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[PT] Team Festina-Dexia (2017)
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sammyt93 wrote:
I was a little surprised that you didn't wait for the 24 hour period to be over before posting the sale thread for him, it does seem like an oversight I would never have expected you to make considering how good you are at creating deals in this game.


I wouldn't entirely agree with that assessment.
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sammyt93 wrote:
I was a little surprised that you didn't wait for the 24 hour period to be over before posting the sale thread for him, it does seem like an oversight I would never have expected you to make considering how good you are at creating deals in this game.


I was too trusty. Heine said multiple times that this was a deal, and he wasn't going to back out from it. He's been in the game for a very long time, so I had no reason to distrust him.

And if I wanted a high fee for Tzortzakis I had to hit while some managers still hade money to spare. So I took the gamble. And it didn't pay off.

On the positive side, Tzortzakis is decreasing and hence me not being able to sell him for more than half than what I got was the realistic scenario for next season. And the money gained from the deal made me have more money for training one of the riders I didn't think I would get money for.

So on the longer perspectives a sale of Tzortzakis was a good thing. Short terms a bad decision. Also had I known I would have sold him, I would have kept Campero and possibly Le Gac aswell.
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It most be a very good feeling having a guy like Spilak who can deliver great result in both GC and hilly classic. Even with selling that fast greek you have Coqaurd who can get you some good results in sprints. TT guys who another only is dreaming about aswell.

Good luck!


It is, but it also gives headaches Smile It's a pain to plan his season as there are so many options to go by, and the limited amount of racedays invite to skip a Grand Tour...

Coppel and Vlatos should do alright again I hope. Coquard is lacking the SPR stat to make a great season, and we don't have the sprint train to make it feaseable to train him too much.
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RIDER DEVELOPMENT

Like most seasons, Festina riders will be undergoing some sort of development through the off season. This season is no different. While last season was a bit of a slow period due to the vast amount of maxing out riders, including the likes of Pierre-Henri Lecuisinier, Bryan Coquard, Tom David, Clement Koretzky, Yuriy Vasyliv, Pite Campero, Yoann Paillot and Laurent Pichon (The two latter being sold), this season is back to development of top talents.

Three riders have improved, and are ready to take another step up:
Pierre-Henri Lecuisinier
Bryan Coquard
Clement Koretzky


Lecuisinier is one of the brightest stars of modern cycling, and the Vuelta 4th is looking increasingly set for another top result this season. Coquard was struggling under the immense pressure of last season, but is one of the fastest riders in the peloton under the right circumstances. This season he takes another step towards joining the top sprinters. Clement Koretzky have enjoyed several seasons with great results, as his ever aggressive style have made him jump into numerous attacks. This season he takes another step, and could be considered an outsider for all hilly stages.

We present to you, the three new leaders:

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Pierre-H. Lecuisinier71827577788079656774657077244.100
Clement Koretzky73718061777071637179737061274.100
Bryan Coquard73586565717484568283606579254.100


There is a great chance of these riders further developping in the future, and each one of them have a very specific idol, that they are looking to reach the level of.
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The Talents - Part 1


Pierre-Henri Lecuisinier, 24 years old (4th Vuelta a EspaƱa)
Having his entire professionel career contracted at the Festina-side, it's hardly difficult to spot where the young french riders sympathy lies. Lecuisinier was loaned away to Alstom-RBC in the Pro Continental Tour immidiately after signing his Pro contract back in 2013, but since then he has been a solid starter at Pro Tour level, slowly increasing his status in the world of cycling.

Pierre-Henri Lecuisinier had a big dream of one day winning the Tour de France when he signed the initial contract, and one way of proving that the talent was there, was winning the Tour de l'Avenir. Twice runner up in the race proves just how much he cares about that race, but also shows that while being a great talent, hard work is needed aswell!

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Hard work and talent, fortunately is a combination that Pierre-Henri Lecuisinier have, and his steady progress have been key to own motivation, the young frenchie recently stated in an interview with CyclingNews. In 2015 he had his first taste of Grand Tour leadership and co-leadership when he managed to take 13th in not only the Vuelta a EspaƱa, but also the Tour de France.

In last season (2016) he took a rather big step up, when entering the Tour de France as a luxury domestique for Simon Spilak. While the captain wasn't able to win the race, Pierre-Henri Lecuisinier took a notable 7th place, beating the previous podium hope Romain Sicard by 2 minutes. 7th place also instantly puts Lecuisinier on the map over best french GC results in the Tour de France.

