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Break away wins on Champs d'Elysee - Cyanide WTF
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| Lachi |
Posted on 15-07-2012 14:09
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I have no words to describe what I just have seen?
It was not in a career but still.
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| Miner |
Posted on 15-07-2012 14:30
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Very very rare.... I have seen one breakaway win there in the last years.... und that was very close |
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| 9-Ball |
Posted on 15-07-2012 23:02
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Odd timing - I was just testing sprinting behavior with my editing DB and ran the Champs d'Elysee stage 10-15 times in 3D mode. Every stage was a typical group sprint. I had one with a breakaway that wasn't pulled in till the last 5km and one where a GC rider crashed with 20km to go and just made it back to the main field but no weird breakaway wins. All single stages too, not part of a career.
Much like the other thread on mountain stage results, I can only assume it's related to DBs?
It was eleven more than necessary.
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| jseadog1 |
Posted on 16-07-2012 05:08
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never ever happened to me before, even on PCM 2012.
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| Mr_Monk |
Posted on 16-07-2012 05:12
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When I quick sim it the breakaway wins most of the time. |
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| jseadog1 |
Posted on 16-07-2012 05:14
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Mr_Monk wrote:
When I quick sim it the breakaway wins most of the time.
I have never tried that. I think I will tomorrow before the next patch comes out so I can get a good laugh 
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| Etherman |
Posted on 22-07-2012 10:53
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Vino in 2005 did it if I remember right. |
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| emre99 |
Posted on 23-07-2012 09:20
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Mr_Monk wrote:
When I quick sim it the breakaway wins most of the time.
yeah!
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| aidanvn13 |
Posted on 23-07-2012 09:43
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Ja, I know for a fact Vino has won before.
I was on the Champs Elysees yesterday! Awesome experience! Jens is legend!! |
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| SweatyViking |
Posted on 23-07-2012 09:45
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Breakaways should succeed more often on mountain stages, as it is now they lose to much time uphill, in the tour only one of the mountain stages ended with a (not so) favorite winning.. |
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| Flair |
Posted on 02-08-2012 12:32
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Yeah, I do find it quite disburbing. It always ends up as a pack sprint as inevitably the peleton chases the pack down during the circuits, but everytime i've run it there have been breakaways from the start and a fairly hiigh pace through. Rather then the slowly swilling champage and taking photos etc. |
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| Mordekaiser |
Posted on 02-08-2012 14:17
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I had a breakaway win n champs this year. I had no greipel left (I am Lotto Belisol) and was annoyed with tour so I used quick simulation. After it says I did not contributre so it was a break away win. But moreover it was a 1 man break and wom by 8min 22secs |
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| Flair |
Posted on 02-08-2012 17:41
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Incidently, my pprobllem here isnt that a breakaway can win. I've neever seen a breakaway succeed, it the fact the stage is clearly coded like any other stage and is raced as a true stage. Wheras as everyone knows, theres an uunwritten rule that you dont attack on that stage until the ciircuits. I know there have 3 or 4 breakaways in the history of the stage but thety werent launched. At the sttart.
However a solo breakaway suceeding seems utterly hillarious, even if you made no attempt to chase down yourself. |
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| jsh312mufc |
Posted on 02-08-2012 17:45
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i always have a man in the break on the champs, and i've won it from the break quite a few times
There's a difference between an all-rounder and someone who is just equally bad at everything
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| cio93 |
Posted on 02-08-2012 17:45
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Flair wrote:
Yeah, I do find it quite disburbing. It always ends up as a pack sprint as inevitably the peleton chases the pack down during the circuits, but everytime i've run it there have been breakaways from the start and a fairly hiigh pace through. Rather then the slowly swilling champage and taking photos etc.
Flair wrote:
Incidently, my pprobllem here isnt that a breakaway can win. I've neever seen a breakaway succeed, it the fact the stage is clearly coded like any other stage and is raced as a true stage. Wheras as everyone knows, theres an uunwritten rule that you dont attack on that stage until the ciircuits. I know there have 3 or 4 breakaways in the history of the stage but thety werent launched. At the sttart.
However a solo breakaway suceeding seems utterly hillarious, even if you made no attempt to chase down yourself.
I doubt that it's possible to "code" the stage so it isn't raced like any other flat stage.
Edited by cio93 on 02-08-2012 17:48
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| lluuiiggii |
Posted on 02-08-2012 21:52
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cio93 wrote:
Flair wrote:
Incidently, my pprobllem here isnt that a breakaway can win. I've neever seen a breakaway succeed, it the fact the stage is clearly coded like any other stage and is raced as a true stage. Wheras as everyone knows, theres an uunwritten rule that you dont attack on that stage until the ciircuits. I know there have 3 or 4 breakaways in the history of the stage but thety werent launched. At the sttart.
However a solo breakaway suceeding seems utterly hillarious, even if you made no attempt to chase down yourself.
I doubt that it's possible to "code" the stage so it isn't raced like any other flat stage.
If I had to guess, without having any programming knowledge at all, I'd say it's possible (Lachi perhaps can clarify this for us ). But to expect Cyanide to do that? Highly unlikely 
Another thing might be that, while it may be simple (if possible) to set the AI to not attack until Champs-Elysee, the PCM buyer who doesn't follow cycling that regularly and only saw some highlights or a couple of stages from the Tour and then bought the game, will be "lolz wut" when seeing that nobody attacks like all other stages. And he'll probably think it's a big bug in the game 
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| fred947a |
Posted on 10-09-2012 18:36
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I've also tried to do a quick simulation where a breakaway also came out on top with 2 mins |
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| T-Photon |
Posted on 12-09-2012 18:41
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cio93 wrote:
I doubt that it's possible to "code" the stage so it isn't raced like any other flat stage.
That is not true at all, you can easily throw a condition in the game to react on events like stage number = 21, then make it more difficult for breakaways
same with the Olympic Games, people asume it's impossible because it only occurs every fourth year but fact is that it easily could be implemented in PCM |
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 12-09-2012 18:51
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Etherman wrote:
Vino in 2005 did it if I remember right.
And what an epic win that was!
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