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Tour de France, Stage 13 - Saturday, July 14th Saint-Paul-Trois-Châteaux - Le Cap d’Agde
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| dev4ever |
Posted on 14-07-2012 16:12
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Wiggins! Turns out to be much cooler than i though he would be! |
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 14-07-2012 16:12
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SportingNonsense wrote:
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Peraud and Sagan could be at the mix there in MTB race, there is long break between the road and cross country.
Has Sagan ridden a MTB race at all recently?
Some training only probably, he is even not sure if he will start the race, it is only an option. Maybe he would suck there, being long off terrain. Peraud is another story, he will do good i think.
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 14-07-2012 16:12
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Teddy The Creator wrote:
doddy13 wrote:
Teddy The Creator wrote:
Riders are only allowed one event, no?
Nope, you can enter as many events as you please.
That's strange, I could have sworn I read somewhere form Alakagom is not mistken, that Jack Bobridge couldn't ride the Olympics TT because he was riding track, and was not allowed two events. 
The point with Bobridge is more that the schedule makes it pretty much impossible. The TT is on August 1st. First round of the Team Pursuit is August 2nd.
But we do have an Olympic thread for this

  
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| doddy13 |
Posted on 14-07-2012 16:18
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Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Peraud and Sagan could be at the mix there in MTB race, there is long break between the road and cross country.
Couldn't actually be a bigger one, the first and last day
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| Biathlon |
Posted on 14-07-2012 16:23
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Missed the stage but watching the highlights now. This 3rd cat looked more exciting than all the other climbs the last 3 days.
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 14-07-2012 17:06
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kumazan wrote:
Ever seen the future TdF winner leading his team's sprinter out? 
Ullrich/Zabel 1997.
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| CB |
Posted on 14-07-2012 17:08
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Riis/Zabel - 1996  |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 14-07-2012 18:47
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Valverde lost tons of time. He should just quit and prepare for the Vuelta.
Also, LOL Cobo. At least Valverde has the excuse of crashes and coming back from suspension. But Cobo? When Costa is outperforming you, you suck as a team leader.
EDIT: Also, cool stage judging from the highlights
Funny that Hagen went, then Greipel went, then Sagan went....and even when Sagan went it turned out to be too soon and he faded!
Guess the finish was harder than expected. Or the last climb sapped the legs too much.
Edited by issoisso on 14-07-2012 18:51
If you want to say 'the things science doesn't understand...that's god's hand', then - because the list of things science can't explain and that religious people attribute to god is constantly getting smaller and smaller - you've just defined your own god as a continuously receding pocket of ignorance.
That's about the most offensive thing you could possibly say about a religion. Yet people only ever claim it about their own religion. |
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| Riis123 |
Posted on 14-07-2012 18:51
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Was what he before the stage? 18th at 20'40 down? Naah, doesn't matter for Valverde. Tomorrow suits him perfectly in a break. |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 14-07-2012 18:54
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Riis123 wrote:
Was what he before the stage? 18th at 20'40 down? Naah, doesn't matter for Valverde. Tomorrow suits him perfectly in a break.
Pretty much.
But LLS will win the stage
If you want to say 'the things science doesn't understand...that's god's hand', then - because the list of things science can't explain and that religious people attribute to god is constantly getting smaller and smaller - you've just defined your own god as a continuously receding pocket of ignorance.
That's about the most offensive thing you could possibly say about a religion. Yet people only ever claim it about their own religion. |
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| ruben |
Posted on 14-07-2012 19:01
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Cobo was doing better than Costa and Valverde in the last mountainstage tho....
Almost 90% of cobo's time lost has been in the first week
La Toussiere
17. ESPCOBO ACEBO Juan Jose 162 MOVISTAR TEAM 04h 47' 47'' + 03' 53''
22. ESPVALVERDE Alejandro 161 MOVISTAR TEAM 04h 52' 15'' + 08' 21''
32. PORCOSTA Rui Alberto 163 MOVISTAR TEAM 04h 58' 07'' + 14' 13''
So basically, Cobo is climbing much much better than Valverde and Costa. But I bet Isso only watched gc standings
Edited by ruben on 14-07-2012 19:03
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| issoisso |
Posted on 14-07-2012 19:58
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ruben wrote:
Cobo was doing better than Costa and Valverde in the last mountainstage tho....