The current top 5:
1st Christophe Moureau (2007)
3rd John Gadret (2009)
4th Cyril Dessel (2008)
5th Romain Sicard (2015)
7th Pierre-Henri Lecuisinier (2016)

And what really made the pundits go wild, was the fact that he did so as a helper, while also claiming a massive 4th as a leader of the 2016 Vuelta a EspaƱa, which is easily the best French GC result ever.

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This season Pierre-Henri Lecuisinier unfortunately isn't going to be attempting two Grand Tours while it could likely be his last chance to do so. Instead he will be looking to go for one Grand Tour, aswell as 3 smaller GC races. We present to you:

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Pierre-H. Lecuisinier7182757778807965677465707724yo


Career Highligts

4th Vuelta a EspaƱa ('16)
- Winner of U25 competition
7th Tour de France ('16)
- Runner up U25 competition
8th Paris-Nice ('16)
8th Tour of California ('15)
13th Tour de France ('15)

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Obviously a great rider to have. Awesome results last year, so I fear he will once again be able to beat Morton wherever they attend Wink Loving those HQ updates, btw. Always nice to read MG stuff after this post-transfers depression. Keep them coming!
 
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tsmoha wrote:
Obviously a great rider to have. Awesome results last year, so I fear he will once again be able to beat Morton wherever they attend Wink Loving those HQ updates, btw. Always nice to read MG stuff after this post-transfers depression. Keep them coming!


Thanks a lot. and thanks for commenting. It makes it a bit more motivating to keep on writing stuff Pfft

I hope his acceleration will help him achieve better results than Morton, but they will definately keep on bouncing heads for years to come Smile

I really look forward to the day when they are 1-2 on the podium of a GT rather than on the U25 competitions Smile
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Lecuisinier already being eligible for training at 24 y/o is just sick Wink. THis guy has such a long and succesful career ahead of him, never mind the highlights he has already accumulated. Also a big thumbs-up from me on all the articles in the HQ, love the level of detail and analysis as well as regular output.
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Scorchio wrote:
Lecuisinier already being eligible for training at 24 y/o is just sick Wink. THis guy has such a long and succesful career ahead of him, never mind the highlights he has already accumulated. Also a big thumbs-up from me on all the articles in the HQ, love the level of detail and analysis as well as regular output.


Thanks Smile

Yeah he should have a pretty decent career, although there's quite a lot of very talented GC riders. It is going to be atleast another two seasons before he is 85MO. So 26yo. By then Pluchkin, Taaramae, Madrazo, Alarcon, Tenorio, Dombrowski, Phinney, Sicard, Morton, Cattaneo and Herklotz are all 82-85MO riders. So I don't think Lecuisinier is a realistic GT winner before turning 27-28. Doesn't matter though Smile
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The Talents - Part 2


Bryan Coquard, 25 years old (6th GP Moscow)
The young french sprinter, Bryan Coquard signed for Festina in 2013 together with Lecuisinier, who was mentioned previously. The progress of Coquard wasn't quite as smooth as Lecuisinier, however, and he had to make it a two-season stop to the Pro Continental Tour, first at EVIAN-MIAT and later to promoting side Quickstep, who unfortunately disbanded later on.

Like stated above, Bryan Coquard has had a relatively flat learning curve, but is still considered one of the greatest sprinting talents in the world. He showed glimmers of hope last season, when he took 3rd on a stage in Paris-Nice, aswell as 2nd in a stage at the DauphinƩ and Vuelta a EspaƱa. It wasn't until very late in the season that he managed to pull a top result though, when he landed 6th in one-day race GP Moscow.

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The young frenchie is still looking for his first professional win, however and many experts suggest that this should be the season where he finally manages to do so.

Having lost the greek sprinter, Georgos Tzortzakis a lot of pressure lies with the young sprinter, but also a lot of room to attend races that suits him better. This is the first time ever he have a team around him to actually work his cause, and it will be interesting to see if that is the key to unlocking this hidden gem. We present to you, Bryan Coquard!

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Bryan Coquard7358656571748456828360657925yo


Career Highligts

6th GP Moscow ('16)
2nd, stage, Vuelta a EspaƱa ('16)
2nd, stage, Criterium du DauphinƩ Libere ('16)
3rd, stage, Paris-Nice ('16)

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As a team that has had and does still have a big interest in French riders, I hope that Lecuisinier has a great season for you as he was very promising last season.
I also hope that Coquard proves to you what he can do as he is a very promising rider on paper. A rider who I have had my eye on for a long time although I don't ever see him leaving your set up. Let's hope he has a blinder!
 
