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Tour de France, Stage 9 - Monday, July 9th Arc-et-Senans - Besançon
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doddy13 wrote:
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ahh yes. He's doing abnormally well when discount all evidence that say it could be natural.


Tbh, he hasn't really delivered any noticeable results in TT's before last year. Atleast not on this level.


It's called a breakthrough. Everyone emerges at some point.

:lol: breakthrough - from zero to hero this is no breakthrough this is a rocket launch
 
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Great ride Froome - does it give Sky a leadership question or will Wiggin's take it?


This isn't important as the team withdraws on Wednesday.
 
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CLURPR wrote:
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doddy13 wrote:
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This is insane!
I still believe sky is clean though, because there is no evidence to the contrary (riding well does not equal evidence).

Beating Cancellara by almost 30 seconds at first time check after never having a good result before the Vuelta = evidence


ahh yes. He's doing abnormally well when discount all evidence that say it could be natural.


Tejay Van Garderen is a TT specialist. Froome is not. He is just doped. He has never shown any talent even after being professional for so many years.

Enter's Sky and suddenly he is the best in the world at TT's. Disgusting. This team will do anything to win the tour. I will be so full of joy when they get banned.


Froome has been out of action for 2 years with the illness he has had, so he hasn't had many attempts to show anything.


I agree. 2 years away from competition due to illness creates Tour de France winners. Just look at Armstrong Pfft
 
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Wiggins 85 tt
Froome 84 tt?
 
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Likkivi wrote:
CLURPR wrote:
Likkivi wrote:
doddy13 wrote:
baseballlover312 wrote:
TheManxMissile wrote:
This is insane!
I still believe sky is clean though, because there is no evidence to the contrary (riding well does not equal evidence).

Beating Cancellara by almost 30 seconds at first time check after never having a good result before the Vuelta = evidence


ahh yes. He's doing abnormally well when discount all evidence that say it could be natural.



Tejay Van Garderen is a TT specialist. Froome is not. He is just doped. He has never shown any talent even after being professional for so many years.

Enter's Sky and suddenly he is the best in the world at TT's. Disgusting. This team will do anything to win the tour. I will be so full of joy when they get banned.


Froome has been out of action for 2 years with the illness he has had, so he hasn't had many attempts to show anything.


Evidence. This must have been the time he tried out various doping products. Their team docter is well known for implications in doping too. Luckily there is a rest day tomorrow so the test results will be ready before the next stage. So we won't see him anymore in this tour thankfully.


Its not evidence. He has the illness called Bilharzia which is tropical parasitical disease, which can damage organs. Bilharzia is only second to malaria in its devasting effects.
 
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Alakagom wrote:
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Froome crushing Cance by 22 seconds, LOL


It was a very tough course though. Not suited to Cance at all Wink Millar said it's not true specialists, and favours climbers than flat riders. Still... Wink

I understand how last years autumn Froome did today, i just still dont get what he did at the Vuelta Pfft
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Wiggins is destroying the field. He cant be a human.
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gotlandrules wrote:
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if sky are doped, then what about van garderen? he was nearly as fast as the four time world champion and 1m 10seconds ahead of the current world champion.doped much? this is before we talk about velits, kloden and chavanel....if we're gonna call a surprise doping then call EVERY good/great/unexpected result doping


Only difference is that they are not crushing everyone else uphill and that they actually have results in TTs over many years. Otherwise ur spot on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(and i'm not saying they don't dope, just that your argument was really retarded.)


and im not saying sky dont either, but froome got 36th in the 2009 giro with no team and wiggins is a world champion, so its not like they've come out of nowhere...im just trying to state that everyone automatically thinks they are doping just because they are beating everyone.it doesnt mean we cant be shocked, just not jumping to conclusions without proof
 
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Likkivi wrote:
CLURPR wrote:
Likkivi wrote:
doddy13 wrote:
baseballlover312 wrote:
TheManxMissile wrote:
This is insane!
I still believe sky is clean though, because there is no evidence to the contrary (riding well does not equal evidence).

Beating Cancellara by almost 30 seconds at first time check after never having a good result before the Vuelta = evidence


ahh yes. He's doing abnormally well when discount all evidence that say it could be natural.


Tejay Van Garderen is a TT specialist. Froome is not. He is just doped. He has never shown any talent even after being professional for so many years.

Enter's Sky and suddenly he is the best in the world at TT's. Disgusting. This team will do anything to win the tour. I will be so full of joy when they get banned.


Froome has been out of action for 2 years with the illness he has had, so he hasn't had many attempts to show anything.


Evidence. This must have been the time he tried out various doping products. Their team docter is well known for implications in doping too. Luckily there is a rest day tomorrow so the test results will be ready before the next stage. So we won't see him anymore in this tour thankfully.


That is just plain disrespectful. Bilharzia is a horrible disease.
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Hopefully this result won't make the Tour boring, they have to attack now... but with Sky being so strong, I don't know how this will end.
 