Almost 90% of cobo's time lost has been in the first week
La Toussiere
17. ESPCOBO ACEBO Juan Jose 162 MOVISTAR TEAM 04h 47' 47'' + 03' 53''
22. ESPVALVERDE Alejandro 161 MOVISTAR TEAM 04h 52' 15'' + 08' 21''
32. PORCOSTA Rui Alberto 163 MOVISTAR TEAM 04h 58' 07'' + 14' 13''
So basically, Cobo is climbing much much better than Valverde and Costa. But I bet Isso only watched gc standings 
Too bad I never mentioned anything about mountains. Also, since you mention mountain stages, he lost time to both Valverde and Costa in 2 of 3 stages.
That's bad trolling even for you 
EDIT: And it's "La Toussuire"
Edited by issoisso on 14-07-2012 20:04
If you want to say 'the things science doesn't understand...that's god's hand', then - because the list of things science can't explain and that religious people attribute to god is constantly getting smaller and smaller - you've just defined your own god as a continuously receding pocket of ignorance.
That's about the most offensive thing you could possibly say about a religion. Yet people only ever claim it about their own religion. |
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 14-07-2012 21:55
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Avin Wargunnson wrote:
So i assume the green jersey will not be won in the office right? If Peter will make it to Paris, the green will be well deserved and not won because of Goss point deducation yesterday. 
I would like to see Sagan motivation when we take he's chanches away to take green in Paris.
I will just ignore your fanboy blur now one
isso: Froomebot has been reset and a new BIOS installed
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| Goldberger |
Posted on 14-07-2012 23:19
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issoisso wrote:
Also, LOL Cobo. At least Valverde has the excuse of crashes and coming back from suspension. But Cobo? When Costa is outperforming you, you suck as a team leader.
Well, to bad for you issoisso, but Cobo isn`t, and has never been the designated leader for Movistar in the Tour De France. He is building to be in top shape for the Vuelta, and his form is actually coming along nicely as we saw in the stage to "La Toussuire" as ruben brilliantly said.
Or am I just trolling now? |
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| CLURPR |
Posted on 15-07-2012 00:50
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Just watched the highlights, that was an impressive leadout by Wiggins! |
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| Schleck96 |
Posted on 15-07-2012 01:02
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CLURPR wrote:
Just watched the highlights, that was an impressive leadout by Wiggins!
He is the new signing to Greipel's sprint train  |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 15-07-2012 09:18
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Goldberger wrote:
issoisso wrote:
Also, LOL Cobo. At least Valverde has the excuse of crashes and coming back from suspension. But Cobo? When Costa is outperforming you, you suck as a team leader.
Well, to bad for you issoisso, but Cobo isn`t, and has never been the designated leader for Movistar in the Tour De France. He is building to be in top shape for the Vuelta, and his form is actually coming along nicely as we saw in the stage to "La Toussuire" as ruben brilliantly said.
Or am I just trolling now?
Yawn
"Mi objetivo es el Tour de Francia", Cobo said at the team presentation.
Here's 7 different sources that corroborate it in case you have any doubts
http://cecilioben...-team.html
http://www.elmund...82243.html
http://ciclismo.l...de-vuelta/
http://ciclismo.l...l/page/86/
http://ciclismo.l...012/01/04/
http://deportes.t...0RCRD.html
http://luisaviles...lverde.php
Here's a video of Eusebio Unzué talking about them being joint leaders for the Tour
http://www.youtub...CSQeHFN8hk
Also, if you saw the media scrum on the day of the teams presentation, Cobo said his goal was a top ten.
If you want to say 'the things science doesn't understand...that's god's hand', then - because the list of things science can't explain and that religious people attribute to god is constantly getting smaller and smaller - you've just defined your own god as a continuously receding pocket of ignorance.
That's about the most offensive thing you could possibly say about a religion. Yet people only ever claim it about their own religion. |
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| Goldberger |
Posted on 15-07-2012 10:21
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Well obviously, things have changed since January! I have read several interviews with Cobo where he states the Vuelta is his top goal.
I am also quite sure he knows he can`t go 100% in the tour and expect to beat Contador in the Vuelta(not that he can anyway ) |
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| kumazan |
Posted on 15-07-2012 10:34
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Aquarius wrote:
kumazan wrote:
Ever seen the future TdF winner leading his team's sprinter out? 
Ullrich/Zabel 1997. 
CB wrote:
Riis/Zabel - 1996 
Interesting comparison with Telekom 96/97, of all teams, isn't it?
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