, he'll easily beat Schleck
"Hopefully in 2 years time I might win the Time Trial and be a credible Time Trial winner because I haven't beaten someone by 2 minutes."
- Bradley Wiggins a few years ago
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| ruben |
Posted on 26-07-2008 12:28
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Let's hope Evans does a Rasmussen 2005 and falls 6 times
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Posted on 26-07-2008 13:05
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Ruben wrote:
Let's hope Evans does a Rasmussen 2005 and falls 6 times
I don't think Sastre would be happy winning like that. Let's hope it is a great stage and whoever is best on the day wins. The Tour de France is all about who gets to Paris in the shortest time. |
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| Darkphoenix |
Posted on 26-07-2008 13:08
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Ruben wrote:
Let's hope Evans does a Rasmussen 2005 and falls 6 times
Hopefully not.
Us Aussies need atleast one winner, and we just won the rugby so im on a high atm. Lets hope Cadel keeps it going.
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| ruben |
Posted on 26-07-2008 13:09
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After all the bad luck Menchov had, and Sastre being held up by the leader system at CSC for too long, I hope Evans, who literally had everyone riding for him (even kohl closing gaps for him), then I hope Evans has some bad luck too
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| Crazy_Ivan |
Posted on 26-07-2008 13:12
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Cause Evans has been swimming in good luck? |
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| Smoothie |
Posted on 26-07-2008 13:18
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You Aussies win everything! Let someone else have it  |
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