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Luis Leon Sanchez wrote:
As a team that has had and does still have a big interest in French riders, I hope that Lecuisinier has a great season for you as he was very promising last season.
I also hope that Coquard proves to you what he can do as he is a very promising rider on paper. A rider who I have had my eye on for a long time although I don't ever see him leaving your set up. Let's hope he has a blinder!


Thanks Smile

Coquard isn't likely to leave anytime soon no. He is one of the projects I really want to work. I never had a top top level sprinter before, and he could be one if trained wisely Smile
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The Talents - Part 3


Clement Koretzky, 27 years old (4th Giro di Lombardia)
Despite not being quite as young as Lecuisinier and Coquard we still value Clement Koretzky as one of our talents. He might have been a bit underway, but he is making some remarkable progress nontheless. As a complete opposite of Bryan Coquard, Clement Koretzky has made a very steep leaningcurve, and came back from loan after 2013 at EVIAN-MIAT to deliver wonderful results.

In his first season at Pro Tour level Koretzky managed to take two Pro Tour wins, first a stagewin in Tour of Qatar, and later on also in Volta a Catalunya.

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In the 2015 season he went on to impress as he took his first classic top 10 when he managed 7th in the Badaling International, but it was in the final race of the season he really showed what kind of rider he was becoming. By taking 4th in the Giro di Lombardia he propelled the team into a shocking overall Pro Tour win ahead of favorites Vesuvio - Accumalux.

Last season, Clement Koretzky was once more in the stagewinners role, when he took a strong stagewin in the Tour of California also claiming the KOM jersey aswell as a very surprising 6th overall. He didn't manage to secure any other stagewins, but throughout the season he performed at a very high level, capping 9th at Liege-Bastogne-Liege, 11th at Fleche Wallonne aswell as impressively riding towards GC top 10s in Tirreno-Adriatico and Deutschland Tour. A season that is definately hard to replicate!

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Having went from one strong performance to the next, there's no real stopping this riders. Koretzky takes on the hills with great attacking nature and survive even the toughest mountains without too much losses. His timetrial capabilities are not noteworthy though, but might improve over time aswell. We present to you: Clement Koretzky!

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Career Highligts

4th Giro di Lombardia ('15)
6th Tour of California ('16)
- Stagewin and KOM
7th Tirreno-Adriatico ('16)
9th Liege-Bastogne-Liege ('16)
11th Fleche Wallone ('16)

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The chase for equality - Pre-season


Having won the Pro Tour of 2015 and 2016 we have been looking at marginal gains throughout, and use very specific statistics to get there. One of the meassuring tools we use is the "Chase for equality", which is a simple comparison tool, in which we divide the team into different pools and attempt to level out the needed points scored in previous seasons, to get a similar amount of points - or atleast a supposed needed amount of points.

This season is a bit different. Not only did we win by a rather big margin last season, and thus not having a realistic benchmark from other teams to sum up against, but we also have gotten less racedays for all riders. Some riders are certain to feel this more than others. Our guess is that GC riders will suffer the most, as especially cobblers, but also TT'ers, sprinters and puncheurs have a more spread out calender and uses less racedays to perform, while the GC riders will often have to attend atleast one Grand Tour. So what we have done here is to downgrade the GT setup by 10%, while the other areas are only downgraded by 5%.

We also take a look at the average points needed to secure a PT win, from the past three seasons and use that as out benchmark, rather than looking solely at 2016.

so what do we have?

2nd place teams scored:
2016: Becherovka - Petrof [6.666 pts]
2015: Vesuvio - Accumalux [7.575 pts]
2014: Vesuvio - Accumalux [8.906 pts]

This gives an average of 7.716 pts which sounds reasonably as a similar amount of points would have won in both 2015 and 2016. From here, we have to deduct some points also.

In 2016 Becherovka scored 1.048 points from their top GC riders (Velits and Kƶnig). Those points are reduced to 943 points. The differrence left is 6.666-1.048 = 5.618pts. That is reduced to 5.337 points. As a grand total this is 6.280 pts.

In 2015 Vesuvio scored 1.962 points from their top GC riders (Schleck and Suaza). Those points are reduced to 1.766 points. The difference left is 7.575-1.962 = 5.613pts. That is reduced to 5.332 points. As a grand total this is 7.098 pts.

In 2014 Vesuvio scored 2.798 points from their top GC riders (Schleck and Suaza. *Note, Frank Schleck is not counted towards GC). Those points are reduced to 2.518 points. The difference left is 8.906-2.798 = 6.108 points. That is reduced to 5.803 points. As a grand total this is 8.321 pts.