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Very good ride from Zubeldia. Hopefully he stays on this level the whole Tour, since I really like him. Smile
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TheManxMissile wrote:
Likkivi wrote:
CLURPR wrote:
Likkivi wrote:
doddy13 wrote:
baseballlover312 wrote:
TheManxMissile wrote:
This is insane!
I still believe sky is clean though, because there is no evidence to the contrary (riding well does not equal evidence).

Beating Cancellara by almost 30 seconds at first time check after never having a good result before the Vuelta = evidence


ahh yes. He's doing abnormally well when discount all evidence that say it could be natural.


Tejay Van Garderen is a TT specialist. Froome is not. He is just doped. He has never shown any talent even after being professional for so many years.

Enter's Sky and suddenly he is the best in the world at TT's. Disgusting. This team will do anything to win the tour. I will be so full of joy when they get banned.


Froome has been out of action for 2 years with the illness he has had, so he hasn't had many attempts to show anything.


Evidence. This must have been the time he tried out various doping products. Their team docter is well known for implications in doping too. Luckily there is a rest day tomorrow so the test results will be ready before the next stage. So we won't see him anymore in this tour thankfully.


That is just plain disrespectful. Bilharzia is a horrible disease.


Does not justify cheating in professional sports afterwards.
 
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Pellizotti2 wrote:
Very good ride from Zubeldia. Hopefully he stays on this level the whole Tour, since I really like him. Smile


Before the start of the Tour, some thought Galloppin would be a better leader than him, though. Just like last year. Pfft
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Boom zoom Froome?
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Pellizotti2 wrote:
Very good ride from Zubeldia. Hopefully he stays on this level the whole Tour, since I really like him. Smile

+ 1
I also cheer for him...
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marble wrote:
Hopefully this result won't make the Tour boring, they have to attack now... but with Sky being so strong, I don't know how this will end.


It will have to be like yesterday that worked Sky over pretty good with Rogers and Porte cooked and Froome looking like he was struggling by the end.
 
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CLURPR wrote:
Likkivi wrote:
CLURPR wrote:
Likkivi wrote:
doddy13 wrote:
baseballlover312 wrote:
TheManxMissile wrote:
This is insane!
I still believe sky is clean though, because there is no evidence to the contrary (riding well does not equal evidence).

Beating Cancellara by almost 30 seconds at first time check after never having a good result before the Vuelta = evidence


ahh yes. He's doing abnormally well when discount all evidence that say it could be natural.



Tejay Van Garderen is a TT specialist. Froome is not. He is just doped. He has never shown any talent even after being professional for so many years.

Enter's Sky and suddenly he is the best in the world at TT's. Disgusting. This team will do anything to win the tour. I will be so full of joy when they get banned.


Froome has been out of action for 2 years with the illness he has had, so he hasn't had many attempts to show anything.


Evidence. This must have been the time he tried out various doping products. Their team docter is well known for implications in doping too. Luckily there is a rest day tomorrow so the test results will be ready before the next stage. So we won't see him anymore in this tour thankfully.


Its not evidence. He has the illness called Bilharzia which is tropical parasitical disease, which can damage organs. Bilharzia is only second to malaria in its devasting effects.

And this is different than Lance having cancer and then being great? After breaking through with 4th at the Vuelta and winning the tour? How?
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Likkivi wrote:
TheManxMissile wrote:
Likkivi wrote:
CLURPR wrote:
Likkivi wrote:
doddy13 wrote:
baseballlover312 wrote:
TheManxMissile wrote:
This is insane!
I still believe sky is clean though, because there is no evidence to the contrary (riding well does not equal evidence).

Beating Cancellara by almost 30 seconds at first time check after never having a good result before the Vuelta = evidence


ahh yes. He's doing abnormally well when discount all evidence that say it could be natural.


Tejay Van Garderen is a TT specialist. Froome is not. He is just doped. He has never shown any talent even after being professional for so many years.

Enter's Sky and suddenly he is the best in the world at TT's. Disgusting. This team will do anything to win the tour. I will be so full of joy when they get banned.


Froome has been out of action for 2 years with the illness he has had, so he hasn't had many attempts to show anything.


Evidence. This must have been the time he tried out various doping products. Their team docter is well known for implications in doping too. Luckily there is a rest day tomorrow so the test results will be ready before the next stage. So we won't see him anymore in this tour thankfully.


That is just plain disrespectful. Bilharzia is a horrible disease.


Does not justify cheating in professional sports afterwards.


And he's not
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Pellizotti2 wrote:
Very good ride from Zubeldia. Hopefully he stays on this level the whole Tour, since I really like him. Smile

Yes, really good result for him today. Almost better TT than his best TT of his life in Le Tour '03.
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marble wrote:
Hopefully this result won't make the Tour boring, they have to attack now... but with Sky being so strong, I don't know how this will end.

Any time gains will be irrelevant thanks to the second TT where Wiggins at least will manage to gain plenty more time.
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