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TheManxMissile
just to try and free up the stage specific thread
please argue how much you hate/think they dope

ill start

Sky is clean, Froome and Wiggins have previous excellent TT results, so this result is not a sign of doping, but of progression.
Edited by TheManxMissile on 06-06-2013 13:43
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FreitasPCM
Quite a 1.0 evolution from Froome though.
 
fcancellara
Sky clean, except for Froome.

As I already said in the stage thread:
fcancellara wrote:
Wiggins, okay.

But Froome?

He never really did anything good until last years Vuelta, where he suddenly finished second, and now he is crushing the time of the strongest time triallist in the world?

I have a feeling Sky, or at least Froome, is not clean...

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Smal
When did Geert Leinders actually join Sky?
 
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SKY = Hard work = Hard Training = Results Smile
 
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Alakagom
Smal wrote:
When did Geert Leinders actually join Sky?


Almost every big team has someone involved that doped or had involvement in it at some point at their staff Wink

RSNT, BMC, OPQS....

Also, if riders can redeem themselves after their doping bans. Why not the staff as well ?
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TheManxMissile
fcancellara wrote:
Sky clean, except for Froome.

As I already said in the stage thread:
fcancellara wrote:
Wiggins, okay.

But Froome?

He never really did anything good until last years Vuelta, where he suddenly finished second, and now he is crushing the time of the strongest time triallist in the world?

I have a feeling Sky, or at least Froome, is not clean...


He did miss 2 years to illness
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Eden95
Wiggins is fine, but Froome is dodgy. And also he looks like some kind of weird stick insect or spider or something. When I see him riding I feel like slapping him with a fish.
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lluuiiggii
TheManxMissile wrote:
Sky is clean, Froome and Wiggins have previous excellent TT results, so this result is not a sign of doping, but of progression.

Wrong thread
http://pcmdaily.c...rowstart=0

Spoiler
Pfft

 
TheManxMissile
Eden95 wrote:
Wiggins is fine, but Froome is dodgy. And also he looks like some kind of weird stick insect or spider or something. When I see him riding I feel like slapping him with a fish.


That bit i agree with, id love to slap someone with a fish
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Smal
Alakagom wrote:
Smal wrote:
When did Geert Leinders actually join Sky?


Almost every big team has someone involved that doped at their staff Wink

RSNT, BMC, OPQS....

Also, if riders can redeem themselves after their doping bans. Why not the staff as well ?


Yes, I know about all that and I agree, I just want to know when he joined Sky? If it was this year then it definitely doesn't explain Froome's rise.
 
gotlandrules
Yes Froome missed 2 years with illness, that should make him 2 years behind with real training? not make him a world beater when hes suddenly healthy.. how can you brits be so naive and not even suspect something might be wrong? i hope they are not doped, i truly do. But to say this is not suspicious is fucking retarded.
 
baseballlover312
Froome was 11 minutes out of the 08 TT.

He was out for two years with illness. Comes back to astound in the Vuelta before crushing in the tour.

Sound familiar? It's almost the exact same story. Why is it so hard for people to read when it comes to Froome.
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jack888
Well, if you can assume anything without evidence here, maybe it's that at least Evans seems clean. And it's not unexpected for Wiggins to convincingly beat him in a TT.

About Froome? Do people really think he'll fail the drug test? If he was gonna dope, wouldn't he do it in the months leading up to the tour anyway?
 
jph27
Maybe Sky are doping, but are you naive enough to think they are the only ones? And let's face it, they aren't stupid enough to get caught here.
 
felix_29
baseballlover312 wrote:
Froome was 11 minutes out of the 08 TT.

He was out for two years with illness. Comes back to astound in the Vuelta before crushing in the tour.

Sound familiar? It's almost the exact same story. Why is it so hard for people to read when it comes to Froome.


Do you think Armstrong and Froome were/are doping or not? Your signature is confusing.
 
TheManxMissile
gotlandrules wrote:
Yes Froome missed 2 years with illness, that should make him 2 years behind with real training? not make him a world beater when hes suddenly healthy.. how can you brits be so naive and not even suspect something might be wrong? i hope they are not doped, i truly do. But to say this is not suspicious is fucking retarded.


Dont like the word suspicious. Its surprising, but not out of the blue.
It suspicious when a test gets missed or the result not reported.

Wiggins put 1'30ish into Evans in the Dauphine. Sky said he had more to give, and put 1'43ish into Evans today. Not evidence for not doping, but makes it less surprising (wiggins at least)
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Coop
sutty68 wrote:
SKY = Hard work = Hard Training = Results Smile



Pretty sure Armstrong and Postal/Disco used that same story. What's your feelings on them?
 
baseballlover312
TheManxMissile wrote:
just to try and free up the stage specific thread
please argue how much you hate/think they dope

ill start

Sky is clean, Froome and Wiggins have previous excellent TT results, so this result is not a sign of doping, but of progression.

What was Froome's "excellent TT result". I know riders obviously progress. But you don't go from almost getting eliminated in a time trial to dominating Cancellara.
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madzdaman
baseballlover312 wrote:
Froome was 11 minutes out of the 08 TT.

He was out for two years with illness. Comes back to astound in the Vuelta before crushing in the tour.

Sound familiar? It's almost the exact same story. Why is it so hard for people to read when it comes to Froome.

67 Tejay Van Garderen (USA) HTC-Highroad 0:05:11----2011 tdf tt

i know its not the same margin but...its still a significant gain
Edited by madzdaman on 09-07-2012 16:37
 
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