The new average - 7.233pts


So that is our benchmark, for realistically winning the Pro Tour in 2017! Let's have a look at what our riders did in 2016, and what we would reduce those figures to. This is being used to set up some sort of realistic level for each category.

Name2016 pointsReduced points
Simon Spilak18071626
Jerome Coppel13171251
Georgos Tzortzakis688654
Pierre-Henri Lecuisinier996896
Clement Koretzky820779
Tom David334317
Yuriy Vasyliv214203
Charalampas Kastrantas191181
Markus Eibegger10196
Panagiotis Vlatos357339
Piter Campero195185
Mathieu Bernaudeau7874
Bryan Coquard277263
Olivier Le Gac148141
Jakub Novak229218
Andreas Hofer130124
Nejc Kosic5552
Grzegorz Stepniak7167
Maxime Bouet132125
Pavel Potocki6360
Marco Haller5350
Alexis Gougeard5955


Looking at the total, this would have given us 7.756 pts, which is still well above the benchmark needed. BUT, here's the difficult thing. The team have changed quite drastically, having lost 12 of the above riders, which brings a loss of 1.683pts. This leaves us with a new benchmark (before adding new riders) on 6.073. That is 1.160 points below the new benchmark for winning the Pro Tour of 2017.

We will continue to look at leveling out the ponts of reduced numbers from 2016 into divided groups, in order to see where our strengths and weaknesses lies, and what to possibly expect.

GC RIDERS / PUNCHEURS2016 adjusted
Simon Spilak1626
Pierre-Henri Lecuisinier896
Clement Koretzky779
Yuriy Vasyliv203
Piter Campero185
Olivier Le Gac141
Jakub Novak218
Alexis Gougeard55
TOTAL4.103


We expect Spilak, Lecuisinier and Koretzky to chase their respective figures of last season. Spilak underperformed somewhat in terms of 2015, while Lecuisinier and Koretzky both overperformed - Both having received training should somewhat level out that. Yuriy Vasyliv and Jakub Novak is given a bit more leeway this season in terms of last season, so we expect them to score slightly higher. Maybe a total of 50 points combined. We have then lost Campero, Le Gac and Gougeard which negates to 381 points. Instead we have signed JƩrƩmy Roy, who is likely to score somewhere between 80-100 points. If we use 81, then this category will come out with a minus of 250 points.

SPRINTERS2016 adjusted
Georgos Tzortzakis654
Bryan Coquard263
TOTAL917


A huge loss has to be made up for when looking at Georgos Tzortzakis. He takes out 654 points. Luckily for us, Bryan Coquard is trained and should - from that alone - score more points. He is also free to ride the races that suits him perfectly instead of sharing those with Tzortzakis. Taking all things into consideration we expect Bryan Coquard to score 450 points, leaving us with a minus of 470 points.

COBBLERS2016 adjusted
Tom David317
Nejc Kosic52
TOTAL369


Having a total of 369 points in this category clearly makes us have only small margins to lose, but if we look closer Tom David should be in the same position as he was last season, at around the 15th strongest cobbler. He underperformed in TONE and lost some points he should have gained. We believe there is a good chance that Tom David can score 350 points this seaon. Then having lost Nejc Kosic, but added Pieter Jacobs and Julien Taramarcaz we expect those to score around 200-250 points. If we put that to 250 we get a total of 600 points which is is roughly + 230 points, levelling out the loss of the GC/HI setup.

TT'ERS2016 adjusted
Jerome Coppel1251
Panagiotis Vlatos339
Mathieu Bernaudeau74
Andreas Hofer124
Maxime Bouet125
TOTAL1.913


Last season was a very strong TT year for us, winning a couple of Team timetrials aswell as having both Coppel and Vlatos performing at a high level. We believe that Jerome Coppel have every chance to do well again, given the race calender and the possible outcomes. Vlatos is likely going to struggle to gain a similar amount of points, so we have to deduct him to 300 points. Bernaudeau, Hofer and Bouet are all lost, which leaves us with a minus of 360 points (including the loss of Vlatos points).

This leaves us with the final group

DOMESTIQUES2016 adjusted
Charalampas Kastrantas181
Markus Eibegger96
Grzegorz Stepniak67
Pavel Potocki60
Marco Haller50
TOTAL454


This was a relatively small pool last season compared to this one, so we definately expect to make amends. Kastrantas 181 points is an unrealistic high for him. We have to set him at 150 points at the most. The remaining four riders have all been lost, meaning a total loss of 300 points. Instead we have added Murilo Affonso, Nawuti Liphongyu, Cameron Bayly, James Piccoli, Julian Alaphilippe, Georgios Bouglas, Emerson Santos, Manuel Stocker and two stagiares, Farantakis and Antonijevic. If we adjust numbers and expect 80 points in average from all domestiques except for the stagiares, this gives us 640 points. We expect the stagiares to score 15 points each, which gives us a total of 670 points. Deducting 300 leaves us with a plus of 370 points.

If those points are added together:
GC RIDERS / PUNCHEURS -250
SPRINTERS -470
COBBLERS +230
TTERS -360
DOMESTIQUE +370

This sums up to -480pts. Our benchmark of last season was 7.756pts, and deducting the above leaves us with 7.276pts. The benchmark we were after was 7.233. So after this analyzis we are +43pts, in terms of the benchmark of 2nd place in the overall Pro Tour.

The conclusion is - We are still within a fighting chance to get a 3rd Pro Tour win, if our numbers add up, our riders perform similarly to last season (or slightly worse for some). If another team beats the benchmark we obviously have to adjust ours aswell, but for now, if all is planned well, our riders perform like last season, and we don't have a new highjumper to beat the benchmarks for 2nd place - Then we can win the Pro Tour!

Feel free to leave a comment.
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The season is upon us, and we have discussed finances with our main sponsors in regards with the future season goals. These are our targetted races for the upcoming season:

Tour of Tasmania - Win
Tour de France - Top 3
Team standings - Top 3
Vuelta a EspaƱa - Top 10
Liege-Bastogne-Liege - Top 10


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With this we also present our key riders raceplanning:

Simon Spilak
Classique du Grand-DuchƩ
GP Liechtenstein
Amstel Gold Race
Liege-Bastogne-Liege
Tour de France
Tour of Tasmania
Giro di Lombardia

Pierre-Henri Lecuisinier
Tirreno-Adriatico
Tour of California
Vuelta a EspaƱa
Deutschland Tour

Jerome Coppel
Tour of Qatar
Paris-Nice
Milano San Remo
Chrono des Herbiers
Tour of California
Tour of Norway
Praha - Karlovy Vary - Praha
Tour of Northern Europe
Tour of Tasmania

Clement Koretzky
Badaling International
Paris-Nice
Milano San Remo
Tour of California
Amstel Gold Race
Fleche Wallone
Liege-Bastogne-Liege
Scandinavia Road Race
Tour of Norway
La Megantic Classic
Praha - Karlovy Vary - Praha
Deutschland Tour
Tour of Tasmania
Giro di Lombardia
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Some fairly modest goals for the defending champions, I'd say. All five should be well within reach with your team, that's for sure.

Though, I'm not sure you're allowed to post race planning, as the last message from roturn on the forum was that not all PT planners are in. Though, I might have missed something written on Skype or somewhere else Smile
 
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Feel free to keep this up imo. Wink

I like your rider plannings and think you will come close minimum or repeat the title in PT.

Too impressive your stage race duo with Koretzky also a rider that is loved by AI and Coppel will always be up there in those races planned.
If Tom David steps up as well a bit, your title is guaranteed imo as Coquard as well should do okay.

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Tasmania is set for another thriller. Obviously. Last year's close runner-up for Bobridge was both great and heart-breaking. It's just fair if it goes the other way this time Wink

We won't see Morton vs Lecusinier or Spilak in a GT then. Could be worse Pfft
 
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Some fairly modest goals for the defending champions, I'd say. All five should be well within reach with your team, that's for sure.

Though, I'm not sure you're allowed to post race planning, as the last message from roturn on the forum was that not all PT planners are in. Though, I might have missed something written on Skype or somewhere else Smile


I need money for next season if I'm to train Coquard, Lecuisinier and Koretzky further Smile So yeah, fairly modest. I tried picking a few more difficult, but couldn't get to max without a serious risk of losing 2 goals or more, so decided to go for 20 points but a realistic shot at all 5.
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Feel free to keep this up imo. Wink

I like your rider plannings and think you will come close minimum or repeat the title in PT.

Too impressive your stage race duo with Koretzky also a rider that is loved by AI and Coppel will always be up there in those races planned.
If Tom David steps up as well a bit, your title is guaranteed imo as Coquard as well should do okay.


I hope you are right mate. That said, several of my riders heavily overperformed last season, so can't really expect it to happen again.

Jerome Coppel was fairly easy to plan this season despite the fact that I would have like to have him in a GT. Same goes for Koretzky to be honest, but the pointgains is just too little. Maybe it would be an idea to take a look at Grand Tours to ensure that different kind of riders are capable of riding in those without losing most of the racedays.

Tom David and Bryan Coquard are both very open questionmarks for me.
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